Round out my collection

[trailblazer295]

Hey girls and guys

I've really enjoyed holding a thin small snake while Banzai is just a noodle. Eventually he will grow up to be a big boy. So I'm looking for a snake to round off my collection. A big boa, medium BP and a ?. Considered hogs, a childrens python but would like other suggestions. Looking for a slim bodied snake. I've always liked the milk snake colours and how they mimic coral snakes. But I don't like the musking part. I'd rather get bitten then sprayed. Are milks really like that? Any other suggestions?

I have a exo terra human skull and want to see the snake slither out of it lol

[Minkness]

Hognose all the wayyyyy!!!

[trailblazer295]

Lol a none super biased suggestion

[Minkness]

Not biased....just...er...highly educated suggestions!

[Jim Smith]

I find that the Milk Snake calm down fairly quickly and stop musking after a month or so. I can't remember the last time I've been musked or even had one of mine attempt top bite me. If you want a thin bodied snake, I don't think you can get much thinner than one of the vine snakes. My issue with them is that many of them seem to only want to eat lizards and I like lizards too much to use them as a food item.

[Aaron_S]

Hey girls and guys

I've really enjoyed holding a thin small snake while Banzai is just a noodle. Eventually he will grow up to be a big boy. So I'm looking for a snake to round off my collection. A big boa, medium BP and a ?. Considered hogs, a childrens python but would like other suggestions. Looking for a slim bodied snake. I've always liked the milk snake colours and how they mimic coral snakes. But I don't like the musking part. I'd rather get bitten then sprayed. Are milks really like that? Any other suggestions?

I have a exo terra human skull and want to see the snake slither out of it lol

Pick the right milk snake and it's less likely to happen.

Hondurans and sinoloans I found to be less likely to musk. Those two are also the larger milk snakes. You could go back to the mexican black kingsnake.

[trailblazer295]

I had a vine snake once. As cool as they are not ready to do that again. That one was on rodents and no source of feeder lizards near me. Maybe one day I'll try again with a vine.

[trailblazer295]

Pick the right milk snake and it's less likely to happen.

Hondurans and sinoloans I found to be less likely to musk. Those two are also the larger milk snakes. You could go back to the mexican black kingsnake.

It crossed my mind, males are hard to come by. Waited months with no luck.

[Aaron_S]

It crossed my mind, males are hard to come by. Waited months with no luck.

Here's a list of snakes you may consider.

Rough green snakes
grey banded king snakes
Spotted python
Rosy boa
Corn snake

etc. etc.

[trailblazer295]

Here's a list of snakes you may consider.

Rough green snakes
grey banded king snakes
Spotted python
Rosy boa
Corn snake

etc. etc.

Didn't I ask you where to get a grey banded king before and stumped you?

[EL Ziggy]

King snakes are a lot of fun to keep. A Speckled King or MBK would be a nice addition.

[Aaron_S]

Didn't I ask you where to get a grey banded king before and stumped you?

Maybe. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try again! I actually have a place now :P See I did my own homework!

[trailblazer295]

Maybe. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try again! I actually have a place now :P See I did my own homework!

Good man, if you have a place to find one then we definitely need to talk.

[Aaron_S]

Good man, if you have a place to find one then we definitely need to talk.

No problem-o.

[Minkness]

Aaron, are you getting my PMs?

[Aaron_S]

Aaron, are you getting my PMs?

Yes, yes I am.

[reptiledude987]

ive had a few milks in my day and never been musked once. any king is a good chioce as well. I love grey bands as well. check out port credit pets theyre close to you and have a good selection. theres an expo coming on this month. next weekend actually!

[Aaron_S]

ive had a few milks in my day and never been musked once. any king is a good chioce as well. I love grey bands as well. check out port credit pets theyre close to you and have a good selection. theres an expo coming on this month. next weekend actually!

Port Credit no longer has a store front.

[trailblazer295]

ive had a few milks in my day and never been musked once. any king is a good chioce as well. I love grey bands as well. check out port credit pets theyre close to you and have a good selection. theres an expo coming on this month. next weekend actually!
Looks like im going to an expo. You mean the one at downsview?

[Aaron_S]

Unfortunately I have to be make an appearance I think.

[toddnbecka]

Definitely go to the expo, theyre the best place to find snakes IME. One other option you might consider would be an Irian Jaya carpet python. They don't musk, are relatively thin-bodied, and pure IJ are one of the smallest locales for adult size.

[Minkness]

Hmmmm....I would approve of an IJ =D

[trailblazer295]

Lol looking for a smaller thin snake then a carpet. So far grey banded king tops the list.

[Minkness]

Piffft....hognose

[SnoopySnake]

Beauty snakes?

[Minkness]

He's looking for something that will stay under 4 feet and stay more like a noodle. If I remember correctly, somthing that can live it's life out in a 10 gallon or 20 gallon long tank.

