All my snakes

[sophiedufort]

Here are pictures of all our snakes.
1. The wonder twins, we call them. Brazilian rainbow boas. Casey (aka Princess) is the biggest, Ally (aka Mini Me) is the youngest. They are inseparable, day and night.
2. Zoey, the ball python (aka Fatty or Farty Pants - latter nickname was given to her after she did some very loud farts that woke us up in the middle of the night)
3. Mojo, the albino ball python (aka the base jumper, as he is so eager to go explore the room, he carelessly lets himself drop off the bed every time when he can sneak to the edge)
4. Missy, the Dumeril's boa (aka The Monster). She's big and scary looking, but she is the most affectionate of them all (guys, please don't start the debate again claiming that snakes are not affectionate).
5. Dante, the het ghost boa, our latest arrival. He is clingy, and absolutely loves my husband. He seeks my husband out constantly, and climbs on him to wrap around his neck. He also loves to sleep wedged between a log and the glass of the enclosure. We are still thinking about a fitting nickname.

[lady_bug87]

"Inseperable day and night" doesn't mean cohabitated right?

[sophiedufort]

"Inseperable day and night" doesn't mean cohabitated right?

Yes, they are housed together. They are both girls. They sleep in the same hide (although they have two hides available on both the warm and cool side of the enclosure), come out of it at the same time, explore the enclosure and outside the enclosure together.

[lady_bug87]

... ok.
you and I have very different definitions of what it means to provide proper care for these animals.

I Know I won't be able to change your mind on how you choose to keep your pets and I'm not going to try. I will say this for any one else reading that cohabitation between even 2 females can cause unnecessary stress on one or both animals and should be avoided.

[MDT]

sophie.....what lady_bug87 said....don't house together....don't anthropomorphize. separate your snakes.

[Shann]

Sleeping together in the same hide is not cuddling. It's competition for prime real estate. I see no benefit to the snakes to keep them together, and I would recommend separating them.

[bigsnakegirl785]

I too would recommend separating them. They don't have the ability to bond with each other, and them "sleeping together" is just a sign of aggression and domination. If you don't feed them separately, you also run the risk of them either injuring each other while in feed mode or even cannibalizing. Feed mode can last days sometimes, not just hours, so keeping them separate for a few hours still may not dissipate their feeding response.

[Aaron_S]

Alright. We aren't going to go around and do this again. All the pertinent points of co-housing snakes has been said. We can stop beating the dead horse.

[Pogie]

Oh all very pretty but I must say I like that yellow one :)

[lady_bug87]

Alright. We aren't going to go around and do this again. All the pertinent points of co-housing snakes has been said. We can stop beating the dead horse.

obviously not since its still happening

[mistersprinkles]

obviously not since its still happening

Exactly. That is not how web forums work. The same answer has to be provided to the same question 1000 times, and after that, 1000 more. You can't count on the general public to browse previous threads when they join a new forum, or even when they are a long time member.

If a forum member sees an issue with another member's husbandry, it needs to be mentioned. The well being of living creatures who have no way of defining their own reality (ie, captive snakes) is paramount, and comes before bruised feelings or "forum etiquette".

Reptiles, invertebrates, and fish, suffer physically because of stress. They can not rationalize it like humans can. Stress can cause illness. It is dangerous.

Know what I mean?
If people HADN'T told the OP that cohabitation is a bad idea, I wouldn't want to be part of this community any more.

[jjhill001]

I think cohabitation with certain species is OK if one is willing to accept the risks and additional space requirements that will come along with it.

[mistersprinkles]

I think cohabitation with certain species is OK if one is willing to accept the risks and additional space requirements that will come along with it.

Its usually not ok though because the animals will compete with eachother causing stress. In some cases it's ok but it's definitely not ok across the board IMO.

[jjhill001]

Its usually not ok though because the animals will compete with eachother causing stress. In some cases it's ok but it's definitely not ok across the board IMO.

No certainly not across the board.

[lady_bug87]

Regardless if its ok in some cases this isn't one of them. BRBs shouldn't be housed together especially since if you notice they aren't even the same size.

