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bigsnakegirl785
03-08-16, 04:56 PM
Well, I just got the shipping notification for the arrival of my Picasso stripe and hypo BRBs, scheduled for arrival on Wednesday! I'm just going to lump them here together since they're coming in at the same time, so hopefully updates will be a bit more frequent.
The hypo is a female, born on June 20, 2015, and the Picasso stripe is a male, born on July 30, 2015. Morzan, the Picasso, is a littermate of Guin's.
When they arrive I'll have some pictures to put up!
jpsteele80
03-08-16, 05:00 PM
Can't wait to see pics
Me neither, they sound fantastic!
EL Ziggy
03-08-16, 10:51 PM
Looking forward to seeing the pictures BSG. Sounds like you've got some beauties on the way.
toddnbecka
03-09-16, 12:49 AM
Sounds like you've been bitten hard by the rainbow bug. Can't wait to see pics of the new additions. Love baby boas, and BRB's are some of the brightest.
bigsnakegirl785
03-09-16, 12:16 PM
Here they are! I expected them to either be Sanji's size at ~8 months (80-90grams), or roughly his current size, and I was technically right on both counts. :P The female is big, and the male is teeny, even teenier than Sanji at that age. The reason for this is Dave tells me that the male is rather sensitive with his food, so he's having to remain on much smaller meals. So, he's going to be sticking to mouse fuzzies for awhile.
Homura, the female was a real sweetheart when I got her out, but she was looking for stuff to climb on immediately coming out of the bag, and she was climbing at the top of her tub earlier, but is soaking her head in her water dish right now. She came out to 124 grams in the bag.
https://40.media.tumblr.com/0f0e63325d5a0d74a330993f98799e7e/tumblr_o3sa18MGWg1sjttato1_1280.jpg
And her in her tub. It had dried out overnight, so I went back in it and sprayed it down again and put some moss in there, the male's tub already had moss and is still nice and humid.
https://41.media.tumblr.com/f32e2ce15aa08eefe0fbbf3591b926ce/tumblr_o3sa18MGWg1sjttato4_1280.jpg
The male, Morzan, came out at 70 grams in the bag, and came out swinging wildly, snapping randomly in the air at the slightest movement and even bit the strap on my camera. >.> He didn't bite me though he was eyeballing my wrist when I tried to get him in the tub.
https://41.media.tumblr.com/5e92ff43880ca515c99cbedac2ef54ec/tumblr_o3sa18MGWg1sjttato2_1280.jpg
https://41.media.tumblr.com/2035174727a91d4af9cdb420b95c75b5/tumblr_o3sa18MGWg1sjttato3_1280.jpg
So those are the newcomers! I'll be posting some more pictures once they take a meal or two. I'll probably give the male at least two meals before I handle him, due to the sensitivities mentioned, but the female should be ok to go if she takes her first meal without hesitation.
They are fantastic lookin animals, congrats!
toddnbecka
03-10-16, 01:11 AM
Really great looking pair, even if the male is a bit neurotic, lol. Hopefully he'll get over the attitude and calm down. Love the orange on the female and the contrast on the male.
dannybgoode
03-10-16, 01:14 AM
Nice. Brb's are up there on the list of snakes that will ultimately lead to my divorce :)
Beautiful pair...
Albert Clark
03-10-16, 12:48 PM
Cool pickups! Congrats.
bigsnakegirl785
03-10-16, 03:47 PM
Thanks everyone! I got the female for color and the male for pattern.
Really great looking pair, even if the male is a bit neurotic, lol. Hopefully he'll get over the attitude and calm down. Love the orange on the female and the contrast on the male.
lol I wouldn't really mind even if he doesn't or takes a long time, he's so tiny and BRBs don't get very big. I guess I'll see how he does once he eats a few times.
Both are nice! But that female....wow!
EL Ziggy
03-12-16, 06:40 PM
Both are nice! But that female....wow!
My sentiments exactly. Awesome new additions BSG.
bigsnakegirl785
03-12-16, 07:25 PM
Thanks everyone! She really is nice, bright like an orange highlighter. I can't wait to see how much color she keeps as an adult, from what I can tell they generally show their final colors around 18 months of age.
Tiny Boidae
03-12-16, 07:47 PM
I'm a little late to the party, but I gotta say that your female is one nifty little gal. BRB's were never my thing, but I never had seen one THAT orange before. I also love the way it brings out her head markings, really makes it pop!
Looking forward to seeing more of these guys. Congrats on the handsome fellas!
Piggybuns
03-12-16, 09:17 PM
Rainbow boa's are gorgeous! >w< I'm odd in the sense that I don't really fear snakes with bad attitudes, I just think it's cute. As long as they're little and don't do a lot of damage when they latch on, like one of the giants. XD Aww, poor lil crabby pants.
Also... I'mma be the one nerd in here who asks if you named Morzan after one of the 13th Forsworn from Eragon...? >3> Cuz that's what I was thinking the first I saw you mentioned it, ha.
AwesomeGuy376
03-13-16, 01:33 AM
Man i love the bright colours on those snakes.. Makes me want one :P But seriously nice snakes :)
bigsnakegirl785
03-13-16, 04:51 PM
I'm a little late to the party, but I gotta say that your female is one nifty little gal. BRB's were never my thing, but I never had seen one THAT orange before. I also love the way it brings out her head markings, really makes it pop!
Looking forward to seeing more of these guys. Congrats on the handsome fellas!
Believe it or not, she was nowhere near the brightest of the litter! Her brother, the one I was originally going to get was 2-3x brighter, but Dave ended up holding him back. Some of her other brothers and sisters were of similar brightness to him. I may see if he'll repeat the pairing, or have a similar pairing, and try to get one of those brighter babies in 2017-2018 or something.
If you've ever seen Dave's photos, they're very dark, and the flash usually looks very different from the non-flash photos, drowning out a lot of their color. Well, the brightest of the littermates didn't look any less bright orange in the flash photo than they did in the non-flash photos, so they had to have been super super super bright.
Hypos are starting to gain more and more color as breeders are selectively breeding for higher/deeper red het hypo parents.
Rainbow boa's are gorgeous! >w< I'm odd in the sense that I don't really fear snakes with bad attitudes, I just think it's cute. As long as they're little and don't do a lot of damage when they latch on, like one of the giants. XD Aww, poor lil crabby pants.
Also... I'mma be the one nerd in here who asks if you named Morzan after one of the 13th Forsworn from Eragon...? >3> Cuz that's what I was thinking the first I saw you mentioned it, ha.
I'll have to say you're not out of place here on that front! I do try not to antagonize my snakes, since it stresses them out, but at least I got finally got a snappy baby, even if he ends up being much calmer once he's settled in.
Yes, it's Morzan from Eragon. I named him before I got him, but he certainly living up to his name. haha
Snakesitter
03-14-16, 10:52 PM
Hypos are starting to gain more and more color as breeders are selectively breeding for higher/deeper red het hypo parents.
SPot on -- hypos are indeed getting brighter!