Thus....HOGNOSE! Or a male garter snake....those neon calis are super nice....

[trailblazer295]

I'll allow my representive to clarify

[trailblazer295]

I'll be going to the expo Saturday morning to see what I find.

[Aaron_S]

I'll be going to the expo Saturday morning to see what I find.

I've bailed.

[trailblazer295]

I've bailed.

Quitter lol

[reptiledude987]

I've bailed.

BOOOOOO was hoping to finally put a face to the man.

Ill be there as well TB not sure what time but I will be there on saturday.

[trailblazer295]

BOOOOOO was hoping to finally put a face to the man.

Ill be there as well TB not sure what time but I will be there on saturday.

Cool text me when you're there. I better get in before you clean house lol

[reptiledude987]

Dont know that Ill be buying anything this time. I just like to go and look. If something catches my eye I have multiple setups of varing sizes ready to go. So anything is possible. Ill probably spend my time at the PCP table as Im good for ball pythons which is almost every other vendor there lol

[Aaron_S]

Quitter lol

BOOOOOO was hoping to finally put a face to the man.

Ill be there as well TB not sure what time but I will be there on saturday.

My supplier isn't going any longer! Blame that guy!

[reptiledude987]

My supplier isn't going any longer! Blame that guy!

Dosent mean that you cant make an apparence...

[Aaron_S]

Dosent mean that you cant make an apparence...

Yes, yes it does.

[reptiledude987]

lol theres never any winning with you*smh*

[trailblazer295]

Dont know that Ill be buying anything this time. I just like to go and look. If something catches my eye I have multiple setups of varing sizes ready to go. So anything is possible. Ill probably spend my time at the PCP table as Im good for ball pythons which is almost every other vendor there lol

Exactly I'm looking for odd harder to find small kings or something along those lines which you might snap up. It's the rare and oddball stuff you'll go for before me.

[Aaron_S]

lol theres never any winning with you*smh*

One day! lol

I normally don't go to the shows unless I need to. You'll catch me at one of them!

[Minkness]

Aaron just likes being an online entity. Lol

I wish I had a con coming up...next kne for me is in May, and I'll be full swing house hunting then, so most likely won't even go.

[Aaron_S]

Aaron just likes being an online entity. Lol

I wish I had a con coming up...next kne for me is in May, and I'll be full swing house hunting then, so most likely won't even go.

I'm a real person! I swear!

[trailblazer295]

Aren't you supposed to wait until AFTER the move? You'll crack soon enough.

[trailblazer295]

I'm a real person! I swear!

I think other mods should be contacted, I suspect he is a well programmed BOT who has infiltrated the site.

[Aaron_S]

I think other mods should be contacted, I suspect he is a well programmed BOT who has infiltrated the site.

Jokes on you! The other mods have less access to technology than me AND have more important matters in real life to deal with.

All you suckers are stuck with me!

[trailblazer295]

Are kings usually cage active or pretty shy?

[Aaron_S]

Are kings usually cage active or pretty shy?

Diurnal snakes tend to be fairly active in the enclosures.

[trailblazer295]

Ok good I thought kings were. Mink was trying to convince me kings were shy unlike Hogs. Biased information lol

[Bandit]

I find Kings to be fairly active. Unbiased opinion here - I think a king would be a good addition based on what you wanted. They don't get too big, generally pretty laid-back from the beginning, crazy feeding response, and are very handleable. At work, I love dealing with our Kings (currently only have 3). They are always a pleasure to deal with.

[EL Ziggy]

My Cal King is pretty active. My MBK is a bit shy.

[Minkness]

In my defence, I was not being biased at the time of that converaation, merely stating my personal experience with the 1 kingsnake I had for a year and almost NEVER saw. If that is more of an MBK trait, then I clearly had the wrong kind of kingsnake...

However ALL of my hoggies are out and about, lay out in the open, cruise their tanks or tubs alot, and seem alot more willing to be out and active with me than my kingsnake had been.

That may make me biased, but it is bias on personal expereince. =P

[Bandit]

In my opinion, you really can't go wrong with either. It just comes down to which one you want more because their overall level of care is about the same and they are both smaller snakes.

[trailblazer295]

In my defence, I was not being biased at the time of that converaation, merely stating my personal experience with the 1 kingsnake I had for a year and almost NEVER saw. If that is more of an MBK trait, then I clearly had the wrong kind of kingsnake...

However ALL of my hoggies are out and about, lay out in the open, cruise their tanks or tubs alot, and seem alot more willing to be out and active with me than my kingsnake had been.

That may make me biased, but it is bias on personal expereince. =P

LOL your push for me getting a Hog is well documented. If you could everyone would have one.

In my opinion, you really can't go wrong with either. It just comes down to which one you want more because their overall level of care is about the same and they are both smaller snakes.

Right now grey banded king tops my list. Small size, cool colours, good feeder.

Locating one would be the harder part.

