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SnoopySnake

07-11-15, 03:20 PM

Sooooo.....I maaay have a problem.....I went to an expo today. Aaaaand this guy came home with me. It's male, about 4 ft. I held him multiple times, he was super chill the whole time. The temp in the building was probably around 75 though so we'll see how he does once he gets warmed up. More pics to come.....

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/IMAG4823_zpsf1qusqsq.jpg

PatrickT

07-11-15, 03:22 PM

awesome. But i heared they are kinda nippy.

SnoopySnake

07-11-15, 03:25 PM

Yeah, that's the general consensus. We'll see how it goes once he gets fed and settled in.

EL Ziggy

07-11-15, 04:32 PM

Nice one Adrian. I really like the WLP's. I actually considered keeping one. I hope he works out great for you. Congrats!

SnoopySnake

07-11-15, 04:48 PM

Thanks Ziggy! I'm pretty stoked. This is the best pic I have for size reference right now.http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/20150711_142038_zpsxl7dbijl.jpeg

EL Ziggy

07-11-15, 06:55 PM

That is one SWEEET serpent!

SnoopySnake

07-11-15, 08:39 PM

Ok guys, I lied, I think he's closer to 5 1/2 - 6 ft, lol. His belly is pink, looks ready to shed. More pics as promised......
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6844_zpsrfdlpuba.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6828_zpsvvnqvdpz.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6821_zpseolwivps.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6819_zpsesmhuwtg.jpg

EL Ziggy

07-11-15, 08:45 PM

Look at the iridescence on him! Somebody hit the jackpot!

valid

07-11-15, 09:20 PM

I admittedly am not a huge fan of pythons in general, I have nothing against them ... I like boas & boids' much better as far as aesthetics go .... But these guys are the exception. I would love to have one of these beauties some day. Congrats, I am jealous.

bigsnakegirl785

07-11-15, 10:54 PM

Yeah my retic was super mellow when I held her at the expo, and she didn't change much when I brought her home! Now, her clutch mate (who was a male, and I'm pretty sure he was her clutch mate - he was at least hatched at around the same time) was pretty wound up when I held him despite the cool temps (and much larger), but he was a sunfire and I preferred her wild-type colors to his.

Hopefully your's will settle in nicely as well. :P I usually prefer the black southern white-lips, but I really love how the colors blend on this one.

Wingbeats

07-11-15, 11:03 PM

Gooooooooorgeeeeeous! I'm tempted to get a white-lipped someday...I loove it when snakes have iridescence :) Maybe when I'm a more experienced keeper.

havoc_vulture

07-11-15, 11:20 PM

Awesome snake congrats on a great pick up

I just saw this on Facebook retic nation lol

dave himself

07-12-15, 07:27 AM

Congratulations Snoopy that's a beautiful white lipped you picked up :)

SoPhilly

07-12-15, 08:03 AM

Beautiful. So Jealous :).

Sublimeballs

07-12-15, 09:04 AM

Awe man, I'm so happy for you. I know you've wanted one of these for a while now. Congrats on the addition. Even if he does change a little..... Look at him. Congrats.

SnoopySnake

07-12-15, 09:47 AM

Thanks guys! I don't wanna chalk his calmness up to being cold, there were other animals there that needed the same temps and were more feisty lol. I have wanted one for awhile. It was the perfect opportunity. He looks ready to shed, pink belly. He's got a few marks from live feeds (hopefully he takes f/t fine) but with the right care he'll be fixed right up. He warmed up a bit when I got him home and was still super calm when I hooked him out, and he even seemed hungry. My biggest concern is that there's a small lump on one of his sides, I'll have to grab a pic later.

SnoopySnake

07-17-15, 01:33 PM

Well, Albert(?) is deep in blue. He has a vet appointment on Friday, so I'll update everyone then and get some pics. Going to try feeding tomorrow, we'll see how it goes.

EL Ziggy

07-17-15, 02:01 PM

Keep us posted Adrian. I'm sure he'll thrive under your care.

Albert Clark

07-17-15, 02:32 PM

Wow! Very unique. Great choice and I hope he adjusts and enjoys his new enclosure.

Tsubaki

07-17-15, 03:09 PM

Very nice! Congrats :D

prairiepanda

07-17-15, 03:11 PM

White lips are so gorgeous! Not a fan of their typical temperament, but if I ever find a really chill individual I would snap it up in a heartbeat. They're one of my absolute favorite wild types. Very impressive animals.

SnoopySnake

07-18-15, 09:36 AM

Thanks guys :) Very happy to have him. Hopefully his attitude doesn't change once we fix him up.

toddnbecka

07-19-15, 01:02 AM

Unlikely that would affect his disposition, though I did hear of a ball python that had a bad case of mouth rot many years ago when I was in college. He was taken in by the school as a rescue, and along with the antibiotic shots they force fed him for some time. I don't know how his temperament was prior to that, but they kept him in a large glass fronted display case type enclosure, and he would strike the glass quite hard whenever he saw anyone in a white lab coat.
Back in those days BP's were almost always WC imports, and considering the condition that one was in I can't imagine he'd had a good experienced with people in general before he was taken care of.

SnoopySnake

07-20-15, 08:18 PM

Offered food today, he refused. Going to go ahead and order some quail for him.

SnoopySnake

07-21-15, 07:36 AM

He had his first shed here last night, came out nearly perfect aside from a few spots that tore, which isn't surprising since he's got a few healing scars. Woo!

Zelg

07-21-15, 10:50 AM

Totally jelly. Getting ready to build a new cage for a new wlp. I cant wait to start my actual search for one. Beautiful snake you picked up. Knowing it shed last night Id suspect thats why he didnt eat. Maybe not but i'd give it another go.

eminart

07-21-15, 01:12 PM

They're beautiful, and unique-looking snakes. They remind me a lot of their cousins and neighbors, the Boelen's python.

SnoopySnake

07-21-15, 01:20 PM

They're beautiful, and unique-looking snakes. They remind me a lot of their cousins and neighbor's, the Boelen's python.

Definitely!! I prefer these over Boelen's because they're less 'blocky' I guess.

Aaron_S

07-21-15, 02:29 PM

Offered food today, he refused. Going to go ahead and order some quail for him.

He had his first shed here last night, came out nearly perfect aside from a few spots that tore, which isn't surprising since he's got a few healing scars. Woo!

Why order quail if you fed him right before a shed? I would try again with a rodent in a few days.