This is one of our holdbacks from last year (with flash):
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1685/23565337523_a947bb64ca_z.jpg
I expect even more glowing results from this year’s pairing:
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicrates/111814-breeding-profile-group-1-hypo-het.html
Best,
Albert Clark
03-15-16, 04:57 AM
You never cease to amaze BSG. Congrats again.
bigsnakegirl785
03-15-16, 01:01 PM
SPot on -- hypos are indeed getting brighter!
This is one of our holdbacks from last year (with flash):
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1685/23565337523_a947bb64ca_z.jpg
I expect even more glowing results from this year’s pairing:
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicrates/111814-breeding-profile-group-1-hypo-het.html
Best,
Nice! I'm not against buying elsewhere, so I'm willing to consider anyone with bright hypo babies. I just know Dave has already produced those bright hypos. haha I've seen some other hypos from high red parents, but they paled next her. Your hold back looks very close to her colors! Not sure if it's the camera, but it's got a deeper orange color rather than a fluorescent highlighter orange, but I'm not against that color. ;)
I'll keep you and Dave in consideration when I'm ready to get another rainbow. I've got to wait on the bigger snakes until I get my snow boa. haha Nothing bigger than a hoggie or garter until then.
Snakesitter
03-16-16, 01:51 PM
Why thank you! :-) This year's hypo litter, if she takes, should be stunning. But I'm please to see hypo quality up across the board.
bigsnakegirl785
03-16-16, 09:58 PM
Well, Morzan is deep in blue, so he'll be skipping feeding day. Not only do I try not to feed my snakes in shed, he seems to be fairly shy, so I didn't want to stress him out trying to feed him in shed after recently arriving.
Homura also appears to be in shed, but I'm not sure exactly what hypos look like while in shed. She doesn't look highlighter orange and in one of the photos she looks slightly milky. I didn't notice until after I fed her, but she took it so I let her have it.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0551_zpsd0h19uya.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0551_zpsd0h19uya.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0550_zpsyavr2omb.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0550_zpsyavr2omb.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0549_zpsaomqht0d.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0549_zpsaomqht0d.jpg.html)
EL Ziggy
03-17-16, 10:43 PM
Beautiful critters and very nice pictures BSG. I bet they'll look even more amazing post shed.
bigsnakegirl785
03-18-16, 12:56 PM
Well, it's been confirmed that Homura is in shed! I picked her up today and she's gone blue. :D
Beautiful critters and very nice pictures BSG. I bet they'll look even more amazing post shed.
Thanks! It's gonna be a long wait, because about half of my snakes are in shed, leaving only a couple snakes I can handle. haha
bigsnakegirl785
03-20-16, 08:55 PM
Homura is very blue now! Morzan has cleared up, so hopefully he'll be shedding soon. So far, River and Draco have shed, leaving 4 others. At least.
https://36.media.tumblr.com/c0980313d7c59a21610905990b49a8d4/tumblr_o4dc2nfORw1sjttato1_1280.jpg
https://36.media.tumblr.com/cc742d82ba1ec05b43c7dafd353c6f95/tumblr_o4dc2nfORw1sjttato2_1280.jpg
Snakesitter
03-21-16, 02:06 PM
Now *that* is a blue snake!
bigsnakegirl785
03-21-16, 11:05 PM
Now *that* is a blue snake!
Indeed she is!
Morzan shed today and got his first meal with me! He was kind of unsure at first, and took a lot of rubbing against his mouth for him to take it, after pulling back multiple times. I gave him the tiniest mouse I could find that wasn't a pinkie, just to be on the safe side. I managed to find a mouse in the hopper bag that was barely bigger than a pinkie. If he keeps this down I'll feed him a slightly bigger meal, but I'll still be sticking to fuzzies.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0602_zpsdk8y0ute.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0602_zpsdk8y0ute.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0604_zpspi0tm74k.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0604_zpspi0tm74k.jpg.html)
Post feed.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0614_zps6q2guddu.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0614_zps6q2guddu.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0615_zpswxntfrfv.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0615_zpswxntfrfv.jpg.html)
Snakesitter
03-22-16, 01:41 PM
Good news -- congrats!
bigsnakegirl785
03-22-16, 03:59 PM
Good news -- congrats!
Thanks! If you've ever had babies with delicate stomachs, do they end up outgrowing it? I don't want to feed him huge meals, but I'm wondering if there will be a time I don't have to be so careful with his feedings, so if I slip up and accidentally give him a slightly too big meal he won't regurge.
Snakesitter
03-23-16, 02:28 PM
Some do, some do not. Unfortunately, this is one of those items where only time will tell. Wish I had a better answer!
bigsnakegirl785
03-23-16, 11:18 PM
Some do, some do not. Unfortunately, this is one of those items where only time will tell. Wish I had a better answer!
That's fine, I was just curious. It will be a lot easier to feed him appropriate meals as he gets bigger, but it's so easy to misjudge the size of such small mice and rats. I'll probably stick to smaller meals regardless, I'm just worried about accidentally grabbing a hopper when I needed a fuzzy....the size difference isn't that big visually. Guess I'll just mark the bags "fuzzy - Morzan." haha Until he gets big enough to move up.
Snakesitter
03-24-16, 06:30 PM
Marking is good. ;-) I always round to the small side for any snake that has had regurg issues.
bigsnakegirl785
03-25-16, 11:44 AM
Homura shed today! I took some outdoor photos to capture her colors better, and then offered her a mouse. I gave her one of the mice I raised myself, forgetting that I'd grown them to small adult mouse size before culling them...but, she's got more girth than Sanji, so the bulge wasn't all that bad despite her being smaller than him. I also think they're a bit smaller in size than the small adult mice I have from Big Cheese despite being the same weight....Next time she'll get a hopper.
I also changed out Morzan and Homura's bedding completely, so I snapped a few photos of my other ball python. :P I've got two ball pythons that aren't even ball pythons!
I found her like this when I went in to change her bedding...I was looking around and didn't see her body peeking out from the moss and I was like "Oh no she's gotten out where is she...wait...what's that weird blob in the corner of my vision? Oh my gosh, not again."
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0649_zpshjf5uemy.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0649_zpshjf5uemy.jpg.html)
I love the weird Roman-nosed dog-faces hypos have, I wish she'd sit still long enough for me to get a good close up. lol She's a lot more active than Sanji or Morzan, and hasn't balled up on me yet.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0653_zpsihor5uri.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0653_zpsihor5uri.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0665_zpsuo7z2wmo.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0665_zpsuo7z2wmo.jpg.html)
Grabbing the mouse. She got it down really quickly, so it definitely wasn't a chore. By the time I sat down, transferred the photos off the card, and went and checked up on her, she'd already finished the mouse and was crawling off. Couldn't have been more than 2-3 minutes.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0677_zpsfjrqfhar.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0677_zpsfjrqfhar.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0680_zpsp67esrwi.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0680_zpsp67esrwi.jpg.html)
And Morzan balling up defensively when I took him out. Sorry little buddy, but you have to come out if I'm going to give you new bedding! I've decided to go full moss, because the paper towel gets gross quickly and molds.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0646_zpsdx4olocz.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0646_zpsdx4olocz.jpg.html)
Even after I put him in his tub, he just sat there balled up. 10 minutes later, he was still balled up in the middle of his tub. Silly thing.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0648_zpsg1zkxnlp.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0648_zpsg1zkxnlp.jpg.html)
Lefitte
03-25-16, 08:43 PM
Oh my, they are gorgeous! Makes me want to take my BRB out, but it's feeding day so I'll have to pass haha.
