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trailblazer295
06-26-16, 10:59 AM
The time has now come I've succumbed to the pressure. I'm now the proud owner of a new death worm.
She is 25% jungle - 25% diamond - 25% bredli - 12.5% Iran jaya - 12.5% coastal jag x Iran jaya. Bought her from a local breeder at an expo.

She might be a jag though her head seems to be okay. I'm a sucker for cool patterns and X marked the spot. She was also not an attack worm though she did strike at the breeder while I was holding her. The ride home didn't seem bother her a lot as she wasn't trying to fight when I set her free as you can see. She did a lap and promptly coiled herself up into the very top corner of the cage.

No name as of yet but here she is and her home as it sits.

Minkness
06-26-16, 11:05 AM
Persephone is jealous of that enclosure lol.

Beautiful new addition! Hope she is everything we all promised youa carpet would be!

phassin
06-26-16, 11:16 AM
Nice new carpet! it certainly looks like a jag. What does her belly look like? If it's mostly clean or completely white on her belly scales then she's very likely to be a jag.

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 11:26 AM
This is the only picture I snapped that catches her belly. She is clean white though and sexed and jag determined by the breeder.

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 11:31 AM
Persephone is jealous of that enclosure lol.

Beautiful new addition! Hope she is everything we all promised youa carpet would be!

Thanks, I'm happy with how the tank turned out. I hope she is too, so far she isn't a bite machine so off to a good start.

Minkness
06-26-16, 11:35 AM
Yeah. Persephone hasn't ever tried to get me, but dang she hits her feeders hard! Oh! She ate a quail chick yesterday! Looking forward to giving her a varried diet as she grows =)

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 11:39 AM
Yeah. Persephone hasn't ever tried to get me, but dang she hits her feeders hard! Oh! She ate a quail chick yesterday! Looking forward to giving her a varried diet as she grows =)

The breeder recommended to offer mice or asfs at this age, higher calcium but throw in rats every 3rd feeding to still make them get used to rats. He has adult carpet stuck on mice. Not something I want to happen. Sadly we don't get the chicks you do. :(

EL Ziggy
06-26-16, 01:22 PM
Congrats Blaze. That's a beautiful carpet. Your enclosure looks great too. I really think you'll enjoy the Morelia experience. They're really neat snakes. I give mine mostly rats but I'll throw mice, asfs, and chicks in the mix too. None of mine are picky eaters.

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 01:27 PM
Congrats Blaze. That's a beautiful carpet. Your enclosure looks great too. I really think you'll enjoy the Morelia experience. They're really neat snakes. I give mine mostly rats but I'll throw mice, asfs, and chicks in the mix too. None of mine are picky eaters.

Thanks, the breeder recommended asf's and mice while young for better development. And add rats for a mix so they are still okay with them. He has an adult carpet that refuses rats so it's possible though not common. But he recommended mice and asf's for the higher calcium content over rats.

riddick07
06-26-16, 01:27 PM
Nice! Mine is most definitely not a picky eater and he sits at the front of his cage now watching for food all the time...like he has never ever been fed in his life lol

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 01:41 PM
I'm hoping she stays true to the feeding side of carpets. It's okay if she doesn't want to bite me every time though lol

MDT
06-26-16, 01:50 PM
Thanks, the breeder recommended asf's and mice while young for better development. And add rats for a mix so they are still okay with them. He has an adult carpet that refuses rats so it's possible though not common. But he recommended mice and asf's for the higher calcium content over rats.

The calorie content of mice vs rats is vastly different and you'll spend a fortune on food (mice or ASF) if your carpet becomes a mouser. Growth rates are exceptionally slow (and I'm not a power feeder by any means). Every breeder I know starts their JCP off on F/T (if possible) rat pinks, so I'm interested as to why this breeder would recommend mice to begin? My hatchlings are offered rat pinks and about half have taken them. The rest are taking mouse hoppers. I hate this....I've had a mouser before and it's frustrating. I actually switch mine over to ReptiLinks as soon as they will take them (and most will), but that conversation is for another thread/discussion.

