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SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 12:27 AM
Hey everyone, so I've gone and got my first ever spider... A female sub adult Hyllus diardii... Up untill this point my girlfriend has flatly refused to have a spider in the house, but I seem to have worn her resolve down...

We picked this one up at the Doncaster IHS breeders meeting, and Rachel even paid for the spider and carried her around while we were there.... I was absolutely shocked!

Well here she is, I've named her "Crackerjack" as she moves like she's on crack, super fast and erratic... When she jumps it's like she teleports as its so fast. :D

Ps. My phone will only post on epic at a time, sorry!

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 12:29 AM
Another pic of crackerjack....

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 12:29 AM
Awesome man!

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 12:32 AM
Thanks! Honestly I've become fascinated by her! Apparently you have to build trust with them, quite smart too as their intelligence level has been compared to that of a small rodent.

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 12:40 AM
That's insane, I had no idea invertebrates possessed that high a level of intelligence

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 12:44 AM
That's insane, I had no idea invertebrates possessed that high a level of intelligence

Neither did I, but now I'm hooked on them after only 3 days Hahahah... It's amazing to watch her while she watches you and tries to figure you out...

If you sit with your hand next to the enclosure she will "ping" to your hand and walk around before "ping" n she leaps back home..

Every time she jumps I make a "ping" sound in my head, amuses me :D

dannybgoode
09-22-16, 12:47 AM
You already know I like this spider Jamie! I showed it to Becky and even she said it was OK for an arachnid-quickly followed by 'you're still not having one though!'.

Great thing about a spider though is they're much easier to hide than a snake or lizard and I already have a ton of boxes she won't go in as they hold the crickets etc ;).

Are there any decent care sheets for this species?

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 12:48 AM
I see jumping spiders all over the place where I live (massachusetts) and I've been fascinated with them my whole life, they almost seem to teleport with how fast they move

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 12:50 AM
I'm just now realizing you guys are from across the pond haha, I've heard good things about pet laws over there, is that true?

dave himself
09-22-16, 01:04 AM
We have zebra jumpers out in our back garden in the summer and I thought they were amazing but that wee thing is outrageous. I have to say mate I'm a bit green here at ya :D

dannybgoode
09-22-16, 01:32 AM
I'm just now realizing you guys are from across the pond haha, I've heard good things about pet laws over there, is that true?

Depends on your definition of good! Yes you can own any non-venomous reptile you choose but this does mean that as well as some very good and capable keepers owning reptiles their ease of availability means there's an awful lot of complete idiots owning entirely inappropriate animals in entirely inappropriate conditions.

Happy to answer any other questions you may have on our laws!

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 02:43 AM
That's awesome! I live in Massachusetts, one of, IMO, the strictest states here in the U.S. Taxes up the wazoo and if I want to own certain animals, it's $100 USD and they can randomly check you're setup. Sucks ��

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 03:09 AM
You already know I like this spider Jamie! I showed it to Becky and even she said it was OK for an arachnid-quickly followed by 'you're still not having one though!'.

Great thing about a spider though is they're much easier to hide than a snake or lizard and I already have a ton of boxes she won't go in as they hold the crickets etc ;).

Are there any decent care sheets for this species?

I havnt found any decent ones yet, all my info has come from talking to other keepers so far. :)

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 03:11 AM
That's awesome! I live in Massachusetts, one of, IMO, the strictest states here in the U.S. Taxes up the wazoo and if I want to own certain animals, it's $100 USD and they can randomly check you're setup. Sucks ��

I wouldn't have a problem with paying for a "licence" or a charge to own certain species, nor would I have an issue with my setups being inspected.

Personally I'd prefer this, as the bad keepers and impulse buyers would be put off.

dannybgoode
09-22-16, 05:17 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with paying for a "licence" or a charge to own certain species, nor would I have an issue with my setups being inspected.

Personally I'd prefer this, as the bad keepers and impulse buyers would be put off.

100% agree and indeed speaking to the better breeders and reptile shops they'd actually like this as they'd be able to charge a more appropriate price for an animal.

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 06:09 AM
100% agree and indeed speaking to the better breeders and reptile shops they'd actually like this as they'd be able to charge a more appropriate price for an animal.

Yeah but that's because they're looking at it with profit in mind rather than the actual health of the hobby as a whole....

I think the prices on some species are too low, however you find the people who complain about "market saturation" are morph breeders who are gutted when the price drops for a certain morph... This attitude is what pushes the price of so called "normals" down to worthless.