[Nuxodom]

Regardless if its ok in some cases this isn't one of them. BRBs shouldn't be housed together especially since if you notice they aren't even the same size.

I've housed BRBs together for a long, long time. There have been absolutely no issues whatsoever.

You just seem like a bitter person, always looking to "jab" someone, IMHO. I disagree with about everything you think is right and proper regarding snakes; but, I don't go throwing flames at you. Your opinion is fine...but it's just an opinion.

[mistersprinkles]

I've housed BRBs together for a long, long time. There have been absolutely no issues whatsoever.

You just seem like a bitter person, always looking to "jab" someone, IMHO. I disagree with about everything you think is right and proper regarding snakes; but, I don't go throwing flames at you. Your opinion is fine...but it's just an opinion.

I think she's right, but that's just IMHO.

[lady_bug87]

I've housed BRBs together for a long, long time. There have been absolutely no issues whatsoever.

You just seem like a bitter person, always looking to "jab" someone, IMHO. I disagree with about everything you think is right and proper regarding snakes; but, I don't go throwing flames at you. Your opinion is fine...but it's just an opinion.

what exactly are you disagreeing with considering I just got back here after being away for more than a year? Unless you're searching waaay back in my posting history you have no idea What I keep or how I keep it. Further more things in my collection have changed since I last posted. But please have at it.

AIso, I don't know you well enough for you to make observations about my personality.

[lady_bug87]

I think she's right, but that's just IMHO.

Doesn't matter if you agree with me he's been cohabiting a long long time and I'm just a bitter because reasons.

[Nuxodom]

I think she's right, but that's just IMHO.

All good. I disagree, but it's fine. For 40 years I've had certain snakes housed together with great success. Some, obviously, cannot cohabit together.

[Nuxodom]

what exactly are you disagreeing with considering I just got back here after being away for more than a year? Unless you're searching waaay back in my posting history you have no idea What I keep or how I keep it. Further more things in my collection have changed since I last posted. But please have at it.

AIso, I don't know you well enough for you to make observations about my personality.

I'm just going on your recent replies, which are usually just bitter commentary, looking for anything to flame about. I suppose you have your reasons.

My personality? Well, I don't hunt posts just to make rude remarks. That's all you need to know.

Have a wonderful day!

[mistersprinkles]

Doesn't matter if you agree with me he's been cohabiting a long long time and I'm just a bitter because reasons.

Are you seriously going off on me after I made two posts supporting your point of view?? :o

[lady_bug87]

Are you seriously going off on me after I made two posts supporting your point of view?? :o

Never! Just stating the obvious. ;)

[mistersprinkles]

Never! Just stating the obvious. ;)

Phew! Sorry for mis-reading your post. :D

[lady_bug87]

I'm just going on your recent replies, which are usually just bitter commentary, looking for anything to flame about. I suppose you have your reasons.

My personality? Well, I don't hunt posts just to make rude remarks. That's all you need to know.

Have a wonderful day!

You can do.something wrong for 40 years. Nothing in my rerecent posts go into how or what I keep so you're disagreeing with what exactly?

[MDT]

dang girl....quit being so bitter.




:D

[lady_bug87]

dang girl....quit being so bitter.




:D

I can't! It's a part of the mysterious magic that makes me me!

[Nuxodom]

You can do.something wrong for 40 years. Nothing in my rerecent posts go into how or what I keep so you're disagreeing with what exactly?

You can do something wrong for 40 years, something right for 40 years, something right and something wrong for 40 years. You missed the latter two.

But, I digress. I'm done feeding you; so, you get the last word.

Have a minty-fresh day!

[MDT]

I can't! It's a part of the mysterious magic that makes me me!

i thought it was the cylon in you :)

[lady_bug87]

You can do something wrong for 40 years, something right for 40 years, something right and something wrong for 40 years. You missed the latter two.

But, I digress. I'm done feeding you; so, you get the last word.

Have a minty-fresh day!

I didn't miss them, they just don't apply here :)

i thouid it was the cylon in you :)

Perhaps... but isn't that in itself magic? ;)