View Full Version : hand feeding baby bush viper
jossh27
05-17-15, 09:18 AM
whats more scary were the comments that followed the video. people didnt see a venomous potentially dangerous animal.. they saw a cute snake that was completely harmless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8HGfgxMYG0
Minkness
05-17-15, 09:36 AM
Omg where can I get one?!
(Sarcasm)
it's a matter of time....it'll be like clorox in the gene pool. sad really.
Albert Clark
05-17-15, 02:37 PM
Man, the definition of irresponsibility! After all we do to show how reptile keepers are safety conscious above all else. There should be times when if you do something that dis avows all sanity with your reptiles that they should be confiscated!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All sanity and SAFETY!!!!!!!!!!!
Minkness
05-17-15, 05:20 PM
I maaaay get flamed for this, but, I believe that a reptile owner should be able to handle the animal as he/she sees fit, so long as it doesn't endanger the animal....but...and this is a big BUT...it should not be video taped and shared with the 'general public'.
Still stupid that this guy did this...just my 2 cents.
On another note...is it just me or did it look like a cubed piece of meat and not a 'whole' food item?
Ballchris
05-17-15, 09:59 PM
what a jackass
CrotalusR#1
05-18-15, 01:10 AM
I maaaay get flamed for this, but, I believe that a reptile owner should be able to handle the animal as he/she sees fit
I see it as an Incredibly selfish act being that 1 it's completely unnecessary and 2 it will absolutely affect the rest of the responsible Venomous keepers such as myself and others, if some one who's suppose to be trusted with venomous is free handling there snakes.
Minkness
05-18-15, 04:32 AM
And that's your opinion, which is by far the more common one and SHOULD be followed by more hot keepers. I'm just a 'freedomist' (I think I just made that word up...). My beliefs are that so long as it does not cause harm to others (physical, emotional, mental, financial ect), that people should be left alone behind closed doors. I feel little or no need to protect people from their own stupidity when it comes to self damage.
Again, I know it's not a popular belief, and I hardly press it upon others, but it's mine all the same.
=)
jossh27
05-18-15, 08:15 AM
Definitely a piece of meat.
I agree and disagree with you minkness... We live In nations where you have free will to do mostly what you want and if it involves free handling hots, that's your choice! But it comes with a price to all who keep hots like when this individual gets bitten. Probably for the better that its not legal to have them where i live- this way the carless hot keepers don't post videos like this on youtube
SnoopySnake
05-18-15, 08:23 AM
But it comes with a price to all who keep hots like when this individual gets bitten.
Exactly....
Albert Clark
05-18-15, 09:15 AM
Definitely a piece of meat.
I agree and disagree with you minkness... We live In nations where you have free will to do mostly what you want and if it involves free handling hots, that's your choice! But it comes with a price to all who keep hots like when this individual gets bitten. Probably for the better that its not legal to have them where i live- this way the carless hot keepers don't post videos like this on youtube
Exactly! And just suppose he is not a certified hot keeper, gets bitten and the media is all over the story. He could of just as well fed that animal with a pair of tongs and been safer. The media will run with a story like that and here we go as a reptile nation with another huge setback. Come on, its easy to do the right thing. :pissedoff: Was he trying to show how smart he is ??????????? Mink, I understand your points and they are well intentioned.
Minkness
05-18-15, 11:02 AM
Lol. Theirs no 'intention' to my views. They are just my thoughts on it. And since we don't live in a perfectly 'intelligent' world, you guys are spot on about how the news would be sensationally broadcasted with a negative view. That is also 'wrong' imo. But I have no power over that of course.
NewHerp293
05-18-15, 11:30 AM
Definitely a piece of meat
Not to be a douche, I just read through all of the comments and he said it was a pinkie that had been cut into smaller chunks, but still looks a little weird to me. And as for the free handling in a youtube video, seems like more harm than good.
jossh27
05-18-15, 02:19 PM
Not to be a douche, I just read through all of the comments and he said it was a pinkie that had been cut into smaller chunks, but still looks a little weird to me. And as for the free handling in a youtube video, seems like more harm than good.
i don't think you're being a douche. i jnust didn't read that comment apparently
Minkness
05-18-15, 04:09 PM
Huh...that viper looks bigger than my hognose, who can readily take down a large pinkie...weird though....
pet_snake_78
05-18-15, 07:49 PM
The idea that we can prevent the ban of venomous snakes by handling them responsibly is probably a bit optimistic. Yes, keeping them hidden from the public eye will help prolong a ban a tiny bit longer, but the reality is animal rights groups and the quasi conservation groups they run to try legitimizing their views are spending a lot of money making sure anti-pet legislation gets pushed and venomous is one of the easiest areas to target. Realistically I think all we can do is put permits in place in places that are pet friendly such as states with large dog breeders, etc and hope they continue to issue new ones. They are even trying to ban frogs and salamanders. As an example of one of the quasi conservation groups take a look at Save the Frogs... this guy begs people not to keep frogs as pets wtf lol Defenders of wildlife is another great example, note that they spend considerable effort trying to pretend to be a legitimate conservation organization to hide their real agenda. Long story short, some jack arse handling a snake on youtube is not good but there are bigger fish to fry.
fainche
05-18-15, 09:22 PM
Viper is venomous but, they know if the prey is threat or not. Likewise, viper know the amount of venom they can inject to their prey.
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