Nice looking jag btw. Great pick up and welcome to the club :D

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 02:06 PM
The calorie content of mice vs rats is vastly different and you'll spend a fortune on food (mice or ASF) if your carpet becomes a mouser. Growth rates are exceptionally slow (and I'm not a power feeder by any means). Every breeder I know starts their JCP off on F/T (if possible) rat pinks, so I'm interested as to why this breeder would recommend mice to begin? My hatchlings are offered rat pinks and about half have taken them. The rest are taking mouse hoppers. I hate this....I've had a mouser before and it's frustrating. I actually switch mine over to ReptiLinks as soon as they will take them (and most will), but that conversation is for another thread/discussion.

Nice looking jag btw. Great pick up and welcome to the club :D

The breeder recommended not exclusively rats at this age. The higher calcium content of mice and asfs vs higher fat of rats but mix in rats so she is still used to eating rats and just rotate until she gets a bit of size on her. She is only a little over a month old at this point. I plan on rotating 2 mice to 1 rat or 1, 1 and 1 depending on availability until she bulks up a bit. Then will transition to rats more often. She is eating FT.

dave himself
06-26-16, 02:45 PM
Great looking carpet and beautiful looking set up you've got there TB ;)

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 02:55 PM
Thanks Dave

Guys keep in mind her mom is a pure IJ and she is eating mice pinks right now. I just have small hands.

bigsnakegirl785
06-26-16, 03:57 PM
Gorgeous girl! I think it's a good thing I didn't snag a carpet a few years ago, because I feel I'd get hooked on them, too, and it would truly be a fight trying to fit a bunch of both carpets and boa constrictors in our current residence. lol Definitely want to get one in the future, though.

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 04:05 PM
Gorgeous girl! I think it's a good thing I didn't snag a carpet a few years ago, because I feel I'd get hooked on them, too, and it would truly be a fight trying to fit a bunch of both carpets and boa constrictors in our current residence. lol Definitely want to get one in the future, though.

Thanks, funny the breeder told me 1 carpet soon turns into 10 lol. I don't want that to happen but seeing the characteristics of carpets I could see how that could happen. Hell I've seen pictures of a pied carpet. Who could turn down a pied carpet if they saw it?!?!?

EL Ziggy
06-26-16, 05:27 PM
Blaze- Don't buy too many pinkys. Carpets can be started on mice fuzzys if not mice hoppers straight from the egg. As MDT said rat pinks are cool too. They can handle larger meals than you would think. I started my carpets on mice fuzzys and moved them to rat fuzzys after that. As far as the potential to get addicted to Morelia. I know how easy that is. My last 4 snakes have been carpets.

trailblazer295
06-26-16, 05:30 PM
Blaze- Don't buy too many pinkys. Carpets can be started on mice fuzzys if not mice hoppers straight from the egg. As MDT said rat pinks are cool too. They can handle larger meals than you would think. I started my carpets on mice fuzzys and moved them to rat fuzzys after that. As far as the potential to get addicted to Morelia. I know how easy that is. My last 4 snakes have been carpets.

Too late Zig I have a few meals for the little girl already. Bought what she was eating now. As for the other part you're not helping lol

toddnbecka
06-27-16, 01:44 AM
Very pretty little one, looks about the size as my IJ when I brought her home. That one would strike at anything that moved, but has calmed down 100% now. She's still taking mice, just fed her a good-size adult tonight, while the older/larger jungle/cross is now taking medium rats. He was never a problem to handle from the start, I suspect yours will be about the same. I just switched him from mice a few weeks ago after he escaped his tank and chowed down a whole tub full of breeder mice, 6 pregnant females and one male. No problem switching him over, I just gave him a live rat to start the transition from mice. He'll be switched to f/t after one more live feeding.

trailblazer295
06-27-16, 10:45 AM
I'll be leaving her alone for a few days and Guage activity levels. Last feed was Wednesday. Oh yeah I remember that picture. Quite the glutten lol

SnoopySnake
06-27-16, 10:49 AM
Very nice!!

macandchz
06-27-16, 10:52 AM
what are reptilinks?

trailblazer295
06-27-16, 11:20 AM
what are reptilinks?
A sausage for reptiles

macandchz
06-28-16, 08:12 AM
dear trailblazer295- about reptilinks-do snakes really eat them? did you ever use them? any idea where you would get them? thanks for your info.

MDT
06-28-16, 09:53 AM
dear trailblazer295- about reptilinks-do snakes really eat them? did you ever use them? any idea where you would get them? thanks for your info.

