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binbadboy152197
09-15-16, 04:56 AM
Hello Everybody :D:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU45TD_3Syc this is my video about dangerous snakes,
I hope everybody support me by subcrible my channel to see more interested video
Snakes in my video are Tiger Snake, Black Mamba and more snake, let's see video to find out :D:D

jay's reptiles
09-15-16, 07:27 AM
Snakes aren't dangerous, animals aren't dangerous. Humans are dangerous because they can choose to be dangerous. But in my opinion animals of all kinds aren't dangerous. They're just doing their job. I do think we should respect all animals and their space and to respect who they are. You get what i mean? Sorry for ranting XD i got carried away.

binbadboy152197
09-15-16, 10:03 AM
Snakes aren't dangerous, animals aren't dangerous. Humans are dangerous because they can choose to be dangerous. But in my opinion animals of all kinds aren't dangerous. They're just doing their job. I do think we should respect all animals and their space and to respect who they are. You get what i mean? Sorry for ranting XD i got carried away.
Yeah, i understand your think, true that all animals aren't dangerous if people don't violate their space but i think people should see this video to know how to avoid them because anyway, they're capable of killing people by their poison:):) you're a good man

dannybgoode
09-15-16, 02:44 PM
Yeah, i understand your think, true that all animals aren't dangerous if people don't violate their space but i think people should see this video to know how to avoid them because anyway, they're capable of killing people by their poison:):) you're a good man

*venom.

Plus very few people are ever going to encounter these snakes even if they live in the countries the snakes are native to.

Overreaction and hyperbole are much more dangerous to snakes than their venom ever will be to us...

SnakeyJay
09-15-16, 03:15 PM
Overreaction and hyperbole are much more dangerous to snakes than their venom ever will be to us...

Spot on!.....

Magdalen
09-15-16, 03:25 PM
and to add on to what Danny said: (quoted from an article)
"The chances of dying from a venomous snakebite in the United States is nearly zero, because we have available, high-quality medical care in the U.S. Fewer than one in 37,500 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the U.S. each year (7-8,000 bites per year), and only one in 50 million people will die from snakebite (5-6 fatalities per year)."
Venomous Snake FAQs (http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu/venomous_snake_faqs.shtml)

That website goes on to state you're more likely to get struck by lightning or killed by the family dog then killed by a snake bite. Ooooh and about 100 deaths per year due to horse riding accidents.

Minkness
09-15-16, 03:47 PM
and to add on to what Danny said: (quoted from an article)
"The chances of dying from a venomous snakebite in the United States is nearly zero, because we have available, high-quality medical care in the U.S. Fewer than one in 37,500 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the U.S. each year (7-8,000 bites per year), and only one in 50 million people will die from snakebite (5-6 fatalities per year)."
Venomous Snake FAQs (http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu/venomous_snake_faqs.shtml)

That website goes on to state you're more likely to get struck by lightning or killed by the family dog then killed by a snake bite. Ooooh and about 100 deaths per year due to horse riding accidents.

Beautifully said. =)

dave himself
09-15-16, 09:35 PM
Hello Everybody :D:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU45TD_3Syc this is my video about dangerous snakes,
I hope everybody support me by subcrible my channel to see more interested video
Snakes in my video are Tiger Snake, Black Mamba and more snake, let's see video to find out :D:D

Mate just out of curiosity but what venomous snakes or snakes do you keep

FWK
09-15-16, 09:45 PM
I've seen many of these lists, each is more inaccurate and riddled with myths than the previous. It's like they are striving to outdo each other. One could easily deconstruct the whole video point by point, but what really gets me is that every one of these ridiculous lists uses the same picture of a Red-bellied Black Snake (Pseudechis porphyriacus) labeled as a Black Mamba (Dendroaspis polylepis). The opening line in this video sets to tone for the whole thing though, "There's a constant debate which snakes is the most venomous. Some would say Anaconda or King Cobra but that not the most venomous snakes." I don't believe there is any debate there, Anacondas are unquestionably the most venomous.

Captain837
09-15-16, 10:01 PM
and to add on to what Danny said: (quoted from an article)
"The chances of dying from a venomous snakebite in the United States is nearly zero, because we have available, high-quality medical care in the U.S. Fewer than one in 37,500 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the U.S. each year (7-8,000 bites per year), and only one in 50 million people will die from snakebite (5-6 fatalities per year)."
Venomous Snake FAQs (http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu/venomous_snake_faqs.shtml)

That website goes on to state you're more likely to get struck by lightning or killed by the family dog then killed by a snake bite. Ooooh and about 100 deaths per year due to horse riding accidents.

I will admit not many people die from venomous snake bites in the US however the stats are not really all that accurate. At least locally the most common bites I have seen were from Western diamondbacks. I have seen case studies of a few fatalities but the occurred due to complications following the bite. Most often clots thrown causing stroke. The death may be getting liked to stroke rather than snake bite.

I do agree with the idea than no animal is dangerous if treated properly. But you have to admit, some are definitely less forgiving that others when mistakes occur.

pet_snake_78
09-15-16, 10:31 PM
People as a general rule are terrible at risk assessment. Humans have a tendency to fear sensational causes of death (snake bite, lightening strike) much more so than highly likely causes of death (car accident, fire, heart disease, cancer, etc). Snakes are dangerous only to those who didn't notice the snake or are attempting to harass it. Once you've seen the snake, it's no longer a threat, just stay out of striking range and leave it alone.

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 07:14 AM
Snakes are NOT poisonous, snakes are venomous.