SnoopySnake

07-21-15, 02:44 PM

I'm going to try again first, I guess I just felt it'd be a good idea to have them already in case he won't take the rats. I planned on ordering them big enough for him but small enough for my rainbow boas so that way if he still won't eat them my rainbows get some variety too. I'm going to wait him out just a bit longer though.

SnoopySnake

07-23-15, 06:44 PM

I offered food again today, he struck at it within a couple seconds, but missed, he then got hissy and angry and tried to get away, and then he grabbed it and threw some coils. Soooo hoping he actually eats it! :D

SnoopySnake

07-23-15, 09:10 PM

He ate it :D:yes:

Aaron_S

07-23-15, 11:29 PM

Told you :p i win.

SnoopySnake

07-23-15, 11:40 PM

Yeah yeah, you're always right :rolleyes: lol

Aaron_S

07-24-15, 06:16 AM

Yeah yeah, you're always right :rolleyes: lol

See this Lori?!?!?! Bam! I'm always right!

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 03:30 PM

I'm seeing a new hook in the near future. He doesn't strike unless you get him really worked up, but at 6 ft he's got quite the range. A couple pics from cleaning today while he was out. He did seem like he was still in food mode so I'm sure that contributed to his attitude today.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6886_zpsdcdztrwf.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6885_zps96teygua.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN6890_zpsxqdoa46t.jpg

lady_bug87

07-26-15, 03:56 PM

He ate it :D:yes:

Yeah yeah, you're always right :rolleyes: lol

I discourage anyone saying this to him. He becomes almost intolerable....

And no Aaron you aren't always right. I am.

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 04:00 PM

Wellll, he was right, wasn't he? Lol.

lady_bug87

07-26-15, 04:02 PM

Yes but only this time. Lol.

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 04:39 PM

I dunno, he seems to be right a lot, as far as snakes go. Haha. Side note: this guy really hates his tail being touched. More than any other snake I've held.

EL Ziggy

07-26-15, 04:51 PM

Your WLP is looking great Adrian.

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 04:57 PM

Thanks Ziggy :) the pictures of him are very interesting. He just shed but in the pics he looks like he's still in shed. I can't wait to work with him and get some outside pics.

lady_bug87

07-26-15, 08:28 PM

I dunno, he seems to be right a lot, as far as snakes go. Haha. Side note: this guy really hates his tail being touched. More than any other snake I've held.

Ugh fine! But I can't be responsible for his ego rupture :p

Aaron_S

07-26-15, 08:30 PM

Ugh fine! But I can't be responsible for his ego rupture :p

You've grown soft. I'm surprised you didn't ban anyone saying I'm right even if I am!

lady_bug87

07-26-15, 08:40 PM

I really really should

Aaron_S

07-26-15, 08:45 PM

I really really should

Bam! New signature "do not admit to Aaron being right ever. Even if he is!"

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 08:46 PM

What have I done...lolol

eminart

07-26-15, 08:55 PM

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 09:42 PM

Thanks Eminart! I'll have to try and get some with better lighting, he's so pretty.

I know some of you might disagree with it so soon, but he had his second meal with me tonight. He wouldn't take it till I set it down in front of his face lol. His first meal was very small, like didn't leave a lump, he was already out looking tonight so I gave him two which should be good for the week. Hopefully it's smooth sailing from here.

bigsnakegirl785

07-26-15, 10:21 PM

Again, nice addition! The food response doesn't surprise me. Glad to hear he's eating so well with you so far. I actually saw few of these northerns (babies though) at the Atlanta show, reminded me of your guy. :P I don't think a second feeding so soon should hurt him if the meal was small, I just wouldn't do it all the time.

SnoopySnake

07-26-15, 10:29 PM

Oh definitely won't be all the time, I hear once these guys get eating then their appetites are great though. In ways I wish I would have started with a baby, but overall I'm very happy with him. After this he'll get a week, and we'll go from there. Gotta get him some of the right size once I free up some freezer space.

PatrickT

07-26-15, 10:44 PM

he looks awesome. Did you ho to the vet? Is the lump issue solved?

SnoopySnake

07-27-15, 08:54 AM

Thanks! Unfortunately I have to reschedule as we had some personal family stuff come up. Oddly though, the lump seemed smaller after he had his shed.

Zelg

09-12-15, 03:30 PM

Just cause I always see this thread on the front page I'll post here. I got a northern WLP yesterday. Beautiful creatures they are. I used a hook to get him out of the bag and at first he tried to flee but then quickly shot up my hook, up to my hand and struck my thumb lol. It drew some blood but I think I only had one puncture. It felt like a light tap with a pencil (think pencil wars in school where you break them) but it was insanely fast and no wind-up. Was just moving fairly calmly up to me and then BAM! Easy enough to laugh off.

I'll have to measure mine in the coming days but I'm guessing hes about 3 to 3-1/2 feet long. A little bigger than I was expecting from the store tbh but not bad. I'm very excited about him and cant wait to get the time to take some pics. Snoopy, it looks like you have a very very nice snake. Whats the humidity you're keeping yours at? Are sheds coming out well? For some reason when I look up their humidity I struggle to find people that state specifically what % it should be. A lot seem to just say high humidity...i take that to mean 70+ Probably closer to 80.

SnoopySnake

09-13-15, 11:07 AM

Congrats on your new white lip. I had estimated mine at 4' at the expo but once I had him stretched out at home I realized it was closer to 6'. He's nice looking but doesn't act nice ;) I keep mine at 75%-80%, he's only had one shed in the two months with me which was a few days after I got him. It was mostly in one piece with some tatters, just he has scars which may have made it a bit more difficult. I have also had that problem with care sheets. Right now I'm having some difficulty with him and his feeding.

Zelg

09-15-15, 11:03 PM

I saw your thread about having problems feeding. Thats no good. I'm going to try feeding mine tomorrow. Seeing as he coils back looking to strike at any chance he gets, I'm feeling good that mine will eat ok though I'm not fully expecting one or the other.

Thanks for the humidity %. I was keeping him at 75% but was struggling with it due to having to use a tank for the moment. I just threw in some soil topped with mulch. Ive found that a layer of soil under the mulch helps big time with humidity in those tanks. Anyhow, its up at a steady 80 right now. I'm in the last phase of building his proper cage right now. Just need to stain and seal.

I havent had much chance time to handle him yet as I want him a little settled before I get into handling him. He's a quick and feisty guy, always at the ready for whatever comes his way. They're absolutely stunning animals to observe while they move about. Pretty exhilarating to work with thus far.