So around 18 months they have their adult coloration? My Xango is 9 months now so he's halfway there.
bigsnakegirl785
03-25-16, 09:56 PM
Oh my, they are gorgeous! Makes me want to take my BRB out, but it's feeding day so I'll have to pass haha.
So around 18 months they have their adult coloration? My Xango is 9 months now so he's halfway there.
Yup, so I hear. These two are around the same age as Xango, so they'll probably change a lot in the next 9 months or so. Sanji pretty much looked like he does now at around 9-10 months, but his color has become a bit more solid, with his saddles standing out less, and his reddish color has gone up and down between leaning towards red or brown each shed. But his changes should be smaller and more stable now, at 19 months.
Snakesitter
03-28-16, 01:56 PM
Between 18 and 30. Some develop more slowly. I've even had some experience a "dip" in attractiveness as juveniles before going on to become splendid adults.
Snakesitter
03-28-16, 01:57 PM
Snake logic ftw. ;-)
bigsnakegirl785
03-28-16, 02:54 PM
Between 18 and 30. Some develop more slowly. I've even had some experience a "dip" in attractiveness as juveniles before going on to become splendid adults.
Some snakes just change forever, too. My ball python will be 10 this year, and it seems like he looks vastly different after some sheds. I've had times where he was a deep, dark chocolate color, times he's been a light tan color, and once where he almost looked axanthic. But Sanji's been staying pretty steady lately, leaning slightly more towards red, but he could still surprise me and change even more as he gets older. He may not be high red, but he's still got a very lovely reddish color, that I hope he'll either keep or improve on in the future.
Tsubaki
03-29-16, 01:31 PM
Beautiful. . Love the names of your snakes :D !
bigsnakegirl785
03-30-16, 11:02 PM
Beautiful. . Love the names of your snakes :D !
Thanks! I wasn't sure what to name them at first, but then those names just popped into my head.
Morzan ate his second meal a few days ago, this time a proper-sized fuzzy. He's keeping it down and I haven't found any regurges, so I think the prey size is good! I'm hoping to eventually get some meat on his bones, his food sensitivity has left him quite the lean little boa.
Homura left me a little present today as well, I swear rainbows have the nastiest poops. lol They don't always smell (if I catch them early enough: wet moss + warm flex watt + time = a smelly poop) and aren't runny, but they look very odd. All three of my rainbows poop the same sort of turds, so I'm pretty sure it isn't a health issue, and I've posted similar poops on here and got the "normal card." Just quite a bit different from the others.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0729_zps6otkpl3s.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0729_zps6otkpl3s.jpg.html)
He took the mouse with the gentlest little strike, and didn't make a sound as opposed to the clumsy clunk-clunk-thwap the other snakes make.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0732_zps0rh4cqvb.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/DSC_0732_zps0rh4cqvb.jpg.html)
bigsnakegirl785
04-02-16, 06:45 PM
Had Morzan out for a bit of handling the other night, I kept it short and sweet to be gentle on him, only had him out maybe 10 minutes. He gave me the stink eye the whole time, but he appears to be over his striking mood. lol
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1689/25925639380_12bd6b39ce_b.jpg
That stink eye I was talking about.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1658/25595838753_92134fb31b_b.jpg
The bulge isn't noticeable in pictures on Day 3, but in person it was a small bulge, and there's been no regurges, so whew! I can breathe a sigh of relief.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1617/25593758924_36e9fa6ab3_b.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
04-04-16, 10:25 PM
I finally got my Canon Rebel t3i, so here are some photos I took of these two the other day!
I went to get Homura out, and she snapped at me! I must have really surprised her, because that's the first time she's done this. She didn't connect, and once I got her belly on a finger she was back to normal.
I've had to put her back on paper towels for the time being, with just a bit of moss bunched up under one hide. I'm going to drill a few more holes down near the bottom to aid in air flow, because I went to get her out this weekend and her moss was covered in white! I had taken her out the day before without a sign of mold anywhere...picking up the moss sent a thick cloud of spores everywhere....
SOOO yeah, I'm hoping adding air flow near the level of the moss will keep that from happening again. She's had two bedding changes since I got her, but I've never seen her's mold like this....All the water from the moss seemed to just gather in a pool on the bottom of the tub instead of evaporating. Very strange, the same problems aren't happening in Sanji's or Morzan's tub, and they've got about the same amount of ventilation.
I don't spray their bedding, I drop the moss in a bucket of water, pick it up and squeeze it until no more water comes out, and put it back in. I've found the color drains away and the moss goes brown if I just spray it.
She's a chubby girl, easily has the biggest girth out of the three of them. Hasn't turned down a meal yet, and I was told she's a pig. You can certainly tell!
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0844_zpsmsku5ove.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0844_zpsmsku5ove.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0851_zpsaeqo68ts.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0851_zpsaeqo68ts.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0846_zpsijpiqvzd.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0846_zpsijpiqvzd.jpg.html)
And these are the ones from today (well yesterday now).
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0857_zps3i4j49nj.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0857_zps3i4j49nj.jpg.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0863_zpsroad0z1g.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0863_zpsroad0z1g.jpg.html)
She's got pretty steely-blue eyes.
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p600/dtr_2009_/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0867_zpsoylw8d0e.jpg (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/dtr_2009_/media/My%20Snakes/Morzan%20and%20Homura/IMG_0867_zpsoylw8d0e.jpg.html)
She's also very strange to handle. She doesn't really grab onto me like the other two rainbows and my boa constrictors, and when she does grip, her grip is weak. Not sure if that's because she doesn't feel the need to, or because of her chubbiness, or just because she still needs to get the hang of holding on. I'm always feeling like she's gonna fall, and she just lets her body loosely hang off my hands and doesn't always try to grab anything when she does start to fall, that's all on me.
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Here she is actually gripping me. haha
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bigsnakegirl785
04-04-16, 10:31 PM
And a few of Morzan from Sunday. He's the skinniest of the three.
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His feeding day is later today, so I probably won't be handling him until Thursday, then this Friday I leave for Atlanta/Lawrenceville! I've got a friend coming along this time, and she's been wanting to meet the snakes, so we'll stop by here before heading out.
Snakesitter
04-06-16, 01:58 PM
Congrats on the new camera, and nice photos!
bigsnakegirl785
04-07-16, 09:35 PM
Well, I've decided to try cypress mulch instead of gambling on the added air holes being enough for the sphagnum moss. If this bedding works out better, I'll look into finding an equivalent bedding without the environmental impacts, and use that while they are in their tub set ups.
Morzan is still in a snappy mood. The food bulge is much smaller now, but still present, and he was slightly less inclined to bite. I was able to take him out of his tub without protest, but when I removed him from his holding container to put him in his tub, he nailed me right on the thumb. lol He wouldn't let me pick him up, and I didn't want to irritate and stress him by chasing his coils around the Tupperware, so I just dumped him gently onto his bed of moss. He landed on his back, but quickly flipped over to posture at me in a striking position. He wouldn't strike with the camera aimed at him, but he put in a few more swings when I put the camera away to replace the tub's top.
