Another one bites the dust/snake ID help

[sam]

Our cat killed a young snake this morning, I think it's an Eastern brown. What do you guys think? I'd go and rant about cats but I've already been over that in my other thread.

Keep your cats indoors.

This is a top view, our cat mutilated it pretty bad, no idea where the head's gone, maybe the cat swallowed it.
http://s23.postimg.org/5jfw8xror/gw4_HQwd.jpg

Bottom view, I'd get a picture of the vent scales but they're too chewed up to recognise.
http://s23.postimg.org/my04h7otn/l_CTc_T8p.jpg

On a brighter note, Bowie has sloughed, and looks the best Ive ever seen him.
http://s2.postimg.org/erk9nr1ft/z44pr_E0.jpg

[jpsteele80]

Couldn't tell you but damn that cat, btw that carpet is looking good :D

[Herpo]

Great looking carpet! I dont think your cat ate the bead, they often hunt for sport, so he may have stored it somewhere.

[sam]

Thanks Jpsteele and Herpo, It wouldn't surprise me if the rest of it is buried somewhere, waiting for us to step on haha.
I've tried to keep him indoors, but I can't convince my parents to do so. I should keep a tally of how much wildlife we catch him with. So far he's gotten 1 native per week, such a shame.

[Kokorobosoi]

There was a study awhile back that proofed cats are the only animals aside from humans that hunt not because they are hungry, but for sport. And they only bring back a third of what they kill.

On the other side, they suspect the cats bring stuff back to you guys because they think you can't hunt and don't want you to starve. So in a way, it's love. Disdainful love, but love nonetheless.

Beautiful carpet btw!

[dannybgoode]

I don't think can say cats hunt for sport. That would be anthropomorphising. We do not why some cats hunt but don't eat their kill.

It may look like sport to us but we cannot say that is why cats do it.

Plus, as per the other thread on cats there is increasing evidence that a well fed cat doesn't kill nearly as much as previously thought.

But hey, let's continue the debate in that thread rather than have two simultaneously... :)

[Herpo]

Danny, it has actually been proven that cats hunt for sport in order to hone skills, especially as kittens.

I'm not attacking you by the way, your correct about keeping the threads separate. We had two of these on APS a while back, both turned incredibly ugly!

[dannybgoode]

But it's not sport. That's learning survival skills. We simply cannot apply human terms like sport to any animal. But yeah, we'll keep it civil :)

[AwesomeGuy376]

Yea I'm pretty sure its for survival skills, my aunt kept cats all her life and they'd bring dead mice all the time :P Poor snake though, sad to see it. RIP Unknown snake :( ????-2016

[sam]

I'm not sure but I feel that even if a cat were hunting to 'hone its skills' it would still at least eat it's prey instead of terrorising it until it dies then discarding it.

Danny is right though we should keep the debate in the other thread.

[Kokorobosoi]

Whoops didn't mean to bring all that over here. My bad.

Rip little snake