Was trying to post a pic of mine but im having trouble uploading it to the post. Will try again some other time.

SnoopySnake

10-09-15, 01:03 PM

This guy hasn't eaten for me since August 24th and today I realized he's lost more weight than I'm comfortable with, so I'm going to try a brained rat tomorrow night and if he doesn't take that then I'm waiting a few days and trying live. Next step will be the vet if he won't take live.
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/pizap.com14444058398511_zpsp43ztn2n.jpg

Sylphie

10-09-15, 01:35 PM

Uhh I hope he'll start eating. He sure lost a lot of weight, it's really frustrating when they do this. Fingers crossed for you!

reptiledude987

10-09-15, 01:38 PM

If he dosent take the live you arent going to try an assisted feed first before the vet?

SnoopySnake

10-09-15, 01:41 PM

If he dosent take the live you arent going to try an assisted feed first before the vet?

How do I do an assisted feed? I figured I'd take him to the vet anyway because he had this lump when I got him, I don't see it anymore but I want to make sure its not causing any problems.

SnoopySnake

10-09-15, 01:43 PM

I feel bad that I didn't notice the weight loss sooner, I would have with any of my others but I don't like messing with them too much when they're off food...

reptiledude987

10-09-15, 03:03 PM

I just did my first solo assist feed last night with my baby beakie and it wasnt fun. Basically use a food item 1-2 sizes smaller than you would normall use. If the snake wont open its mouth on its own you will need to gently pry it open. To do this you will need to be holding the snake behind the head. With the size of your snake you will also want someone to hold the body while you do this. Once the mouth is open get the mouse/rats head into the snakes mouth. Once its in use forceps to slowly push the prey item into the throat. to do this each push on the prey you will be putting a bit of the end on the forceps into the snakes mouth but thats fine. Once youve pushed the full prey item into the throat gently massage the lump down on the underside of the snake until its a good distance down so that the snake wont regurg it. Once this is done just treat as if it were any normal feeding just dont disturb it and keep an eye to make sure that it keeps it down.

With the lump you mentioned I dont know where it was in the snake. If it was anywhere near the vent there is a possibility of a bowel obstruction. If its drinking thats a good sign thats not the case. If you suspect that it may be an obstruction you want to get it to a vet asap. especially with the amount of time youve had this issue i really hope youve seen a bowel movement. I would hate to see something bad happen to your beautiful friend here.

SnoopySnake

10-09-15, 10:06 PM

reptiledude987

10-10-15, 08:04 AM

Aaron_S

10-10-15, 08:29 AM

So essentially force feeding? I'm not really sure if I feel okay with that as it seems fairly stressful and he gets stressed easy..As far as the lump goes it was very small about about 1/3rd of the way down his body. Didn't see it till I got home or I wouldn't have went through with getting him...He seems hydrated but I don't see him drink, and he was having regular bowel movements up until he stopped eating but passes urates regularly.

If your husbandry is good then you should pretty much never see your snake drink. Pythons and boas tend to be more built to retain their moisture/humidity. Especially if it's passing urates then it's good.

Also, if you haven't tried live yet go to that before assist feeding.

Yes assist/ force feeding is the same thing. I understand what you mean by the stress on the snake but the way i see it is a vet visit wouldnt be any less stressfull. This is probably the same thing the vet will end up doing anyhow.

Just because I like to be picky and technical, assist feeding is different than force feeding. Now a days in the hobby I think the terms are interchangeable but that wasn't always the case.

Assist feeding is how I would describe placing a prey item into the mouth of a snake, pushing it just barely deep enough to "catch" and the snake does the rest of the work.

Force feeding is using one of two methods. One you literally force the prey item into the throat and work it into the stomach. That's highly stressful.
The second method is using a pinky pump. You insert a tube into the stomach through the mouth/throat and literally pump a pinky slurry into the snake. This is also highly gross and stressful.

SnoopySnake

10-10-15, 09:14 AM

Yes assist/ force feeding is the same thing. I understand what you mean by the stress on the snake but the way i see it is a vet visit wouldnt be any less stressfull. This is probably the same thing the vet will end up doing anyhow.

I know the vet visit will be stressful for him but its necessary, with the visible amount of weight he's lost something has to be wrong...Maybe its silly but I feel like force feeding might lead the cycle on, I worry the stress from making him eat might continue to make him not eat...

reptiledude987

10-10-15, 09:24 AM

I know the vet visit will be stressful for him but its necessary, with the visible amount of weight he's lost something has to be wrong...Maybe its silly but I feel like force feeding might lead the cycle on, I worry the stress from making him eat might continue to make him not eat...

Fair enough I totally ubderstand where youre coming from. Its quite possible the stress wouldnt help with the underlying issue. Just wanted to offer an option.

reptiledude987

10-10-15, 09:26 AM

Just because I like to be picky and technical, assist feeding is different than force feeding. Now a days in the hobby I think the terms are interchangeable but that wasn't always the case.

Assist feeding is how I would describe placing a prey item into the mouth of a snake, pushing it just barely deep enough to "catch" and the snake does the rest of the work.

Force feeding is using one of two methods. One you literally force the prey item into the throat and work it into the stomach. That's highly stressful.
The second method is using a pinky pump. You insert a tube into the stomach through the mouth/throat and literally pump a pinky slurry into the snake. This is also highly gross and stressful.

Good point. thanks for the clairification

Aaron_S

10-10-15, 10:45 AM

Good point. thanks for the clairification

No problemo. It just makes me feel old when I remember silly differences between terms.

SnoopySnake

10-10-15, 10:57 AM

If it makes you feel any better I'm 16 and had an idea of the differences lol. I'm glad we can handle different opinions here without an argument.

If he doesn't eat tonight then I'm going to try live in a few days, and if he still doesn't eat then to the vet we go...

datanasov01

10-10-15, 11:04 AM

My female White lips python (3 years) began to eat after 5 months starvation. The weight loss was 15%.

reptiledude987

10-10-15, 11:20 AM

I think those of us us who have been here for a while have come to expect these types of corrections from Aaron at this point lol.

SnoopySnake

10-10-15, 10:57 PM

Aaron_S

10-11-15, 07:19 AM

No luck, live it is.... I left the room and left all lights off for awhile, he bit at the rat defensively and then bit and coiled, when I came back he hadn't eaten it and got extremely angry and gave a few good strikes while I was removing the rat.