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Homura also took another swing at me today, this time it's because she fell off her favorite perch when I lifted up the top of the tub. She fell on her back, and she was clenching her stomach muscles so tightly it looked like a lung had imploded. >.> I reach for her and she snapped at me, but didn't land, and after that she calmed down and I picked her up. After she relaxed, her stomach went to normal. Poor girl was very startled, though. I did the same thing to Nymeria earlier this week, too, but she didn't strike, just wrinkled the back of her head and sat there with dilated pupils.
So it looks like Morzan is living up to the nippy reputation of baby rainbows, and although Homura is a bit more inclined to strike out than Sanji ever was, I don't really feel she's all that snappy.
Snakesitter
04-08-16, 02:09 PM
LOL! Babies can be little brats at times. ;-) The good news is that they calm down fast with regular, gentle handling, plus the passage of time. Well-acclimated adults rarely bite unless in feeding mode or startled.
bigsnakegirl785
04-08-16, 10:38 PM
LOL! Babies can be little brats at times. ;-) The good news is that they calm down fast with regular, gentle handling, plus the passage of time. Well-acclimated adults rarely bite unless in feeding mode or startled.
lol Yes they can be. I'll be taking it slow with him to avoid regurges and over-stressing him, but I'm sure he'll outgrow it with time. If he doesn't, rainbows don't get big and he's probably going to be tiny for quite awhile, so I'll just have to deal. :P
dannybgoode
04-09-16, 12:11 AM
Love that last photo. Great shot. They're coming on nicely BSG - going to be stunning adults...
bigsnakegirl785
04-15-16, 06:23 PM
So after several handling sessions of being bitey, I was able to take him out AND put him back in his tub without getting bit or snapped at. :P He didn't move around much, and was still on the defensive, though. With regular handling, he should become more comfortable.
He continues to digest and poop just fine, and no regurges yet!
He's covered in bits of cypress mulch and moss, and I didn't want to brush it off since he's still a bit nervous.
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He spent the last few minutes I had him out with his nose pushed into my palm like he was warning me he'd bite. lol But he was fairly calm compared to earlier handling sessions and didn't take much coaxing to get off my fingers when I put him up.
savannahs
04-15-16, 11:44 PM
I really love these snakes. I've always thought that the rainbow sheen is quite amazing. Do they typically have "bitey" personalities or is that more typical of the younger ones? That's good that yours is starting to get better with being handled.
bigsnakegirl785
04-16-16, 02:38 PM
I really love these snakes. I've always thought that the rainbow sheen is quite amazing. Do they typically have "bitey" personalities or is that more typical of the younger ones? That's good that yours is starting to get better with being handled.
Generally, it's the babies that are bitey. 2/3 of my current rainbows are docile, and my late rainbow never bit me but she was always on the defensive when I had her out.
I'm not sure he's getting better with being handled, because I hadn't handled him in about a week, between going to the Atlanta Repticon and letting him digest two meals, I think he just had a good day. lol We'll see how he behaves next time I take him out.
bigsnakegirl785
04-19-16, 07:31 PM
I took Homura out yesterday, and the lighting was perfect to really bring out her colors true to life. :)
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Lefitte
04-19-16, 11:19 PM
I loove her dark eyes in that bright head. So pretty! I bet she's spectacular in person.
As for bitey, that's their reputation but after being in groups for snakes I have to say that I see a whole lot more talk about kings biting and doing damage than I do BRBs [especially when you're talking adults, seems like all baby snakes are bitey haha]. I've had my BRB for around 9 months and today was only the third time he's tried to strike me and he's only tagged me once [which was so small that I could barely find the holes and wasn't entirely sure what even happened at first]. First time was during the first two weeks and he was very hungry, he went for my face. Not fun. Both the second and third time involved him being released and 'recaptured' which seems to be a pretty common time for BRB bites. Apparently his father is still the same way when it comes to being recaptured haha. Otherwise, my boy is sweet as a puppy. I can boop his nose, pet the top of his head, underside of his chin, walk around and gesture in conversation with him wrapped around my arm. I've taken him out in public and allowed people to touch him [mostly coworkers and snake-loving people] and he was cool with that too. I think it depends a lot on their attitudes and how much they're worked with. I was looking for a more docile baby in the hopes that with regular gentle handling that he would stay like that and it's worked out so far.
bigsnakegirl785
04-20-16, 07:51 PM
I loove her dark eyes in that bright head. So pretty! I bet she's spectacular in person.
As for bitey, that's their reputation but after being in groups for snakes I have to say that I see a whole lot more talk about kings biting and doing damage than I do BRBs [especially when you're talking adults, seems like all baby snakes are bitey haha]. I've had my BRB for around 9 months and today was only the third time he's tried to strike me and he's only tagged me once [which was so small that I could barely find the holes and wasn't entirely sure what even happened at first]. First time was during the first two weeks and he was very hungry, he went for my face. Not fun. Both the second and third time involved him being released and 'recaptured' which seems to be a pretty common time for BRB bites. Apparently his father is still the same way when it comes to being recaptured haha. Otherwise, my boy is sweet as a puppy. I can boop his nose, pet the top of his head, underside of his chin, walk around and gesture in conversation with him wrapped around my arm. I've taken him out in public and allowed people to touch him [mostly coworkers and snake-loving people] and he was cool with that too. I think it depends a lot on their attitudes and how much they're worked with. I was looking for a more docile baby in the hopes that with regular gentle handling that he would stay like that and it's worked out so far.
She is! The lighting was quite good for her colors that day, so these are almost identical to her real-life appearance. :)
Yeah, my oldest BRB (who will be 2 in August), has never been bitey. He's only bitten me once, when I unboxed him. Maybe twice, but I'm not sure the second time was a bite. I had his head to check his mouth a few weeks after my heater failed and the room was 54F for a good 8 hours, to check for signs of RI, and he started whipping around and turned his head and scraped his teeth against my finger. It didn't seem like a bite, but maybe it was just a really clumsy bite.
Homura has yet to bite me, but she's struck out in surprise twice. She's very docile, but has a really really sensitive head. Even just crawling over my hand and accidentally brushing her own head against one of my fingers causes her to violently recoil multiple times.
I've yet to be bitten by Homura or Nymeria, but Nymeria is the only one who hasn't so much as struck at me. All the others have bitten me at least once. haha (Draco I'm not too sure about, I don't remember him biting me but he probably has.)
Morzan is the only snake I've had that strikes out in defense rather than just utter surprise or irritation. I try to handle him less than the others because of his sensitive stomach, but I'm hoping to take him out again soon to work with him. The last handling session went quite well, so we'll see how it goes next time.
bigsnakegirl785
04-23-16, 03:22 PM
These two ate two days ago, so today I took them out so I could mix some EcoEarth in with the cypress mulch. It's such a pain to use the spray pump, and Homura's bedding dries out so quickly, I figured adding some EE to it will allow it to stay damp longer and the cypress mulch will hopefully allow the bedding to dry out before mold sets in. I can also pour a cup or two of water into the bedding rather than spraying one spot for 5 seconds and moving and inch to left to spray there for 5 seconds etc etc around the whole cage.