Short answer (not to hijack thread)...yes they do. very well. i use them preferentially. you get them from Reptilinks whole-prey (http://www.reptilinks.com)
nutritionally vetted, kcal/gm better than mice or rats. don't feed as often, waste products decreased, growth rates up, food bill down.

Andy_G
06-28-16, 09:59 AM
I don't know of anywhere to buy them in Canada. No distributors listed and I haven't even seen or heard of anyone trying them here.

phassin
06-28-16, 10:03 AM
MDT, I just checked that website and it looks like it's 4$ a link for the equivalent for a medium rat, without shipping cost. That's a good bit more than frozen rats. How often do you feed with those (lets say an adult carpet).

MDT
06-28-16, 10:47 AM
MDT, I just checked that website and it looks like it's 4$ a link for the equivalent for a medium rat, without shipping cost. That's a good bit more than frozen rats. How often do you feed with those (lets say an adult carpet).

Phassin, I just PM'd you so we wouldn't totally jack Trailblazer's thread :)

trailblazer295
06-28-16, 11:01 AM
I've never used them just knew what they were.

Back on topic. The little worm gave me a mild heart attack. Took 5 minutes searching the cage until I found her semi buried wedged under a stump. Started thinking escape even though it's secure.

trailblazer295
06-29-16, 04:55 AM
Caught her perched in the open this morning. Now this is what I wanted from a carpet python lol

EL Ziggy
06-29-16, 07:46 AM
Thee's plenty more where that came from Blaze. Sit back and enjoy the show :).

trailblazer295
06-29-16, 07:48 AM
Didn't want to disturb her to much. Snapped the pictures and left the room. Soon after the sun came out and she retreated to the plants.

Andy_G
06-29-16, 08:27 AM
That's why Ziggy loves his carpets, I think. They're almost always out...either perched sleeping, or cruising around. Enjoy that one! We have all had a little freak out or two when a new addition has gone "missing" in their own enclosure! :D

trailblazer295
06-29-16, 08:33 AM
All my snakes have been a lot bigger when I got them. I was sure the cage was secure but such a tiny snake I started doubting that. Checked the cables behind the cage . Now I know where her hiding spot is on the ground. Never had such a tiny thing to find. Plan to give a few more days until I attempt feeding.

toddnbecka
06-29-16, 11:51 PM
Even when she was a wee pissy murder worm my little IJ had a healthy appetite. I doubt you'll have any problems getting your new baby to eat. Was she started on mice or rat pinks?

Found my little IJ was MIA when I came home from work last Friday night. She gets fed on Sundays, so she was on the hungry side of the week. I put 2 mice in a 10 gallon tank with a screen top in the middle of a table, turned off the lights, and came upstairs. Went back down about 2 hours later, and found her just starting across the table toward the tank of mice. She now has 2 straps securing the top of her tank instead of 1 in the middle, and will be moved into a larger enclosure soon.

trailblazer295
06-30-16, 04:46 AM
She is on mice pinks every 5 days.

Andy_G
06-30-16, 08:34 AM
Definitely go with fuzzies or hoppers if you're going to use mice...she's plenty large enough. If you use rats, good sized pinkies or peach fuzzies would be good.

toddnbecka
07-01-16, 12:50 AM
Definitely go with fuzzies or hoppers if you're going to use mice...she's plenty large enough. If you use rats, good sized pinkies or peach fuzzies would be good.

Ya, when I brought my first carpet home I tried feeding him pinky mice for a few weeks w/out any luck. Finally got him to take a live hopper, then months later it occured to me he'd probably been started on rat pinks. Pythons can easily handle something twice the size you'd feed a similar-size colubrid.