How long did you leave it in after the coil? I usually leave my frozen stuff in over night and check again in the morning.

However the snake could have just "killed it" to stop the annoying rat. I've seen snakes literally kill a prey item just to have it stop bothering them.

SnoopySnake

10-11-15, 08:40 AM

Aaron_S

10-11-15, 11:39 AM

I left the room for about 20 minutes and when I came back he was nowhere near the rat. The only way I've ever been able to get him to eat is by taunting him/non stop moving the rat but lately that just makes him defensive. I don't leave them overnight because he's never taken then overnight and I like to be able to refreeze.

Yeah I was worried he might do that with live which made me kinda weary of trying it but I know I need to..

Go with the live. I suspect it'll eat just fine. I recommend leaving it alone over night even if it kills the live prey. The snake may wait awhile to eat. Some snakes prefer grosser food.

SnoopySnake

10-11-15, 11:56 AM

Aaron_S

10-11-15, 12:07 PM

I'll do that. The times I've left it overnight I'd dangle it again in the morning/midday with the same response :/ Even if he does eat I'll still be taking him to the vet. If he doesn't take a live rat then a live chick will be my next step.

If he eats then I'd hold off on a vet for the time being unless there's another issue you need checked out. I would err on the side of caution of any new stress to stop eating again.

SnoopySnake

10-11-15, 12:16 PM

Good point. Its just the amount of weight loss is alarming to me for such a short time and he did have that lump so I guess I wanted to err on the side of caution. I guess we'll just have to see what happens. I always found it odd how calm he is once out haha. I took him out a few mins ago just to look him over and see just how much hes lost and its quite a bit. The lump is smaller looking but I'm not sure if thats to do with the weight loss. I don't get him out when he's off feed but I wanted to make sure nothing was visibly wrong.

pet_snake_78

10-12-15, 09:36 PM

I have had lots of snakes that would only eat live for a time or would go off feed until I offered a live meal or two then they got back on board with frozen/thawed again.

I wouldn't refreeze food, though. Once it's warm, I'd toss it if not used.

SnoopySnake

10-13-15, 05:46 PM

Bought the live rat tonight and honestly it made me really sad giving it to him...so far he's killed it and I can't tell if he's eating it yet.

SnoopySnake

10-13-15, 06:46 PM

He finally ate for me!

IW17

10-13-15, 07:10 PM

Right on snoopy. Sometimes that's what it takes. Glad to hear he's finally eating. Now just keep up the good work and keep us updated on his progress.

Aaron_S

10-13-15, 07:35 PM

He finally ate for me!

Just do it a few times. Probably another 2 to 4 meals then try frozen thawed again.

EL Ziggy

10-13-15, 07:38 PM

Congrats Adrian. That's great news.

Sublimeballs

10-14-15, 12:07 AM

I'd be willing to bet that lump ends up being nematodes. The lumps will disappear when the worm isn't right under the skin. It might take you a couple trips(don't always show up on the first go) but to reduce stress I'd start by taking his next poo in for a fecal exam.

SnoopySnake

10-14-15, 11:00 AM

Thanks guys, I don't like doing live but it was easier than I thought and he definitely needed to eat.

I'd be willing to bet that lump ends up being nematodes. The lumps will disappear when the worm isn't right under the skin. It might take you a couple trips(don't always show up on the first go) but to reduce stress I'd start by taking his next poo in for a fecal exam.

That's what I was told by someone else, the lump is always in the same spot but sometimes it protrudes less than others it seems. His appointment is on the 19th, its the only day my dad has off till November so I figured I should do it now rather than wait.

I'm just SO glad he's eating again.

Zelg

10-14-15, 11:39 AM

Hey, been following this thread since I got my wlp. I'm so glad you were able to get him to eat. Its stressful when they go off. When I got mine and fed him the first time, he came out, sniffed around the rat at the end of my tweezers, circled around a bit and then calmly took it from me, set it on the ground and ate it after about 2 minutes.

About 14 days later I tried again and he didnt come out. Left it there and he moved it but didnt eat it.

Waited another 10 or so days and again he didnt come out and I left it. This was at around 10 at night. By the morning it was gone. Reading your thread and seeing the weightloss was pretty scary. I felt like I was going to have to go the same route! lol.

Sucks you had to go with live. My BP is stuck on live though I plan on trying to go with FT again soon to see if I can switch him with some other ways. Stubborn little guy. I love the thrill of a live hunt and the strike of a snake on the hunt but theres a HUGE risk of bites. As thrilling as it is most times, sometimes its stressful as hell because snakes are, you know, shy. Rats especially like to just run up to the snake and walk all over them. BPs dont dig that so much and they seem to prefer to ambush rather than chase.

Good luck with continued feedings.

SnoopySnake

10-14-15, 12:26 PM

The live feeding does make me nervous because he struck 5 or 6 times before he actually grabbed the rat so it seems he has bad aim...I just hate to hear them once they get grabbed. He's taken f/t before so hopefully he'll go back. I won't push it until his weight is back up, though.

prairiepanda

10-14-15, 01:18 PM

Glad he's eating again! Usually in these cases the snake will go back on f/t no problem once their appetite is back, so you shouldn't have to bear the live feeding for too much longer :)

SnoopySnake

10-26-15, 07:19 PM

He killed the rat tonight and didn't eat it. I'm really upset.

Derek Roddy

10-27-15, 10:03 AM

Remember, it's starting to cool down outside which for a snake means that breeding season is coming and they often go off feed for several months at a time...esp imports (which is what yours looks like.)

If he's killing and not eating....it's season and he wants to breed. He didn't get that big by not eating. haha.

As far as weight, he may look thin compared to captive animals but, rest assure he's fine. Any wild caught or short term captive will be "thin" in the eyes of captive keepers who aren't familiar with their average size in the bush.

Find him a girl .lol.

Cheers,
D

SnoopySnake

10-27-15, 10:09 AM

He was a healthy weight when he got here, its just when he went off food that he started dropping. The visible weight loss is alarming if he was just wanting to breed. He had mites pretty bad but were getting it under control now, could the mites have made him drop weight faster? He did get taken out a few days ago and was out being soaked/treated for awhile, I suppose that could have stressed him to the point he didn't want food.

No females for this guy...yet ;) Have to get this one under control first.