Here he is from the last handling session.
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A photo of him before offering him his mouse.
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And some of him eating.
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This handling session went well with Morzan, he didn't strike or bite me, although he was stiff as a board when I first brought him out. After about a minute, he relaxed and set his head to rest on my fingers.
These photos are from today, after I mixed his bedding and put him back up. That's what his bulge looks like after 2 days. Noticeable even in pictures, but barely, and almost gone. By tomorrow night, it should be hard to see in photos and barely noticeable in person.
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Homura also appears to be going into shed again! Her belly is looking flushed and her white walls are looking brown rather than white. Her oranges haven't washed out yet except in flash photos, so I'll keep an eye on her.
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She also was a bit less enthusiastic about taking her food than last time, and she behaved the same way last time I fed her and she was in shed. She gently took the mouse from the tongs and set a coil on top of it.
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bigsnakegirl785
04-28-16, 06:41 PM
Well so far, every other handling session with Morzan has gone well. I think for some reason he was just in a bad mood on those days.
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One of his stripey parts.
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Funky crescents.
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And after awhile, he actually began to explore rather than just sitting on my hand.
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Homura has also gone blue! So, my hunch was right, and she went in blue in time for her next scheduled meal, so I'll be holding off on feeding her for now. If she's in blue right now, she should shed by next weekend.
This was taken just the other night, but she didn't turn blue until this afternoon.
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bigsnakegirl785
05-01-16, 07:02 PM
Well Homura went blue the very next day! And right as I'm saying "at least all my snakes aren't going into shed together for once" Cloud, Bud, and Demigod all go blue on the same day. River recently shed and Homura is in shed.
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bigsnakegirl785
05-03-16, 10:03 PM
Last time I checked on Homura, to dampen her bedding, she had cleared up, so hopefully I'll be seeing a piece of skin in there later today or in the next few days!
In the meantime, I've been carefully checking up on Morzan to see if he's going into shed since his feeding day is tomorrow (Thursday since it's midnight now here).
He didn't appreciate me accidentally brushing his tail. I just see this white belly come up out of the bedding because he's contorting weirdly at my "disgusting" fingers touching him, and then his head pops up and he settled into position to watch me.
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bigsnakegirl785
05-12-16, 05:27 PM
Here's some post-shed photos of Homura (like 2-3 days after she shed but you know what I mean)! In person, she was looking very very pink! She's a lot more orange here than she was that day. The shade pics are closer to the colors she was showing, but I still couldn't capture much of her pink. :(
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Morzan looks like he's gone into shed, which means Sanji and Draco are the only ones I haven't seen signs of shed in yet.
bigsnakegirl785
05-20-16, 10:46 PM
Morzan went blue earlier this week, and shed the other day. I don't have any post-shed pics, but here he is in blue. :)
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bigsnakegirl785
05-26-16, 12:45 AM
Homura was giving me the stink eye when I took her out the other night.
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I wanted to take these guys out for a photo shoot since the weather has finally warmed back up again, but I literally slept the entire day. :( My next day off won't be until next Tuesday, so there won't be too many new pictures from this week.
bigsnakegirl785
06-14-16, 10:02 PM
After talking with Dave I had made an attempt to try to bump Morzan up to small hopper mice...it ended in failure. :( I gave him his regular-sized fuzzy mouse, waited 7 days and gave him a slightly larger fuzzy that he digested just fine, and then waited 10 days and offered him the largest fuzzy I had, but he ended up regurging 2-3 days later.
As of right now, I am ordering some NutriBAC, and I'll be giving him a pinky mouse next Tuesday or Wednesday. I am thinking I'll probably just have to stick to the small fuzzies for now, which is unfortunate.
I wanted to bump him because he looks very skinny and simply isn't gaining any weight. While empty, he hasn't lost or gained so much as a gram. When you pick him up and look at his belly, his ventral scales kind of hug the tips of his ribs, being concave on the sides and rounded in the very middle. It looks like this even when he's relaxed. I was worried about him slowly starving to death so I wanted to bump his prey size up so he'll be getting the food he needs.
The other day, he actually seemed to have filled out a little, his belly wasn't caved in anywhere and you couldn't see the scales on his side, even if he was clenching his stomach muscles.
I'm not sure if I should try to move him up again once he's recovered, but go much slower this time, or just stick to his regular size. :( It just sucks while he's this small, because there's maybe 2 grams of difference between the biggest and smallest fuzzy mouse, so I have very little leeway.
Lefitte
06-15-16, 01:21 AM
That sucks! I had a similar food issue recently and I thought I was going crazy. I moved both my king and rainboa up to medium mice. Which are bigger for the king and okay for the boa. So I thought fantastic! I bought the three pack to save a few cents right? It's been a month and they're still in the freezer. Went to feed them one night, pulled out the mouse and went "Oh no, I got the wrong size!" So I went to the store to buy the small mice and when I felt them and read the approximate weight of a single I was very confused. I shrugged and figured that must be wrong so I grabbed the medium again, but the singles in case I was wrong. Got home and realized they were called the same thing.. Weighed both. The single mediums were all 15g. The smallest mutlipack medium was 17g. My boa is 143g and 15g was pushing it for both of them. I think the next size down is 10-12g and I just felt like that wasn't quite doing it anymore now that it's warming up to summer and my king's no longer trying to brumate and my boa is reaching his yearling growth spurt.
My hognose has a similar problem. The fuzzies look too big for her tiny body but she's happily up to 3 pinkies at a time. Hate pinkies, can't wait for fuzzies.
Glad to hear that he's filled out. My king decided to reject fuzzies during her first winter and didn't grow at all. Scared the heck out of me. It was my first few months as a snake owner and people kept saying "oh yeah she can take fuzzies now" and "kings are garbage disposals!" and I'm looking at her regurged mouse going "I'm a terrible mother! What am I doing wrong?!" At least you know at least a little bit about what you're doing! I'm confident that he'll be fine with your care.
Snakesitter
06-15-16, 02:13 PM
I seem to have at least one baby a year with feeding issues. NutriBAC can often help them digest better, as can a *slightly* warmer hot spot. Try both of those and ever so slowly move up in size. Next time you order/buy food, explain your challenge and see if the seller can find you the right custom size of food. Good luck!
bigsnakegirl785
06-15-16, 02:48 PM
That sucks! I had a similar food issue recently and I thought I was going crazy. I moved both my king and rainboa up to medium mice. Which are bigger for the king and okay for the boa. So I thought fantastic! I bought the three pack to save a few cents right? It's been a month and they're still in the freezer. Went to feed them one night, pulled out the mouse and went "Oh no, I got the wrong size!" So I went to the store to buy the small mice and when I felt them and read the approximate weight of a single I was very confused. I shrugged and figured that must be wrong so I grabbed the medium again, but the singles in case I was wrong. Got home and realized they were called the same thing.. Weighed both. The single mediums were all 15g. The smallest mutlipack medium was 17g. My boa is 143g and 15g was pushing it for both of them. I think the next size down is 10-12g and I just felt like that wasn't quite doing it anymore now that it's warming up to summer and my king's no longer trying to brumate and my boa is reaching his yearling growth spurt.