Their are venomous and nonvenomous snakes.

Example: Copperhead, King cobra etc..

Jim Smith
09-16-16, 07:24 AM
Jay,

I get your point about venomous versus poisonous and I have to correct about 90% of the people (non-reptile keepers) I speak with when talking about snakes. That said, in your example, it looks like you're suggesting that the Copperhead is venomous while the King Cobra is non-venomous. Perhaps a better example would be to compare a Copperhead to a Kingsnake. Just a thought...

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 07:26 AM
Jay,

I get your point about venomous versus poisonous and I have to correct about 90% of the people (non-reptile keepers) I speak with when talking about snakes. That said, in your example, it looks like you're suggesting that the Copperhead is venomous while the King Cobra is non-venomous. Perhaps a better example would be to compare a Copperhead to a Kingsnake. Just a thought...

No No No. I was giving examples of Venomous snakes like the King cobra and the CopperHead.

Andy_G
09-16-16, 07:49 AM
Something to add to your knowledge base; there ARE actually poisonous snakes...one great example being the japanese grass snake. Have a google at it. :)

I am not a fan of this video. Thanks for sharing it, though.

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 08:21 AM
Poisonous” describes a plant, animal, or anything else that is toxic or harmful if you eat it or touch it. “Venomous,” on the other hand, refers to animals that inject a toxin directly into their prey to subdue them, or in self-defense against a predator.

Andy_G
09-16-16, 08:27 AM
Poisonous” describes a plant, animal, or anything else that is toxic or harmful if you eat it or touch it. “Venomous,” on the other hand, refers to animals that inject a toxin directly into their prey to subdue them, or in self-defense against a predator.

That's right. Friendly suggestion...maybe you should look into what I posted before dismissing it and trying to educate me on something I already know? :)


"A new study shows that the Asian snake Rhabdophis tigrinus becomes poisonous by sequestering toxins from its prey which consists of venomous toads. "

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 08:43 AM
The Rhabdophis tigrinus is not only poisonous its venomous as well. So basically it has both features.

Andy_G
09-16-16, 08:58 AM
The Rhabdophis tigrinus is not only poisonous its venomous as well. So basically it has both features.

You got it! ;)

I vaguely remember reading something about the common garter snake being poisonous as well through the same method...storing poison from certain prey items...but it's been a while so maybe someone slightly less lazy/busy than myself can confirm for fun?

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 09:02 AM
You got it! ;)

I vaguely remember reading something about the common garter snake being poisonous as well through the same method...storing poison from certain prey items...but it's been a while so maybe someone slightly less lazy/busy than myself can confirm for fun?

Actually no, I have many common garter snake around my farm. Yes they are venomous but not poisonous.

Common garter snakes cannot kill humans with the small amounts of comparatively mild venom they produce, and they also lack an effective means of delivering it. They do have enlarged teeth in the back of their mouths

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 09:05 AM
when i mean there is no such thing as a poisonous snake. I mean that there is snakes with venom and poison. But there is no such thing as a snake with only poison.

Andy_G
09-16-16, 09:11 AM
Your previous post stimulated me to make the small effort and I found out that I too can cut and paste from wikipedia. ;)

"There are, however, two exceptions: Rhabdophis sequesters toxins from the toads it eats, then secretes them from nuchal glands to ward off predators, and a small unusual population of garter snakes in the U.S. state of Oregon retains enough toxins in their livers from the newts they eat to be effectively poisonous to small local predators (such as crows and foxes)."

Neat stuff. I wasn't TOTALLY wrong.

Magdalen
09-16-16, 10:33 AM
I will admit not many people die from venomous snake bites in the US however the stats are not really all that accurate. At least locally the most common bites I have seen were from Western diamondbacks. I have seen case studies of a few fatalities but the occurred due to complications following the bite. Most often clots thrown causing stroke. The death may be getting liked to stroke rather than snake bite.

I do agree with the idea than no animal is dangerous if treated properly. But you have to admit, some are definitely less forgiving that others when mistakes occur.

Yeah I didn't get around to double checking those stats, but like pet snake mentioned "Humans have a tendency to fear sensational causes of death" I wanted to point out that there are easier ways to die. Car accidents, cancer, I could go on. Fearing a small chance to die by way of snake, or shark is another example, does more harm to the animal than the person. Then people go oh no this snake is going to kill me so I should kill it, without stopping to see if it is a "dangerous" snake or harmless one or doing any sort of research on it. And yes some times that fear is a good thing in the right hands, because they will treat that animal with respect and leave it alone.

SnakeyJay
09-16-16, 10:37 AM
when i mean there is no such thing as a poisonous snake. I mean that there is snakes with venom and poison. But there is no such thing as a snake with only poison.

Look up the "Checkered keelback snake"...... Then rethink your answer :D

jay's reptiles
09-16-16, 11:10 AM
Look up the "Checkered keelback snake"...... Then rethink your answer :D

i looked it up. All i found was "Nonvenomous and inoffensive"

SnakeyJay
09-16-16, 12:05 PM
i looked it up. All i found was "Nonvenomous and inoffensive"

Non venomous and secrete a poison at the rear of the neck from 2 glands when threatened... Same as all keelback's I believe... :rolleyes:

LouB747
09-16-16, 08:31 PM
Here's a video of a Tiger Keelback I found in Tokyo, Japan. I see them pretty often. Yes, they are both venomous and poisonous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy8H5cZR0Kg

LouB747
09-16-16, 08:32 PM
And these Red Necked Keelbacks are also both venomous and poisonous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsjCVqE-DA