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ssshane
07-21-16, 08:14 AM
Here are a pair (1.1) of NC locale captive born Eastern Hogs
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/SSuperiorSSerpents/Eastern%20Hogs/13445453_1115578401848708_428791525709424806_n_zps ugvayzg7.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/SSuperiorSSerpents/Eastern%20Hogs/13411785_1115578405182041_6579738170057103044_o_zp sofoctngp.jpg
Also two male Melanistic (toad eaters)
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/SSuperiorSSerpents/Eastern%20Hogs/13256025_1109931712413377_4595704567766647444_n_zp smk9ykvne.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/SSuperiorSSerpents/Eastern%20Hogs/13445702_1123059801100568_1408950337881120445_n_zp sezrfmlza.jpg
Ian of Oldham
07-21-16, 11:42 AM
Cool absolutely cool.
0.1.1 Royals 1. 0 Corns 1.0 Boa 1.0 Carpet, and a Mad Cat
SnoopySnake
07-21-16, 11:44 AM
You're working with eastern hoggies!?!?
ssshane
07-21-16, 04:36 PM
I am. I have sold all of my Westerns
macandchz
07-22-16, 08:31 AM
really cool snakes. do they really eat toads or is that just a name? what do they eat in captivity?
Sublimeballs
07-22-16, 11:56 AM
Difficulty switching over food source aside. How are these in captivity compared to westerns?
eminart
07-22-16, 12:23 PM
That melanistic one is very nice. I kept a black one for a couple of days when I was a kid. I realized I wasn't going to be able to feed it, so I let it go.
ssshane
07-22-16, 12:56 PM
really cool snakes. do they really eat toads or is that just a name? what do they eat in captivity?
Yes, their natural prey is toads. I have some eating f/t rodents, while the others are still being offered toads. I will continue to try and convert them, not going to starve them for my convenience.
ssshane
07-22-16, 12:58 PM
Difficulty switching over food source aside. How are these in captivity compared to westerns?
Other than the preferred food, and lack of morphs, not much difference in captivity
Sublimeballs
07-22-16, 02:55 PM
Interesting, how long have you kept them? I'm wondering about longevity when fed high fat prey.
Very nice!!
Interesting, how long have you kept them? I'm wondering about longevity when fed high fat prey.
Westerns do well on rodents no problem...easterns will have problems if fed a strict rodent diet because of exactly what you mentioned.
Sublimeballs
07-22-16, 11:54 PM
Is that from personal experience or hearsay? Hoping to hear personal experience.
As far as easterns go...studies read and from very qualified experienced people that are local of which I am personally friends with...fully accredited and educated conservationists/zoologists who can legally keep them here as they are a native species and otherwise illegal to keep where I live.
Experience with westerns? Definitely...they ARE legal for me to keep and I have produced a lot of em.
I wouldn't pass the info on if I were not confident
..sure as heck isn't ripped off google.. Consider it whatever you like, though.
Sublimeballs
07-23-16, 11:26 AM
Do you have any info on where I can find said studies? Not doubting you but would love a good read. These are some of my favorite snakes to find herping. Been curious for awhile if these suffer a similar fat e to T. Wagleri in captivity.
Don't need any info on westerns they've proven non problematic with high fat prey.
pet_snake_78
07-23-16, 01:21 PM
I have seen some really colorful easterns, there is plenty of color out there to chose from. I am glad to hear you're working with easterns! Plenty of others already doing the westerns. Toads are generally abundant and easily collected so no reason for that to be a big downer. Im sure someone down south could send them to people up north if they needed them but probably easier just to put the snakes to sleep for the winter any whoo.
ssshane
07-23-16, 02:08 PM
Interesting, how long have you kept them? I'm wondering about longevity when fed high fat prey.
They are 1.5 yrs old currently
Do you have any info on where I can find said studies? Not doubting you but would love a good read. These are some of my favorite snakes to find herping. Been curious for awhile if these suffer a similar fat e to T. Wagleri in captivity.
Don't need any info on westerns they've proven non problematic with high fat prey.
I believe it's very similar. Had a hellish car accident today but will post it soon. I believe there is a previous thread on here with a decent link to some field studies. Will dig them up within a few days when Ive recovered a bit and am in the mood to dig.
I am so envious of people who find these field herping. They are extirpatrd from a lot of areas and are a threatened species here.
Sublimeballs
07-23-16, 11:27 PM
We call October hogtober here.lol. C a nt b wait to see some H. SIMUS in the fall
ssshane
07-24-16, 09:59 AM
I still offer a toad here and there. I caught over 20 yesterday and have them set up pretty nicely. Getting ready to feed the toads now. :)
ssshane
07-24-16, 09:59 AM
(20 toads that is)
Sublimeballs
09-05-16, 02:21 PM
Hey shane, a co worker of mine asked me how much a CB melanistic eastern hog would go for... I told them I have no idea, most are probably wild caught. Any clue?
Albert Clark
09-05-16, 03:46 PM
I still offer a toad here and there. I caught over 20 yesterday and have them set up pretty nicely. Getting ready to feed the toads now. :)
I had looked up some info on eastern hogs a while back when there was a discussion on feedings here on the forum. The feedings discussions were mainly on the western hog and a varied diet versus solely rodent. The studies were done by the University of Georgia but only inclusive of the eastern hog nose. It was a internet search. As far as the toads, how do you manage the parasitic loads and risks to the snakes? Is it a concern?
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