My hognose has a similar problem. The fuzzies look too big for her tiny body but she's happily up to 3 pinkies at a time. Hate pinkies, can't wait for fuzzies.
Glad to hear that he's filled out. My king decided to reject fuzzies during her first winter and didn't grow at all. Scared the heck out of me. It was my first few months as a snake owner and people kept saying "oh yeah she can take fuzzies now" and "kings are garbage disposals!" and I'm looking at her regurged mouse going "I'm a terrible mother! What am I doing wrong?!" At least you know at least a little bit about what you're doing! I'm confident that he'll be fine with your care.
That size is what Big Cheese considers small adult mice, and that's the weight my home-raised mice reach right before they become weaned. lol Both Homura and Sanji are on small adult mice. I'm hoping Sanji gets big enough for jumbos soon but he's nowhere near big enough yet....The jumbos are huge next to his belly. He's not big enough for 2 small adult mice, either, and I really really prefer not doubling up prey anyways. :/
The funny thing is my 18 gram mice are much much smaller than Big Cheese's 18 gram mice. I think they have extra weight because of the milk in their bellies. I either have to separate them from mom a bit sooner or let them cycle out the milk before weighing them. That may not even make a difference though. lol
Morzan is so small and his regurge issues mean I'm not willing to chance giving him 2 mouse pinkies instead of a fuzzy, he'll eat whatever I put in front of him, it's just if it's too big he'll regurge it later. His threshold for prey size is much smaller than average. Sanji was already moved up to hoppers when he was only 5 grams heavier, but fuzzies are the most Morzan can take atm.
It's very strange that he's filled out, there was only two meals since the last time I saw his belly, and he regurged one of them. He's also become a lot more active, he comes out during the night to explore again, and for the first time since getting him, he actually crawled around in my hands. I'm not sure if these are good or bad signs. He's showing no signs of illness, but neither did Guin (beyond the weird stool and regurge). I was thinking of seeing how his next meal goes on Tuesday or Wednesday before deciding whether or not to take him to the vet. He hasn't dropped anything quite so scary as Guin died, but her illness was still rather invisible.
He remains non-bitey/strikey as well, so there's that I guess.
I seem to have at least one baby a year with feeding issues. NutriBAC can often help them digest better, as can a *slightly* warmer hot spot. Try both of those and ever so slowly move up in size. Next time you order/buy food, explain your challenge and see if the seller can find you the right custom size of food. Good luck!
I'll probably wait on getting the custom size until he shows signs of being able to take larger meals. There's very little variation in the weights of fuzzies, so we'd be talking about weight differentials below a gram, which can be caused by food remaining in the gut rather than size.
I'll go ahead separate the mice by weight I guess so I'll have a more exact range to work with. Before, I just picked out the smallest fuzzies in size, but I should be able to get at least 2-3 different weights to work with, separating them by 1 gram intervals.
I'll try those tips and see how it works. I can lay out a plan for review once I have all my fuzzies weighed and separated and I know what I'm working with.
Snakesitter
06-17-16, 05:04 PM
Good luck, and please let us know how we can help!
bigsnakegirl785
06-17-16, 09:16 PM
Well it seems I have fuzzies from 2 grams to 6 grams, so more of a range than I thought I'd have. He's going to get a pinky mouse with NutriBAC for his next two meals, and if he keeps both down I'll offer the 2 gram fuzzies for 2-3 meals, and then move up to the 3 gram fuzzies. I'm hoping I can max out at the 4 gram fuzzies and keep him there for awhile before I try to move him to anything larger again.
How long should I dust his food with NutriBAC? I'm assuming 2 meals should be plenty but I just want to make sure.
If he can stay on the 4 gram fuzzies for awhile, I'll offer him the 5 gram fuzzies until he finishes them off, before offering a 6 gram fuzzy. I think there's 5-8+ 5 gram fuzzies, I'll have to double check, I may just offer him 4-5 of the 5 gram fuzzies if he's got a bunch of them before offering a 6 gram.
Hopefully everything will go well and I won't see any more regurges, and hopefully my next plan will be slow enough he'll be able to take the bigger meals.
Snakesitter
06-20-16, 02:28 PM
I'd do it for the next month, and repeat every time you increase prey size for that first larger meal.
bigsnakegirl785
06-20-16, 09:31 PM
I'd do it for the next month, and repeat every time you increase prey size for that first larger meal.
I assume you're referring to the ReptiBAC? I'll be sure to do that, then. Hopefully we'll get him back on track here soon.
Homura continues to do well, I've got some days off soon so maybe I'll take her and a few of the others out for more pics here soon. I recently got her a magnetic plant to cover her hide a bit, and she's been hanging out under it. Haven't seen her climbing on it yet unfortunately.
Snakesitter
06-21-16, 02:04 PM
RepticBAC or NutriBAC, sorry?
bigsnakegirl785
06-21-16, 04:57 PM
NutriBAC, sorry. I somehow got NutriBAC and Reptivite mixed together in my mind
Snakesitter
06-22-16, 01:55 PM
LOL no worries. I was wondering if I'd missed a new product!
bigsnakegirl785
06-23-16, 05:16 PM
Well the NutriBAC took its sweet time getting here, and just got here today. I got expedited shipping and it still took the longest time possible. :/ Still, he's just a couple days late so I'm glad it got here this week.
He didn't want to take it at first, but I scented it by rubbing it on some mice in my little breeding group (they did NOT appreciate that lol) and he took it no problems after that. :) I'll be keeping an eye out for any regurges the next couple of days, but hopefully all will go smoothly.
Homura is also doing well. Unfortunately, her feeding day fell on one of my days off so I won't be able to take her out until tomorrow or Monday, depending on how much time I have before work.
Snakesitter
06-24-16, 02:00 PM
Congrats on a successful feeding, and fingers crossed it works!
bigsnakegirl785
07-07-16, 10:17 PM
So far everything is going well with Morzan, and judging by this photo he may be going into shed. He's taken 3 pinkies in a row so far, and I plan on giving him 1-2 more feedings at this size before stepping him up.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7577/27549256783_0fa9a016f2_b.jpg
Last time I fed Homura, I thought she was going into shed because she wasn't as enthusiastic about food as usual, which is a sure sign she's shedding based of previous shed cycles. But, I never saw her go blue so I thought I was wrong. Nope! Right after feeding her today (yesterday), she left me a nice gnarly rainbow poop, and a shed right next to it, that I found when I got off work. :)
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7628/28060525732_de00e2c662_b.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7628/27548779334_b46f2c6624_b.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
07-13-16, 11:21 PM
In the photo I posted above, I had a sneaky suspicion a shed cycle was coming on, and I was right! He went blue a few days later, and he's now starting to exit his blue phase. :) Hopefully I can get some pics of Homura later today, if we aren't out all day again.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/5439925ed46022aeed3d8e0fc0c1ea83/tumblr_oaah2uPXzo1sjttato4_1280.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
07-19-16, 09:51 PM
Homura after a nice meal. :)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8288/27808072043_b81045e5fb_b.jpg
So far, Morzan has taken ~4 meals without a regurge, so I'm going to step him up to 3 gram fuzzies and see how does. He continues to be active, I had him out to switch him to Sanji's old tub, and he was just zooming around. Actually crawling around, I really hope this means he has more energy. He's always just sat in one place, hardly moving around when I handled him.