EL Ziggy
07-01-16, 08:23 AM
You guys are so right. My carpets have really surprised me with the prey sizes they can take down. When I got my first carpet he was already a yearling but only 85g when he arrived. I started him on (10-19g) rat fuzzys. He ate these for his first (3) feedings. I was talking to the breeder one day and he told me the critter could easily take a jumbo mouse even though he was only about 120g. I thought to myself NO WAY! But, he's a very well respected breeder who's produced thousands of carpets and other snakes, so I decided to give it a go. The snake didn't flinch one bit and made quick work of the jumbo mouse. On another occasion my 1600g male bull snake ate his chick but refused his medium rat. He's finicky and will only eat a rat after he has eaten a chick. If I offer the rat first he won't touch it. And he seems to prefer small rats over medium rats. This was one of those times he wouldn't take his medium. My coastal was 875g at the time and was on small rats. I decided to offer the refused medium to the coastal and he smashed it effortlessly. He's been on mediums every since. He's about 1200g now and I have no doubt that he could handle a large rat but I'll hold back on those for now. My 385g female jungle was eating (35-49g) rat weaners. I'm travelling on vacation next week and it'll be two weeks until she eats again so I decided to give her a 60g small rat which was her largest meal so far. She inhaled that thing and was still looking for more. I won't push the envelope too far, I've seen some people feed their carpets until they look like they've swallowed a football, but I've learned not to underestimate these guys.

@ Blaze- finish off the pinkys and give that beast some real food :).

trailblazer295
07-02-16, 04:42 AM
Sad to say first feeding attempt yesterday failed. Zero interest in the pinkie. Didn't even look towards me wiggling it. Tried leaving it in her cage overnight on the perch but it's still there.

EL Ziggy
07-02-16, 08:30 AM
No worries Blaze. I'm sure she'll come around quickly. Keep trying to feed her at night and serve the prey item at about 100F. I still think the mice pinks are too small. They really should have prey with fur and more developed bone structure.

trailblazer295
07-02-16, 08:32 AM
No worries Blaze. I'm sure she'll come around quickly. Keep trying to feed her at night and serve the prey item at about 100F. I still think the mice pinks are too small. They really should have prey with fur and more developed bone structure.

Yeah I messed that one up, the breeder just told me rat pink. That was my bad. Once I get her eating i'll offer the mice every other day to go through the few I have the up her prey size.

macandchz
07-02-16, 09:12 AM
really like the enclosure and the snake is a great looking girl.

valkea
07-02-16, 03:21 PM
Gorgeous! Love your set up too.

I got a 94% IJ Jag a little while ago. Love the little bugger even though she bites a lot haha. I haven't seen any in my area so just shipped one to me from Ontario. I plan on doing a bioactive viv for mine once I get it built.

trailblazer295
07-03-16, 03:05 PM
The cage is planted with soil but not "bio active" it's still a work in progress. Going to give the girl a few days before trying to feed again.

Pogie
07-04-16, 12:48 PM
Love your new snake! I have that same enclosure, also set up almost identical :)
Been set up for a while now but no critters in it lol.
Still trying to figure out what I want to put in it.

franks
07-08-16, 08:07 PM
Congrats on your new guy and welcome to the awesome world of carpets.

trailblazer295
07-09-16, 04:03 AM
Love your new snake! I have that same enclosure, also set up almost identical :)
Been set up for a while now but no critters in it lol.
Still trying to figure out what I want to put in it.

It's a tough size for sure. I had a vine snake in it for awhile, rough green snakes would fit. Not sure what I'll do with it once the carpet outgrows it and moves to her adult home.

trailblazer295
07-15-16, 04:18 AM
Happy to update after 2 weeks of no interest and hiding buried mostly underground she seems to have settled down. Is curled up on a cork round hide and has now taken 2 meals. Last one took 2 seconds to attack.

EL Ziggy
07-15-16, 08:01 AM
Sounds like you've found the sweet spot Blaze. Hopefully it's smooth sailing the rest of the way. ;)

sattva
07-15-16, 12:40 PM
Happy to update after 2 weeks of no interest and hiding buried mostly underground she seems to have settled down. Is curled up on a cork round hide and has now taken 2 meals. Last one took 2 seconds to attack.
Glad your little one is eating!... I have a JCP just about the same size, pattern, and color, except mine seems to be a little more yellow, but that could just be lighting in the picture...
My little guy went missing in my room for 30 days and when I got him back he would not eat... I have to sick him into a paper bag with a pinky mouse over night to get him to eat.
Your guys cage is much more elaborate then my guy... All my guys have paper towels for a floor... When one of them poops I am ready to go.... I am all about easy; but way cool habitat. Have fun

Ian of Oldham
07-15-16, 01:55 PM
Great news that it is now eating.


2 Royals 1 Corn 1 Boa and a mad Cat.