Derek Roddy

10-27-15, 10:14 AM

I wouldn't sweat the weight loss as of yet. I've seen them much thinner in the wild. So much so that most people would freeze (euthanize) an animal if it look like that in their captive environment. Haha.
He'll be fine as far as that is concerned. like I said if he's wrapping and killing and not eating....he wants a girl and will resume feeding normally in a couple months.

Now, if there are mites involved, etc....being an import (which I'm 100% sure of) all of that will make him a "picky" eater until he becomes secure in a captive environment. but, you most likely won't see normal feeding behavior until after the breeding season.

D

SnoopySnake

10-27-15, 10:28 AM

Awesome, thanks for the reassurance. He ate decently up until the mites flared up, so hopefully he'll be good after they're gone. I'm eventually planning on building him a 4'Lx4'Hx3'W bioactive enclosure for him. Do you think that'll be big enough? He's very unusually calm for a WC white lip, too.

Snapped a few pics of him while I was getting the rat out. He's a feisty guy in his enclosure for sure.
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN7436_zpsfqygcxfj.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSCN7438_zpsucofcsta.jpg

Zelg

10-27-15, 03:04 PM

After he kills the rat, do you leave him be? Leave the room, turn off the lights, etc? Is it night? Day? Do you watch him to see if he eats?

I got mine about a month ago. Calmly took my F/T from my tweezers, pulled it to the ground, let go and circled around it for about 10 minutes, flicking his tongue. After 10 mins or so he began eating it.

10 days later, poke the rat in its cage and he didnt even come out for a sniff. I left it in his cage and it was there in the morning.

10 days later, I open his cage, hold the rat, doesnt come out of his hide so I left it at his front door, watched tv, went to bed and when I woke up it was gone.

That leads me to believe they really dont like being watched when they're eating. Also, I can go into my balls cage, move stuff around etc and my ball wont hardly move. I walk into my room or shine a light on WLP's cage and immediately you can see his coils tighten up inside his hide. Any bumps of the cage or loud noises like shutting a window will spook him.

I mostly ask this because in that one picture his mouth is bloody so I'm wondering if you watched him kill it and waited to see if he'd eat it and he didnt want to be watched or something. They easily stress too.

SnoopySnake

10-27-15, 03:11 PM

I watched him kill it to make sure nothing went wrong and then left the room as soon as he got it. Same thing I did last time he ate. It was about 8:30, so later. I don't watch him because I know he'll drop it and watch me. I took those pics when I was taking the rat out of his enclosure, so he'd already killed it and had let it go for some time. If I dangle a f/t in front of his hides he just strikes it defensively, and if I leave it in there overnight he just ignores it.

Zelg

10-27-15, 03:46 PM

Ah ok. That sounds terribly frustrating. My ball went off feeding for like 3 months last year. It really freaked me out at the time. Not that the situations are the same. I wish I could offer up some assistance. Been watching your thread a while now and I'm hopin things smooth out for you and your WLP.

reptiledude987

11-12-15, 03:42 PM

How is your feeding issue coming along?

I keep looking at your pics here in anticipation Of mine coming in, in the summer of 2016. I dont know if i can wait that long lol.

SnoopySnake

11-12-15, 04:50 PM

His last meal was October 13th. I'm going to try again this weekend and see how it goes...I'm hoping with the mites clearing up and having left him alone these past couple weeks that he'll eat for me.

reptiledude987

11-12-15, 05:00 PM

good luck I hope it works for you.

SnoopySnake

11-17-15, 11:05 AM

This guy was looking kinda crappy yesterday, his tub has been a bit too dry since we're still treating for mites, and he's still losing weight. But I offered him a weaned rat since he was out, he struck and coiled, then put it down and went in his hide. I sprayed down the tank really good and this morning he got all of his shed off. I took the rat out, brained it, left it in his hide overnight but he didn't eat it. I dangled it again when I was taking him out and he coiled, dropped it, then started sniffing around to eat it. So apparently he likes smelly brained rats. I'm going to see if he'll take another one in 2-3 days since this was a really small meal for him.

Sylphie

11-17-15, 11:25 AM

So glad to hear that he finally ate! :D Hope he'll start to eat more frequently now.

SnoopySnake

11-25-15, 10:26 AM

He was acting much more like a typical white lip should last night :D I had to clean his cage, so I took his hide off of him and put it on the other side, but instead of going in it he got really angry and started climbing the hook. He climbed up the hook, which was keeping the lid of the tub open, and then just sat there staring at me looking very defensive and well in striking distance of my face. We sat like this for about 5 minutes and I didn't want to move and spook him, and I couldn't push him back in with the hook because if I moved it the lid would crush him. So I very slowly and carefully grabbed the paper towel roll next to me and pushed his head away and the rest of his body back into the tub. It was intense and he's much more intimidating than my little retic :o

And for the mites, I didn't get a good look when he was staring me down, but there were TONS of dead ones on the paper towels. So it looks like the problem is in control :) I am really curios to see whats still on him and alive, but I'm trying to keep handling to a minimal so that he keeps eating for me.

SnoopySnake

02-23-16, 10:05 PM

Albert took a f/t large rat tonight with vigor. Woot woot! First meal since Nov. 17th. Hopefully he starts eating regularly now.

dannybgoode

02-24-16, 01:58 AM

Great news snoopy. And a beautiful snake. As you say hopefully he'll be on his food now. Shows what being patient and being led by the snakes behaviour does for sorting out feeding issues.

Herpo

02-24-16, 02:15 AM

I hope so too, he's a gorgeous snake by the way!

AwesomeGuy376

02-24-16, 02:19 AM

Gotta say it with everyone else, but that is one beautiful snake!

SnoopySnake

02-24-16, 08:12 AM

Thanks guys. I'm pretty excited about this. I had tried giving him a chick just the other night and he practically decapitated it to let me know he didn't want it. Saw that he'd been out for a few days so I figured I should try again with a rat. Hopefully now he starts putting some weight on.

macandchz

02-24-16, 08:41 AM

is his face rainbow colored or is that the lighting? what an interesting snake!

SnoopySnake

02-24-16, 08:46 AM

is his face rainbow colored or is that the lighting? what an interesting snake!