bigsnakegirl785
07-22-16, 04:17 PM
Tomorrow is Morzan's next feeding day, I'll be trying him on a 3 gram fuzzy mouse. He also seems to have gone back to being concave from a month of eating pinkies. I had him out to dampen his bedding, and took the opportunity to provide visuals of what I'm talking about. The part towards his tail is so caved in I'm getting so worried about him, it really sucks having to go as slow as I am with his food because I just want him to get up to a healthy weight. :( He sheds every month and poops nicely, but he lost 3 grams from all this time eating pinkies and the regurge, and he worries me so much.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8831/28195982030_f33c399a2b_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8613/28400685591_629e40cab5_b.jpg
Homura on the other hand continues to grow well, and has put on 51 grams since getting her in March, and is sitting at 175 grams. She'll probably be ready for medium adult mice really soon.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8868/28479355495_cddcd34fa5_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8193/28400690081_84cc451840_b.jpg
Ian of Oldham
07-23-16, 12:38 AM
Looking good Looking very good.
0.1.1 Royals 1.0 Corn 1.0 Boa 1.0 Carpet. and a mad Cat
toddnbecka
07-23-16, 11:16 PM
Love the contrast between them, particularly the bright oranges on Homura.
Snakesitter
07-25-16, 02:24 PM
Has anyone suggested you sprinkle a reptile digestive aid on Morzan's meals? It might help.
Ian of Oldham
07-25-16, 04:50 PM
How many rescues do you have, do you help the ones that people do not want or just do not give a sh-- so long as you get what you want, sad very sad.
bigsnakegirl785
07-25-16, 06:09 PM
Has anyone suggested you sprinkle a reptile digestive aid on Morzan's meals? It might help.
Yup, if you read earlier on in the thread he's been having all his meals thus far coated in ReptiBark. You commented about it, too, but I think you may have lost track (it's baby season so I'm sure you've got more important stuff on your mind). ;)
How many rescues do you have, do you help the ones that people do not want or just do not give a sh-- so long as you get what you want, sad very sad.
Uh...did you comment on the wrong thread? I don't own a single rescue.
Snakesitter
07-27-16, 01:56 PM
Wups, I did -- my bad and apologies. And lol, yes we are getting *really* close to the end of my social life. ;-)
bigsnakegirl785
07-27-16, 02:09 PM
Wups, I did -- my bad and apologies. And lol, yes we are getting *really* close to the end of my social life. ;-)
I also like how I said ReptiBark instead of ReptiBAC. lmao You can see my mind isn't always in the best of places.
Hey, who needs a social life when you have heaping piles of snake babies?
Snakesitter
07-28-16, 02:05 PM
Too true!!!! ;-)
bigsnakegirl785
09-01-16, 11:33 PM
Homura continues to do well and grow! Soon enough she should be large enough for medium mice! My mice had a surprise litter (apparently missexed a few), so I plan on growing these ones up to medium adult mouse size for her, rather than jumbos.
She's still just as bright as the day she got here, so hopefully she doesn't dull out too much as an adult! She'll be 15 months old at end of the month.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/5bcb7eeec99cb767ba989fdf927780c5/tumblr_ocuxtbpt1A1sjttato1_1280.jpg
https://67.media.tumblr.com/7db698d3a4839db5ebc7844b20923b49/tumblr_ocuxtbpt1A1sjttato2_1280.jpg
Morzan continues to do about the same. Last Tues I attempted to feed him, he took and ate his 3 gram fuzzy like normal, but regurged later that day. I had suspected he was going into shed, but with him losing weight I didn't want to wait the 2+ weeks it would take for him to finish his shed cycle. If that was the cause, then clearly I have no choice. He does not have the energy to keep up with a shed cycle and digesting a meal. I will offer him another 3 gram fuzzy when he's done shedding, and if he continues to keep his next few meals down I'll move him to a 6 day schedule and potentially a 5 day schedule eventually. I'm worried he's not getting enough food eating these small meals spaced a full week apart, but I still have to go slow with him. It's amazing he still manages to shed every month eating the way he does.
https://67.media.tumblr.com/177d9cf11e50cebeaec487fc3fbf23a2/tumblr_ocuxn3ZVoz1sjttato1_1280.jpg
dannybgoode
09-02-16, 01:28 AM
Just gorgeous BSG. I thought (acne I've told my wife) that I'd be able to stop at 3 or 4 snakes but then people keep reminding me what I'd be missing out on.
Now I'm not saying I'll reach the lofty numbers some of the others on here have but I think 8-10 is possibly a more realistic expectation!
Albert Clark
09-02-16, 03:49 PM
Most times a snake will undergo multiple sheds if they are injured and or unwell. Can you possibly get a stool sample analyzed?
bigsnakegirl785
09-02-16, 09:16 PM
Most times a snake will undergo multiple sheds if they are injured and or unwell. Can you possibly get a stool sample analyzed?
He's only shedding once a month, that's pretty average, so I haven't seen a real need to get him checked out unless his condition worsens.
From what the breeder tells me, his condition is congenital, so I'm not sure a stool sample would help much but if he continues to decline I may do so.
bigsnakegirl785
09-07-16, 04:56 PM
Well Morzan shed Sat or Sun and I fed him yesterday. So far, he's holding down his food so I really do think it's just because he didn't have the energy to digest and shed. I'll continue to keep an eye on him just in case. I pretty much just lift his hides looking for a regurge and then leave him alone.
He took a lot of convincing this time and wouldn't eat the mouse until I have washed off the NutriBAC and let it sit in warm water for a couple minutes. Spent 30 minutes trying to convince him to eat and then he did. I'm going to start over the count with the 3 gram fuzzies before I try a 4 gram fuzzy, and I'll just have to not offer food next time he goes into shed. I really hope he moves up to 4 gram fuzzies easily, and hopefully 5 grams, I dare not hope for 6 grams, but he really needs to get some food in him and put on some weight.
Homura is doing the same, she continues to grow and remains the more active of the 3 rainbows, although last time I had Sanji out he was quite the adventurer! Climbed up on my shoulders and on my ponytail. He's getting so long now that I can easily figure out where he is even if I can't see him.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7510/28904785804_c10113865c_b.jpg
Snakesitter
09-07-16, 07:53 PM
Good progress report!
bigsnakegirl785
09-16-16, 06:56 PM
As a small update, Morzan has taken a second meal since the second regurge and has kept it down so far. Once again he was a pain to get eating, much easier than last time. I just had to jump the mouse up and down on his back until he was pissed enough to pop his head up out of the bedding like a cobra and strike it, and ended up coiling at the same time.
