Good or bad enclosure?

[Pogie]

I found this on Craig's list. Wouldn't this have to be made water proof? I like it a lot and it's pretty cheap lol
What would have to be done to make it a good snake cage for Tyrion (MBK)? If it's even big enough?

Well other than the glass and the door which it needs added lol.

Custom Reptile Enclosure-80% finished (http://peoria.craigslist.org/pet/5190572830.html)

[Sasha2]

It would be huge for a MBK.I think most of the height would be wasted on a kingsnake(I could be wrong, I dont have kingsnakes).Instead of waterproofing just put down a piece of linoleum or vinyl carpet runner and silicon the edges.
For that price its got alot of potential. I wish I lived closer Id snag it up for my carpet python.

[Albert Clark]

Beautiful looking with a lot of potential. I personally don't care that it is partially made up of pine. Which can be irritating to a reptiles respiratory tract.

[reptiledude987]

I would stay clear simply because of the pine. I personally wouldnt put a single one of my animals in a pine enclosure or even have a pine branch in an enclosure.

[jjhill001]

Height isn't a waste on kingsnakes as long as you use it right however I too would steer clear because of the pine thing.

[Georgia]

Seal it off.

[Pogie]

Beautiful looking with a lot of potential. I personally don't care that it is partially made up of pine. Which can be irritating to a reptiles respiratory tract.

Wow, thank you for the straight forward answer. A simple yes or no would have worked. It was a question, sorry if it offended you. Ok I'm not really sorry lol. If you can't answer my question as the rest did with out trying to make me look like an idiot for asking, guess I'll just not ask anymore.

To the rest of you thank you for your answers. I am aware of the pine issue, my next question was going to be if I replaced it would that be ok? But I won't ask anymore questions. Thank you all for your time.

[David VB]

Wow, thank you for the straight forward answer. A simple yes or no would have worked. It was a question, sorry if it offended you. Ok I'm not really sorry lol. If you can't answer my question as the rest did with out trying to make me look like an idiot for asking, guess I'll just not ask anymore.

To the rest of you thank you for your answers. I am aware of the pine issue, my next question was going to be if I replaced it would that be ok? But I won't ask anymore questions. Thank you all for your time.

It might be me (not being english), but what is wrong with his answer? I personally don't read it as being sarcastic or offensive towards you...

[SSSSnakes]

It might be me (not being english), but what is wrong with his answer? I personally don't read it as being sarcastic or offensive towards you...

I agree. I did not think the answer was intended to be sarcastic either. Just seal the wood and it doesn't matter what it is made from. I think the size is not right for a King snake.

[Sasha2]

Just get some water based polyurethane and paint a few coats on the pine and it will be fine. But the glass/lexan for the front could be pretty expensive.
It could make a really nice display cage though.

[sirtalis]

Same, id think there's anything sarcastic about Albert's answer.

[Albert Clark]

I was simply expressing my opinion. Sorry you took it the wrong way. Thanks.

[Pogie]

I was simply expressing my opinion. Sorry you took it the wrong way. Thanks.

Sorry, I misunderstood your response. So you would put a snake in this enclosure, again sorry and ty.

[jjhill001]

It offended me from all the way over here tbh.

[murrindindi]

Beautiful looking with a lot of potential. I personally don't care that it is partially made up of pine. Which can be irritating to a reptiles respiratory tract.

Hi, pine once sealed is perfectly safe to use for any reptile. I thought your answer was very polite even though I disagree in part!

[Pogie]

After reading all of your opinions and doing some research online I did decide to get this.

This is what I have found reading up on the subject.

Seems some either really hate pine and say it's a death sentence, others say fine if sealed off good it is fine to use.
I can see why not to use the wood for bedding as it isn't sealed and the pine is in direct contact with the animal. When building however it is sealed off and never touches the animal.

And the thing isn't made of pine actually, just the panel on the inside and if I can replace that if I decide to as I will read more on this subject before putting anything or sealing anything in it.

Again thank you all for your input.

[jjhill001]

You aren't supposed to use pine or cedar as bedding for reptiles. This is 100% true.

[Mikoh4792]

The size is not an issue. The pine is.

No such thing as too big, only too open.. or too empty.

[Pogie]

Yup, I know about the pine bedding. I have never nor would I use it. But it makes sense that if the solid wood is sealed it should be fine. But like I said I am probably going to just remove the pine wood. It's only for the looks on the thing. Should come out easy.

I agree, about the size thing. I am trying to figure out how to "use" the top portion of it. I am thinking of making a rock background out of the foam stuff. I did it on one tank and I liked it a lot. And it's not to hard to do, this way I can make ledges so he can explore.

[Mikoh4792]

Yup, I know about the pine bedding. I have never nor would I use it. But it makes sense that if the solid wood is sealed it should be fine. But like I said I am probably going to just remove the pine wood. It's only for the looks on the thing. Should come out easy.

I agree, about the size thing. I am trying to figure out how to "use" the top portion of it. I am thinking of making a rock background out of the foam stuff. I did it on one tank and I liked it a lot. And it's not to hard to do, this way I can make ledges so he can explore.

That would be good use of vertical space. Perches/Branches screwed onto the sides can also work as well..similar to what you see in green tree python enclosure.

[chairman]

Or live indoor trees/shrubs. The ones sturdy enough to hold snakes usually get too tall for standard enclosues... not a problem for this enclosure.

[Georgia]

Wrong. ALOT of snakes enjoy a nice open section in their enclosure. My Canebrakes are a testament to this. I'd say half the time they are out in the open coiled up in the dirt chillin.