His face is black but when the light hits him right he gets a rainbow sheen, just like rainbow boas do. When he's outside he practically glows :)

Derek Roddy

02-24-16, 10:22 AM

SnoopySnake

02-24-16, 12:02 PM

He'll come back online once it starts to warm up good and he gets fully out of breeding mode. Meals will become more frequent.
May I ask what you are doing to combat the mites? You've been treating for a good while now.....should be under control in this amount of time.
Cheers
D

Mites are gone :) Got them under control within a month. I was using NIX like normal, and very small pieces of no pest strips only outside of the enclosures. Also before I could make it to the store to pick up NIX I gave them all baths with a bit of regular blue dawn dish soap, which helped quite a bit. There was one snake who was in a planted enclosure, so I tried just no pest strips and dawn baths on him. Didn't work, he had ended up getting mites again so I tore down the enclosure and am treating with NIX, fortunately they didn't spread to the other snakes.

macandchz

02-24-16, 12:53 PM

already sent you a message to say how great your new snake is but it must have gotten lost somewhere.love the rainbow face.

SnoopySnake

03-24-16, 09:26 PM

Albert took another large rat tonight! After his last meal he had a large bowel movement with a large worm. I should have figured and I should have gotten a fecal done on him since he was even wild caught at all. I think I was lied to about how long he was in captivity. But I'm just glad I know and now have it taken care of, he has been a learning experience...He was treated with two doses of panacure and is on the road to recovery.

Minkness

03-24-16, 10:13 PM

Yay for the good feed!

EL Ziggy

03-25-16, 05:50 AM

Great news Snoop and great job nursing him to good health.

SnoopySnake

03-25-16, 07:39 AM

Thanks guys...he has some pretty gnarly teeth ;) still haven't been tagged by him but I got a pretty good look at the vets office.

dave himself

03-25-16, 09:51 AM

Glad to hear it's all going well Snoopy :)

Albert Clark

03-25-16, 10:21 AM

That is such a amazing story! Thanks Snoop and congrats. Albert is a lucky guy he has you. Lol.

SnoopySnake

06-06-16, 10:32 PM

Albert refused food twice in May, just tried again today and he ate a small rat for me...yay! I kept his tub covered with a blanket.....Could be coincidence or it actually helped! :)

Albert Clark

06-07-16, 06:42 AM

Congrats SS! Patience.

dave himself

06-08-16, 02:14 PM

Good to hear you got him to eat Snoopy and you could be on to something with the blanket trick ;)

SnoopySnake

07-11-16, 10:37 PM

The white lip ate a large rat tonight and a small about two weeks ago. looks like we're getting somewhere :)

dave himself

07-12-16, 03:04 AM

Happy days :)

Ian of Oldham

07-12-16, 10:11 AM

He is so good looking and the colors are great love the pics

2 Royals 1 Corn 1Boa and a mad Cat.

SnoopySnake

07-29-16, 10:38 PM

Another large rat down tonight, and he just shed for me, was out and waiting for food. He didn't even give me a chance to get the rat in the tub before he grabbed it! Can't express how happy I am that this guy is getting better!

Sublimeballs

07-29-16, 11:11 PM

Awesome to hear, getting wc stuff to eat can be an absolute nightmare. Im really happy to hear your hard works paying off.

toddnbecka

07-29-16, 11:18 PM

I know what you mean, it was such a relief when Red finally started eating again after the surgery and antibiotics. Wasn't as bad when he went off food with the rest of the mature males during breeding season this year, and now they're all back on weekly feedings to put some more size and weight back on. On that note, could mating season have been a factor in your python's lack of appetite?

franks

08-01-16, 07:34 PM

Wow. Amazing pics up. Grewt looking snake- congrats.

SnoopySnake

08-11-16, 11:45 AM

Got this guy out to move his tub to a different room last night, and got a weight on him while he was out. On May 31st he was 975 grams. Last night he was 1,065! His scales feel/look much better, he's staying hydrated and eating well. Woo! Here's some pics. After a few minutes he chilled out, but now that he's feeling better he's very sketchy and untrustworthy.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSC07095_zpscflnlto0.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/DSC07096_zpstjtx57ig.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/IMG_8551_zpspquysn4e.jpg
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http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/IMG_8554_zpswnrblrsk.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/IMG_8555_zpsdeyqs9ia.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/IMG_8550_zpsbyrgjxb4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/SnoopySnake/IMG_8552_zpsz9srymys.jpg

dannybgoode

08-11-16, 12:34 PM

Oh wow. Such a nice snake-would totally have on of those!

dave himself

08-11-16, 12:38 PM

Congratulations on getting him well back on track Snoopy, and a snake that looks the good can be as sketchy and as untrustworthy as he pleases :D

SnoopySnake

08-11-16, 10:31 PM

Congratulations on getting him well back on track Snoopy, and a snake that looks the good can be as sketchy and as untrustworthy as he pleases :D

I completely agree Dave :) I have just accepted him as being the hands off one in my collection lol, hope to set him up in a nice bio-active soon.

Gaining almost 100 grams in a month is amazing to me! I'm just so relieved that he's eating well now and on his way to getting healthy....I almost gave up

EL Ziggy

08-12-16, 09:33 AM

He looks GREAT Snoop. I agree with Dave, you did an awesome job getting him on track!

Sublimeballs

08-17-16, 12:11 PM

Great to hear, really glad things are looking up.

SnoopySnake

08-20-16, 04:57 PM

Albert took another rat last night :) seems taking him out didn't throw him off too much

dave himself

08-21-16, 01:11 AM

Albert took another rat last night :) seems taking him out didn't throw him off too much

He's definitely well recovered if he's handling then feeding ;). You've done wonders with him Snoopy fair play to you, keep with updates and pics I love seeing this boy he's a real peach of a snake ;)

SnoopySnake

08-31-16, 09:35 PM

Cleaned alberts tub tonight, he had a very runny, reddish/bloody looking poop. On closer inspection there was a tiny worm in it, upon even closer inspection there were thousands of tiny TINY worms in his poop, so small that they looked like hairs/fuzz/fibers. Looks like he will need to be treated again :( So so stressful but I am just glad he was eating fine this whole time.

SnoopySnake

08-31-16, 09:50 PM

The smell was absolutely HORRID, like a mixture of dead things and methane gas. I've been advised to treat him with flagyl for protazoa since it smells, just curious what others think? These worms were completely different from the ones he had before, I'm a bit bummed out and so confused as to how he could've gotten more :(

Sublimeballs

08-31-16, 09:55 PM

Flagyl is typically recommend for broad spectrum treatment of internal parasites, and to my knowledge is completely harmless to reptiles. I mostly hear about people using it to treat recent imports.

SnoopySnake

08-31-16, 09:59 PM

I've been told to do four doses of panacure and sounds like one dose of flagyl. Would you think this to be good? I am truly stumped as to how he would have gotten more worms, unless they never actually went away? He will be switched back to paper towel tomorrow and treated soon enough.