[Bandit]

That's where my advice ends, unfortunately. I'm not aware of any breeders. I see them at expos every now and then, but that's about it.

[reptiledude987]

Dont worry buddy we will find you a nice king at the expo on saturday. ;)

[Minkness]

Nuuuu....Hoggie!

[trailblazer295]

Dont worry buddy we will find you a nice king at the expo on saturday. ;)

Thanks for the support bud. You can take a picture of me and the new addition to send to Mink. Take another as I walk by a table of hogs.

[reptiledude987]

Lmao I can do that

[Minkness]

Such meanies!

I don't even know why I care so much....BUT I DOOOO!!!

[Bandit]

I don't blame ya. I have nothing against hogs, but there are soooo many species I'd want before them. Not sure why, just personal preference I guess. I would've gone with the King too.

[trailblazer295]

Having a BP that goes" nah screw you not eating this week. I'm just going to look at it with interest" is enough. Don't really want 2 doing that. Rarely hear of a healthy king in a good cage that refuses.

[reptiledude987]

In minks defense my hoggie is my small food item garbage disposal. Shes a pig! But sounds like youre more inclined to go for a king so do what works for you.

[trailblazer295]

Some hogs are good feeders just like some BPs but some also aren't. Most of Minks hogs are good feeders. But kings are safer bet and I like the colours better.

[reptiledude987]

im feeling really tempted by a red milk of some sort. feel the need for some nice deep red! Ive got every other color even blue/purple with my file snake so I will probably be looking at some reds.

[Minkness]

I do agree on the colors. Some kings are suuuuuper pretty, and alot of hogs look the same in varying colors and as far as I know, only 3 pattern variations.

BUT HOGS ARE ADORABLE!!!

[reptiledude987]

I do agree on the colors. Some kings are suuuuuper pretty, and alot of hogs look the same in varying colors and as far as I know, only 3 pattern variations.

BUT HOGS ARE ADORABLE!!!

Have you seen the tri color hoggies?

[Aaron_S]

Thanks for the support bud. You can take a picture of me and the new addition to send to Mink. Take another as I walk by a table of hogs.

Photoshop the kingsnake eating a hognose.

[Minkness]

Yes, and they aren't bad by any means. To me they actually look like a kingsnake pattern lol. But they aren't as easy to get a hold of and if I remember correctly they get bigger than a western. There are alot of other hognose speices out there, but westerns are the easiest to get and, depending on what you get and from who, theu are very affordable. My 1st male was only 40$ at a con while online even a normal male aas over 100$ plus shipping. The other hoggs I got as rescues so they don't really count lol.

I'd love to add a superconda to my collection (preferably female for the size) but they are still too expensive for me since I'm saving for that house. =)

[Minkness]

Photoshop the kingsnake eating a hognose.

This is why some people have strongly negative opinions of you ;-;

No reason to be mean...

[trailblazer295]

Hogs have that upturned face I'll give you that.

[trailblazer295]

Photoshop the kingsnake eating a hognose.

I don't have photoshop anymore. I could if I had it.

[Aaron_S]

This is why some people have strongly negative opinions of you ;-;

No reason to be mean...

I'm adorable! No one should have negative opinions of me.

[Sylphie]

Yes, and they aren't bad by any means. To me they actually look like a kingsnake pattern lol. But they aren't as easy to get a hold of and if I remember correctly they get bigger than a western. There are alot of other hognose speices out there, but westerns are the easiest to get and, depending on what you get and from who, theu are very affordable. My 1st male was only 40$ at a con while online even a normal male aas over 100$ plus shipping. The other hoggs I got as rescues so they don't really count lol.

I'd love to add a superconda to my collection (preferably female for the size) but they are still too expensive for me since I'm saving for that house. =)

They are not bigger, from what I remmeber they are smaller than western hoggies, but they are definitely more expensive.

I would recommend Russian Rats, but they are too big, so I would go for a king snake of some sort too! I like hoggies, but they are worse with eating than balls, and that's something, haha :D

[Bandit]

They are not bigger, from what I remmeber they are smaller than western hoggies, but they are definitely more expensive.

I would recommend Russian Rats, but they are too big, so I would go for a king snake of some sort too! I like hoggies, but they are worse with eating than balls, and that's something, haha :DHow are Russian Rats compared to North American rats? Similar temperament?

[Sylphie]

Hmm, hard to tell as I never owned any north american rats other than corns... but I would say that they remind me Pituophis, especially when I read about prairiepanda pits. They are active all day, wander a lot in their cages, are calm and inquisitive, and are having monstorous feeding response. And they are really tough, can live in 70°F with no problems at all.
Ahh, and are really strong for a snake that size too! Pure muscles there :D

[Bandit]

Ah I see. You're right, they do sound like pits...or maybe some muscled up versions of NA rat snakes.

[trailblazer295]

I like hoggies, but they are worse with eating than balls, and that's something, haha :D

That's what I'm trying to avoid lol