Homura is currently in a shed cycle, I thought she was in the last photo I posted but I'm still not 100% confident in my abilities with her yet so didn't mention. But, lo and behold a few days later she was blue. ^.^
bigsnakegirl785
09-21-16, 02:20 AM
With the negatives going on with Morzan here's another update on Homura. She shed the other day and weighed in at 189 grams today so I gave her the biggest baby from the surprise litter fresh-killed, he was 19 grams. She's officially been started on medium adult mice! She's just on the smaller end for now, but should grow into them quickly. I have 3 others that still need to put on some size but they should hold her over.
She has nothing weird going on with her skin and is totally healthy. lol I'll try to do an update on Sanji when he sheds.
dannybgoode
09-21-16, 09:43 AM
Good news re Homura. Always nice when they're progressing as intended.
I'm rooting for morzan also, he's a sweet little snake so hopefully the scale issue turns out to be temporary.
bigsnakegirl785
10-09-16, 04:33 PM
I realized I never posted these! Homura has grown a lot in the 6 or 7 months I've had her. She's nearly Sanji's size, and he's 10 months older. I'd have to get recent weights on them, but as of their last weights she's only about 70 grams behind him, but in person he's clearly much longer yet.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/8386067906512eb6c32acffcfa238650/tumblr_oe3mh4yAHu1sjttato5_1280.jpg
http://67.media.tumblr.com/0a45a7eaffce0533ef6860700ac7621f/tumblr_oe3mh4yAHu1sjttato4_1280.jpg
http://67.media.tumblr.com/ae796614682f78e0f3edc6cfd5aa6744/tumblr_oe3mh4yAHu1sjttato3_1280.jpg
http://66.media.tumblr.com/ae9e6f1c182f7f7e99b357fea6e5f4c4/tumblr_oe3mh4yAHu1sjttato2_1280.jpg
Vs when I got her in March:
http://67.media.tumblr.com/4b36113769a0fe5e2ddb60e647cfc9d2/tumblr_oegra89P9c1sjttato4_1280.jpg
Her color has lost the pinkish look to it, but she's still a highlighter orange. I've found the Canon is just more prone to the red spectrum so she looks darker orange than she really is using flash. Unfortunately there won't be many chances for natural lighting now that the weather is too cold to take them out.
I'll be updating on Morzan in his other thread while I'm waiting to see if he recovers and makes it through this rough patch.
bigsnakegirl785
11-01-16, 03:15 PM
Homura weighed in at 193 grams last week, and I had her out for a few pics. Her feeding day is a bit late as I've been sick but I should be able to give her a mouse today. She's growing quite nicely, she's outstripped Sanji's growth, but hasn't caught up to his size yet. Especially since Sanji has hit his biggest growth spurt yet. haha
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5702/30719059545_977aeab077_h.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5511/30418449300_f101487208_h.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
11-22-16, 11:11 PM
Some more of Homura, no recent measurements, but she gets bigger by the day. Still in her gangly teenager phase, but once she's on jumbo mice/weaned rats she should put on girth if Sanji is anything to go off of.
I've been trying to get some sunlight shots by the windows, but the sky is always so dark from all the smoke lately all I have are these crummy flash photos, and they do not compliment her in the slightest. Just look at the flash vs sunlight photos throughout the thread. Gonna have to wait until spring. *sigh* In the meantime, we're all going to have to wish for rain because these fires are just ridiculous. They'd be easier to contain if everything wasn't so dry.
Some photos with light vs dark background to try to pinpoint her colors to no avail. At least in the second one you can still somewhat tell she's a nice vibrant hypo. lol
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5836/30752667870_4cec71a182_h.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5503/30752669730_669ad12ab4_h.jpg
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https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5832/31119929615_2bd2987594_h.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
12-12-16, 12:21 AM
Homura is yet another snake to go into shed.
http://i.imgur.com/oocHf10.jpg
In this photo you can actually see the milkiness, she's starting to go out of blue which is why the camera is having a hard time picking it up.
http://i.imgur.com/RdCnK8a.jpg
Snakesitter
12-14-16, 07:06 AM
Very nice as always!
bigsnakegirl785
01-08-17, 10:33 PM
I don't think I took post-shed pics but here's a photo from the other day. :)
https://68.media.tumblr.com/16aa45129332555fe747d1b94d7cf975/tumblr_ojhw15TAIn1sjttato1_1280.jpg
Tsubaki
01-09-17, 12:30 PM
Cute picture :D
bigsnakegirl785
01-25-17, 06:50 PM
I borrowed my mom's Nikon to photograph some of the paler snakes, and to make Homura look less brown. She's still a very nice pale, bright hypo. :)
I fed her this morning so she's got a bump. Apparently having just her food bulge laying above ground is the most comfortable position for her.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/67d2c071fd6a4c96f17859070778f248/tumblr_okd1mcuCeT1sjttato1_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/9aee36a5f503a4ebb1fe196c9d3bcfdf/tumblr_okd1mcuCeT1sjttato4_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/e40b09351201df4e612459a66a44b85a/tumblr_okd1mcuCeT1sjttato3_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/37dee98bb8ab2d9fafa3214f40bfc2ac/tumblr_okd1mcuCeT1sjttato2_1280.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
02-10-17, 03:36 PM
Some more of Homura. If she looks this good indoors I cannot wait to get her out in the sun again. I woke up today to a summer sunlight and was thrown completely off. It's still not above 60 today, but it looks like it should be! Hopefully by end of next month we'll be warm enough I can take some snakes out.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/322/32377918800_ddda1564a4_h.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/640/32377923920_ffe3ded022_h.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
04-04-17, 10:07 PM
Homura is now around 220 grams, reliably eating medium adult mice.
Her white walls, taken last month.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/6148f0dd71895431ed6e8601b795e817/tumblr_onx4l4T0v91sjttato1_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/14b7b14138e424cebffa5952388d3547/tumblr_onx4l4T0v91sjttato2_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/8d11ef32dd95a606d12130586c5c4bad/tumblr_onx4l4T0v91sjttato4_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/4ca7347cce09eacf81f165dc2e85c1e7/tumblr_onx4l4T0v91sjttato5_1280.jpg
And some from yesterday, since it was finally warm on a day I had off.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/5086df04f08fd57562fde6d838714643/tumblr_onws3xf9gn1sjttato8_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/543250c8faf3c0af3650cb19b9a2708c/tumblr_onws3xf9gn1sjttato1_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/8aba4377a217fa337f0adf1f191d1770/tumblr_onws3xf9gn1sjttato2_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/7b4830b17b9666083fabf290f09614cf/tumblr_onws3xf9gn1sjttato4_1280.jpg
bigsnakegirl785
04-04-17, 10:09 PM
The rest of the photos from yesterday's shoot. She quickly got dried out so she didn't spend long outside, but she did get a short excursion in the grass. She slid right off my hand as soon as she felt the grass. lol I need to start taking her out more and get her used to me again.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/b06748c98d63ba1e686ae1d2cdb4ba93/tumblr_onws3xf9gn1sjttato7_1280.jpg
https://68.media.tumblr.com/4dd7cab9ca4c84306a655a42f83af971/tumblr_onws3xf9gn1sjttato9_1280.jpg
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