Sublimeballs

08-31-16, 10:02 PM

Both of those are very commonly used for imports. As far as doses im unsure... I can ask someone reputable who does alot of importing and treatments though. Who are you getting the advice from?

SnoopySnake

08-31-16, 10:06 PM

He was treated with 2 doses of panacure a few months ago, 2 weeks in between the doses. If you want to ask that'd be awesome, I'll PM you who I was getting advice from.

Albert Clark

09-01-16, 10:01 AM

Both panacur and Flagyl are weight based and panacur is the more benign and forgiving as far as the dosaging is concerned. Flagyl is more specific for bacteria , trichomonas and amoeba. A stool sample really should be done to target susceptible organisms. Visible moving worms in the stool may be tapeworm however. You should take a sample in to the vet so it can be identified correctly SS. Good luck.

dave himself

09-01-16, 11:51 AM

Hope you get things sorted out soon Snoopy keep us posted on how things are going

Albert Clark

09-01-16, 11:58 AM

Also, once correctly identified it's easily treatable. Cryptosporidium serpentis is the more problematic and very difficult to treat. This is a the big problem with w/c individuals.

SnoopySnake

09-01-16, 08:09 PM

Definitely not tapeworm. The worms are tiny-literally like hairs you would pull out of your clothes. The only way they were seen is because his poop looked almost glittery when shining a flashlight on it, looking closer with 35x magnification I could see the tiny "hairs" (worms) moving everywhere.

SnoopySnake

09-01-16, 08:11 PM

He took a small rat tonight with the correct dosage of panacur, confirmed by multiple people. I will not be treating him myself with flagyl as that's a prescription only so soon enough I'll have a fecal done for any bacteria ect. Crypto does not seem likely

Albert Clark

09-01-16, 08:53 PM

Cool. Good luck with him. Can't wait to hear he's back to normal.

SnoopySnake

09-01-16, 10:55 PM

He regurged. This is much more concerning

bigsnakegirl785

09-01-16, 11:39 PM

Oh no. :( This sounds really bad, first the gross poo and now a regurge...definitely get him checked out! Sounds like an easy situation to quickly spiral out of control.

dave himself

09-02-16, 12:02 AM

Sorry to hear this Snoopy sounds like there's something else going on here and just when he seemed to be doing so well :( keep us posted when you can on what's happening. Fingers and toes crossed for you

SnoopySnake

09-02-16, 12:04 AM

Yeah I will be calling tomorrow for a fecal. I am starting to panic a little bit....The regurge could just be coincidence but that in combination with the runny, reddish, horrid smelling worm infested poop has got me very concerned. He is definitely hungry and not lethargic at all so that's at least good...I think? Feel so sad, it finally seemed like he was on the right track :(

Albert Clark

09-02-16, 03:17 PM

SnoopySnake

09-02-16, 08:13 PM

Snoop, didn't he recently get over a mite infestation too? Also, was the size of the rat he ate his regular? Either way, I agree with the fecal and his exotic vet. Best wishes and my fingers and toes are crossed for the better outcome.

He had mites back in October last year and they were taken care of within the month, he ended up showing that he had worms earlier this year and was given two doses of panacur for it but I'm wondering if it didn't do the job. The rat was a small rat, on the smaller end, with his dose of the medication. He usually gets larges, so a pretty small meal for him. Working on getting the vet situated, my vet is out of town and there aren't many exotic vets local to me :(

SnoopySnake

09-30-16, 10:04 PM

The white lip got his 3rd dose of panacur today. He went into shed (still in blue stage and will be at least a week before he sheds) and wouldn't eat the dosed rat so we had to do it via syringe and tube. Not fun at all.

On the positive side, his poops are looking much more normal so far, he's still acting normal also. No more red color and solid as should be with nice white urates. He will be having a fecal 2-3 weeks after the last dose to make sure the medication works, and also to check for any Protozoa and treat with flagyl or other necessary medications.

I'm not fully convinced the regurge was related to his condition, I don't think he actually got the rat all the way down as there was absolutely nothing but the rat and some mucous from his throat. No bile or acids which I think after a few hours should have been present... And he took a rat with vigor soon after.

dave himself

10-01-16, 01:49 AM

Thanks for the update Snoopy glad to here he's doing better :) hopefully his test results come back clear

SnoopySnake

10-15-16, 07:04 AM

Haven't been very active lately, internet has been weird here, but a little update. A few days ago the white lip gave up on shedding himself so I had to soak him and remove it myself, stressful but successful. Last night he took his last dosed rat though, even with all the stress that the last dose and stuck shed brought :) so happy! Hope this clears up the problem. Will have a fecal done in a couple weeks here

DarknessToGold

10-15-16, 08:00 AM

He's lovely. :) I'm glad that he seems to be doing better.

dave himself

10-15-16, 09:28 AM

Keep us posted Snoopy fingers crossed all goes well :)

SnoopySnake

11-09-16, 09:21 AM

The white lip ate a large rat about a week or so ago and pooped today, looks healthy but I'm having his follow up fecal done now. Should have the results tomorrow to make sure treatment worked.

SnoopySnake

11-09-16, 07:35 PM

I got the results back early-negative for worms and Protozoa, no other findings. So awesome!

bigsnakegirl785

11-09-16, 08:06 PM

I got the results back early-negative for worms and Protozoa, no other findings. So awesome!

Yay, congrats! That has to be relieving in this trying time.

SnoopySnake

11-09-16, 10:49 PM

Yay, congrats! That has to be relieving in this trying time.

Thanks!! It's definitely a huge relief, I'm so happy to be getting him on the right track. I'm thinking I'll wait maybe another month or two and possibly test again out of extreme caution and if he again has another clean fecal I'll be putting him on a bioactive substrate (using extreme caution) with no plants so that I can reduce as much stress as possible :) He seems to do ok with handling for cage cleaning but I rather leave it alone until he's at a healthy weight. I think he may need to gain about half of his current weight, he's sitting around 1,100 grams now. Will get pics next time I clean his tub... He is very underweight :(

dave himself

11-10-16, 02:29 AM

Glad to hear things are looking good Snoopy keep the updates coming ;)

SnoopySnake

11-10-16, 08:51 AM

Thanks Dave and I definitely will :)

SnoopySnake

12-11-16, 09:40 PM

Albert shed yesterday, came off very torn but he got all of the skin off completely by himself! I'm beginning to think he just doesn't shed well/can't help but make a mess. I'm offering him a large rat tonight, since he's been out since last night. Hope he eats!

