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Minkness
12-15-15, 06:58 PM
I really want to produce some top notch BELs but have heard and read some things that I'd like to clear up. First of all there's so many different types of BELs from the white wedding, diamond, super lesser, specials, ect.

What combo makes the whitest with the least amount of issues (like bug eyes or duck bills or nuro issues)

Aaron_S
12-16-15, 12:36 PM
Super mojaves seem to have the least problems.

To be honest, there seemingly is no perfectly white snake. Many people claim certain combos are whiter but then I've seen some with yellow stripes down the back or different tones. Like the karma and karma 2.0. I think the super lesser MAY be the cleanest to date though.

Albert Clark
12-16-15, 12:51 PM
You should also start with quality parentage as well to ensure the genetic selection is passed on. Take the time to shop for exquisite specimens to pair up.

Minkness
12-16-15, 01:32 PM
And how can I tell what an 'exquisite' specimen is?

As for super mojos, I don't consider them pure white as most I have seen have that purple head marking.

I know that super fires also get yellow splotches and diamonds have an interesting rainbow effect (at least the one I saw in person did anyway).

Aaron_S
12-16-15, 01:40 PM
And how can I tell what an 'exquisite' specimen is?

As for super mojos, I don't consider them pure white as most I have seen have that purple head marking.

I know that super fires also get yellow splotches and diamonds have an interesting rainbow effect (at least the one I saw in person did anyway).

"exquisite" specimen is subjective.

For me the animal has to fit my project. If I want really busy pattern animals then I buy a busier pattern animal but someone else would consider it less exquisite because they want reduced animals in their projects.

Albert Clark
12-16-15, 02:05 PM
You will have to shop around for a exquisite specimen. It will be apparent to you and people around you once you are looking at a animal that has superior coloration and vivid patterning. Most of all, you will be excited by the specimen. Use worlldofballpythons as a baseline and look for other breeders that have pictures for you to peruse. True "exquisite" is subjective but certain animals just stand out as representative of the morph.

RAD House
12-16-15, 04:22 PM
Super mojaves seem to have the least problems.

To be honest, there seemingly is no perfectly white snake. Many people claim certain combos are whiter but then I've seen some with yellow stripes down the back or different tones. Like the karma and karma 2.0. I think the super lesser MAY be the cleanest to date though.

I have heard all white pieds are incredibly white and fairly problem free. Granted they are impossible to predict and certainly do not have blue eyes.

Minkness
12-16-15, 04:25 PM
I like the blackneyed versions too, but I have never seen or heard of an all white pied, which probably means MEGA expensive.

Aaron_S
12-16-15, 04:51 PM
I have heard all white pieds are incredibly white and fairly problem free. Granted they are impossible to predict and certainly do not have blue eyes.

Good point. I forgot about the pied combos.

I like the blackneyed versions too, but I have never seen or heard of an all white pied, which probably means MEGA expensive.

Not necessarily true. Pied tends to dominate combos, like spider, at best you see the head pattern. Otherwise it's all white. They aren't that expensive anymore.

Minkness
12-16-15, 05:07 PM
Well, even if they have a head marking, those aren't 'all' white. Good to know though!

My favorite pieds are the axantic and 'panda' pied...I'm sure they havefancier names than that, but yeah...black and white or silver and white <3