BobBarley
09-22-16, 08:00 AM
Awesome little jumper! Wish they were in the states.

eminart
09-22-16, 08:13 AM
Awesome little jumper! Wish they were in the states.


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We have many, many species of jumping spider in the US. They've always been my favorites, as far as native spiders, where I live. I used to watch them hunt on our porches when I was growing up.

macandchz
09-22-16, 08:24 AM
i'm not a fan of spiders, but yours is kind of cute! it looks like an old man.

dannybgoode
09-22-16, 10:25 AM
Yeah but that's because they're looking at it with profit in mind rather than the actual health of the hobby as a whole....

I think the prices on some species are too low, however you find the people who complain about "market saturation" are morph breeders who are gutted when the price drops for a certain morph... This attitude is what pushes the price of so called "normals" down to worthless.

Possibly-depends on the breeder / store but yes agree this will be the case sometimes. To counter though profitability wouldn't necessarily go up because you would in all likelihood have fewer customers but at least they'd be serious.

Completely agree re the price of normals (although for someone like me this is a good thing!).

Back to the spider-how big will she get and what's her housing requirements. I need to look into something like that :)

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 11:01 AM
Possibly-depends on the breeder / store but yes agree this will be the case sometimes. To counter though profitability wouldn't necessarily go up because you would in all likelihood have fewer customers but at least they'd be serious.

Completely agree re the price of normals (although for someone like me this is a good thing!).

Back to the spider-how big will she get and what's her housing requirements. I need to look into something like that :)

Almost every breeder is in it for the money mate, if not they'd give half of what they breed away like myself....

Crackerjack will get about 1 inch legspan, which is big for a jumping spider... Housing wise, I'm using the glass enclosures that I use for my mantis, so about 6"x6" floor space and about a foot in height... Very active little things, so she may get a bigger one if she needs it.

ThirteenRavens
09-22-16, 12:08 PM
I love jumpers!!! I had several in and around my house in Idaho...I have pics somewhere of some really neat marked ones, and had a couple that were massive!

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 01:34 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with paying for a "licence" or a charge to own certain species, nor would I have an issue with my setups being inspected.

Personally I'd prefer this, as the bad keepers and impulse buyers would be put off.

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from

SnakeyJay
09-22-16, 01:42 PM
Just changed her to a bigger version of the glass enclosure she was in... This one is identical but opens at the front... That way I shouldn't destroy her next when I need to open it. She's been moved from the right side enclosure to the left one! :)

sharthun
09-22-16, 06:36 PM
Very cool addition! Jumping spiders are my favorite!

Magdalen
09-22-16, 09:28 PM
Ok that is one cute spider

UserNameIsValid
09-22-16, 10:53 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with paying for a "licence" or a charge to own certain species, nor would I have an issue with my setups being inspected.

Personally I'd prefer this, as the bad keepers and impulse buyers would be put off.

I can definitely see where you're coming, just a little freedom-envy on my part

SnakeyJay
09-23-16, 12:06 AM
I can definitely see where you're coming, just a little freedom-envy on my part

I get what you mean mate! :)

dannybgoode
09-23-16, 12:13 AM
Does she have a name yet? If not you should call her Charlotte after the clever spider in Charlotte's Web.

SnakeyJay
09-23-16, 06:35 AM
Does she have a name yet? If not you should call her Charlotte after the clever spider in Charlotte's Web.

She's called "Crackerjack" mate.... Due to her moving fast like she's on crack 😂

dannybgoode
09-23-16, 06:43 AM
Furry muff :)

Will look at sneaking one in. Does she need any specific heating?

Tsubaki
09-23-16, 10:35 AM
That's beautiful! :D

SnakeyJay
09-23-16, 10:49 AM
Furry muff :)

Will look at sneaking one in. Does she need any specific heating?

26c-30c... 75% humidity ish... :)

SnakeyJay
09-23-16, 10:49 AM
That's beautiful! :D

Thank you! :)

BobBarley
09-23-16, 04:11 PM
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We have many, many species of jumping spider in the US. They've always been my favorites, as far as native spiders, where I live. I used to watch them hunt on our porches when I was growing up.

Not this species, this species gets huge. I see lots of Phidippius sp. around though, and they are nice.

SnakeyJay
09-24-16, 12:00 AM
Not this species, this species gets huge. I see lots of Phidippius sp. around though, and they are nice.

Your right.... Their common name is the "heavy jumping spider" :D!!!