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npgoodness
06-11-15, 05:30 PM
I found this snake on a rock wall outside my house in Maine but I'm not sure what species it is. I first thought it was a northern ringneck but it has no ring. Could this be a mutation, or is it a different snake altogether? Sorry about the sideways pictures. I imported from my phone.

SnoopySnake
06-11-15, 05:42 PM
Can you upload the pics to photobucket or something similar? It's hard to tell because the pics are a bit small.

npgoodness
06-11-15, 05:55 PM
Here, I cropped the images:

eminart
06-11-15, 06:04 PM
I don't know Maine well, but my gut tells me that is a species of garter snake, with limited striping.

npgoodness
06-11-15, 06:23 PM
I checked on the MaineHerp website and it didn't match any of the species there.

eminart
06-11-15, 06:30 PM
I'm fairly certain it's a garter with very indistinct stripes. The head is right, keeled scales, and there does appear to be faint side stripes.

FWK
06-11-15, 06:36 PM
Odd looking critter eh? I agree with eminart though, it's a Garter. Garters are surprisingly variable. I'm going to stop at the species level (Common Garter/Thamnophis sirtalis) because I'm finding conflicting information on the ranges and morphology of both subspecies that are said to be found in Maine, Eastern Garter Snake (T. s. sirtalis) and Maritime Garter Snake (T. s. pallidulus). Thanks for posting the little guy. I'll keep poking around to see if I can find a good paper on Garters.

Jrich
06-11-15, 06:40 PM
There's a good snake identification group on Facebook. There are hundreds of snakes identified every week if you wanna post the picture up there. Just type in Snake Identification on Facebook. It's a public group. Usually the snake can identified within in the first 30 minutes.

RAD House
06-11-15, 06:50 PM
I would venture to guess maritime garter as they are supposedly more common in Maine, but is definitely a subspecies of common garter T. sirtalis. Cool snake. I don't know if I have ever seen one quite so patternless.

npgoodness
06-11-15, 07:04 PM
There's a good snake identification group on Facebook. There are hundreds of snakes identified every week if you wanna post the picture up there. Just type in Snake Identification on Facebook. It's a public group. Usually the snake can identified within in the first 30 minutes.

I'll check the group out and let you guys know what they think. Thanks for the input everyone!

npgoodness
06-11-15, 07:24 PM
People are saying that it's a stripeless variant of Thamnophis sirtalis (common gartersnake). Not as exotic as I was hoping to find, but still pretty cool.

RAD House
06-11-15, 07:54 PM
It may be a common species but the patterning on it is very unique.