SnoopySnake

12-11-16, 09:46 PM

He took the rat with zero hesitation :)

bigsnakegirl785

12-12-16, 12:30 AM

Glad to hear he ate! To his continued success! :)

dave himself

12-12-16, 02:07 AM

Good to see Albert eating for ya Snoopy :)

EL Ziggy

12-12-16, 10:04 AM

Great news Snoop! Glad Albert is doing well.

SnoopySnake

12-22-16, 10:32 PM

Thanks guys :) havent been on here much lately but happy to say that Albert took a medium rat tonight with no hesitation :)

bigsnakegirl785

12-22-16, 11:37 PM

Thanks guys :) havent been on here much lately but happy to say that Albert took a medium rat tonight with no hesitation :)

Yay Albert! Keep up the good work. :) Any news on any recent fecals?

SnoopySnake

12-23-16, 12:13 AM

Yay Albert! Keep up the good work. :) Any news on any recent fecals?

I haven't had another one done yet, but I plan to in about a month or so. The last one was negative for any parasites or Protozoa, hoping that continues :)

dave himself

12-23-16, 01:57 AM

Great news Snoopy let's hope he keeps it going, thanks for the update :)

SnoopySnake

12-23-16, 08:40 AM

Thanks Dave! I hope so too :) I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about him getting better now, usually it takes him about 3 weeks after a large to eat again but this time it was just under 2. He's keeping steady even through temps dropping and is eating better so I really think he will come back around

dave himself

12-23-16, 09:44 AM

Let's hope this is him coming back to full health, he's a rough time lately poor fella. Have a good Christmas mate :)

SnoopySnake

12-23-16, 12:04 PM

Let's hope this is him coming back to full health, he's a rough time lately poor fella. Have a good Christmas mate :)

Yeah he has! Shame it all could have been prevented if I was told the truth about him....but I am one of the lucky ones to purchase from that seller it seems, a little of people's things just die from him as I've heard so I'm very thankful Albert is pulling through.

Merry Christmas to you too! Hope it's a good one :)

SnoopySnake

12-29-16, 09:29 PM

Albert was out on top of his hide so I offered him a large rat...he took it with no problem :) seems he's coming back!

EL Ziggy

12-29-16, 09:37 PM

Sounds like he's back on track Snoop! You've been doing a great job with him.

SnoopySnake

12-29-16, 10:06 PM

Thanks Ziggy :) Just so happy that the work is finally paying off. Hopefully he starts packing on some weight!

SnoopySnake

01-10-17, 06:36 PM

Albert took yet another medium rat tonight!! Woo! I think we are finally getting somewhere with him! I worry about getting my hopes up because everytime he seems to do better...things go south. But I think this is it!

bigsnakegirl785

01-11-17, 01:01 AM

Great news! I'll keep cheering for dear old Albert. :D

dave himself

01-11-17, 03:18 AM

Once again brilliant news Snoopy :)

MartinD

01-11-17, 03:22 AM

Keeping everything crossed Snoopy, hopefully you are right and he's on his way back to good health

SnoopySnake

01-11-17, 10:40 AM

Thanks guys! I can't wait till he's up in weight....he's been rather daring lately since I switched his bedding, he is out all day everyday. Hoping I can put him in a nice large bioactive displa viv once he's a bit healthier :) I've got an awesome entertainment center to convert

toddnbecka

01-12-17, 01:54 AM

Happy to hear the good news :)

SnoopySnake

01-25-17, 10:39 PM

Albert took a large rat on the smaller side on the 23rd, even though I had held him the day before :) So happy he's doing so well!

bigsnakegirl785

01-25-17, 10:48 PM

Yay! Sounds like he's gotten a hold on everything. :D Hopefully with all this good news we'll see some new pictures here soon. :P

EL Ziggy

01-25-17, 11:47 PM

WTG Albert!!!

SnoopySnake

01-26-17, 11:41 AM

Yay! Sounds like he's gotten a hold on everything. :D Hopefully with all this good news we'll see some new pictures here soon. :P

Definitely :D He is finally starting to show that he's putting some weight on and his scales look much better....Hopefully I can get some photos of him while hes out sometime but he doesn't care for cameras too much :) lol

SnoopySnake

02-09-17, 06:26 PM

Albert shed on Tuesday, a nice full shed :) plan on feeding him soon, I'm just out of it for a few days due to having my tonsils removed yesterday.

EL Ziggy

02-09-17, 08:20 PM

Hope you feel better Snoop. Do they still have you eat lots of ice cream when they remove your tonsils? :)

dave himself

02-10-17, 01:59 AM

Good to hear about Albert and get well soon Snoopy :)

MartinD

02-10-17, 03:29 AM

Looks like you and Albert are both on the mend, excellent news

SnoopySnake

02-11-17, 11:02 PM

Hope you feel better Snoop. Do they still have you eat lots of ice cream when they remove your tonsils? :)

Lots of cold things for sure. The first day was mostly jello, broth and water or popsicles but after that I've been able to eat more soft foods :)

Thanks for all the positive thoughts :)

Albert took a large rat this morning with no hesitation...I'll have to get new photos soon :)

toddnbecka

02-12-17, 01:48 AM

I'm surprised they removed your tonsils, my impression was that they're now considered a part of the immune system and preferably left intact. Happy to hear that Albert at least doesn't have any problem with solid foods, lol. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

SnoopySnake

03-29-17, 08:22 AM

I've forgotten to update this thread wth everything going on....Albert ate abouta week ago, he's out again tonight so I'll try giving him another rat :) I will have to get updated photos soon. He's getting so much better!

dave himself

03-29-17, 08:35 AM

Glad to hear he's doing well, and shame on you for no pics :D

SnoopySnake

04-19-17, 06:39 AM

Albert shed last night, have to get him out later to clean his tub so hopefully I'll have some new photos for you guys :) Switched him to a cypress/eco earth substrate to keep humidity better and less mess.

dave himself

04-19-17, 08:14 AM

If there's no pics this time, there's gonna be a riot :D

dannybgoode

04-19-17, 08:32 AM

I love albertisii - especially freshly shed ones. Pics or it didn't happen!

SnoopySnake

04-20-17, 08:26 AM

Challenge accepted :D he was not in a very good mood yesterday.

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