Top HOT for those who cannot

[reptiledude987]

So just wondering for those of us woh cant legally own hots or dont have the knowledge or trainning to keep them. If these werent factors and they could be kept properly and safely in your collection simply for the sake there are some truely beautiful hots out there what would you have?

For myself if I could it would be the rhinoceros viper and or temple viper.

** CLAIRIFICATION: I am NOT advocating breaking any local laws or putting ourselves in a dangerous situations. This simply for the purpose of being able to see some species some of may have never heard of or seen before.

[Minkness]

I lobe rattlers honestly. But I have seen this green viper thing where the scales are all spikey and look like little leaves. That thing was AWESOME!

[reptiledude987]

aah thats the hairy bush viper! that would absolutely be on my list too. somehow forgot about those cute little buggers.

[SSSSnakes]

Rhino Vipers

[Jim Smith]

There are a number of them that I would love to keep. If I had to start with only one, it would be a Rhino Viper. I could probably keep hots if I wanted to since the laws don't prevent it where I live. That said, the risk simply outweighs the benefits - at least for me. Just one man's opinion.

[pet_snake_78]

Bothriechis aurifer

[SSSSnakes]

Bothriechis aurifer

That's Yellow-blotched Palm Pit Viper for those who don't understand Latin. Beautiful snake.

[prairiepanda]

King cobras! They are just so incredibly beautiful! I love the colour changes they go through too. I've also seen some cool captive bred morphs of other cobra species. I wouldn't actually keep them even if I had the legal freedom, knowledge, and experience to do so though. However I would love an opportunity to see someone else's collection!

[valid]

Black mamba, just because they fascinate me ... Or a boomslang

[Aaron_S]

So just wondering for those of us woh cant legally own hots or dont have the knowledge or trainning to keep them. If these werent factors and they could be kept properly and safely in your collection simply for the sake there are some truely beautiful hots out there what would you have?

For myself if I could it would be the rhinoceros viper and or temple viper.

** CLAIRIFICATION: I am NOT advocating breaking any local laws or putting ourselves in a dangerous situations. This simply for the purpose of being able to see some species some of may have never heard of or seen before.

Nope.

I wouldn't because it's still a risk to myself and those around me. Not worth the smallest chance of losing any of that.

[pet_snake_78]

Ehhh, I am not fond of the risks either. I would not want to keep a snake because it's venomous but inspite of it. Many of the world's most beautiful snakes are venomous. In my case, if I ever do keep any I am going to have a very few number and always use tools to handle them. The small is number is so that anytime something dangerous needs done I can afford to pay a vet to do the dirty work lol
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[trailblazer295]

I'm of the mind I don't want a pet that can kill me. I'll go to a zoo if I want to see them or I'll watch a documentary.

[reptiledude987]

These last 3 posters are missing the point of this thread completly! I realize that thes are dangerous animals as clearly stated in opening post. The point of the thread is because there are many beautiful deadly species IF they WEREN'T DANGEROUS AT ALL what would you want SOLELY BASED ON APPEARENCE. Didn't think I deeded to make the original post clearer but I guess I was wrong.

[Minkness]

Lol I knew what you meant. I personally find most rattlers beautiful. I love their body shapes, head shapes, that rustic natural color, as well as some of the morphs they have now. I also love that sound they make! As for the bush viper, same reasons really. If they weren't venomous at all, bet your buttons I'd have a few! That's why I like hognoses though is because they remind me of rattlers.

Dream lizard...Gila monster and an American alligator.

Dream GIANT snake....the purple fire albino retic, and a rather normal burm. Not a fan of condas though.

All are dangerous, all make me happy, will probably never own any. Lol.

[Batch]

Mexican Beaded Lizard for sure. Not anywhere near as dangerous as most of what you guys have listed. But you say no to this smile.

[D Grade]

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Crotalus Molossus (Black-Tailed Rattlesnake) for me. Native species here in AZ so they are legal to keep. Brilliant patterns and different colors per region and altitude. One of the more placid and calm species, have a higher venom yield volume but not nearly as toxic as more potent species. Only reason I dont have one yet is because I dont have space nor a secure place to keep him.

[Aaron_S]

These last 3 posters are missing the point of this thread completly! I realize that thes are dangerous animals as clearly stated in opening post. The point of the thread is because there are many beautiful deadly species IF they WEREN'T DANGEROUS AT ALL what would you want SOLELY BASED ON APPEARENCE. Didn't think I deeded to make the original post clearer but I guess I was wrong.

You didn't say changing the animal itself to be completely different. Komodo Dragon naturally bro.

I could be a wet blanket and go on about how venomoid animals aren't cool. :D

[SSSSnakes]

You didn't say changing the animal itself to be completely different. Komodo Dragon naturally bro.

I could be a wet blanket and go on about how venomoid animals aren't cool. :D

I agree, venomoids are not cool. I don't think that is what reptiledude987 was talking about. Hew as just asking if venomous snakes were legal and not dangerous o keep, what ones would you want to have. He never said anything about surgically altering the snake. This thread is about what if.

[Aaron_S]

I agree, venomoids are not cool. I don't think that is what reptiledude987 was talking about. Hew as just asking if venomous snakes were legal and not dangerous o keep, what ones would you want to have. He never said anything about surgically altering the snake. This thread is about what if.

The second sentence was sarcasm.

[reptiledude987]

Lol I knew what you meant. I personally find most rattlers beautiful. I love their body shapes, head shapes, that rustic natural color, as well as some of the morphs they have now. I also love that sound they make! As for the bush viper, same reasons really. If they weren't venomous at all, bet your buttons I'd have a few! That's why I like hognoses though is because they remind me of rattlers.

Dream lizard...Gila monster and an American alligator.

Dream GIANT snake....the purple fire albino retic, and a rather normal burm. Not a fan of condas though.

All are dangerous, all make me happy, will probably never own any. Lol.
Well I'm glad somebody got what I was getting at. That was the point here. If they didnt have the ability to kill me I'd have a few of the different types of bush vipers.

[reptiledude987]

I agree, venomoids are not cool. I don't think that is what reptiledude987 was talking about. Hew as just asking if venomous snakes were legal and not dangerous o keep, what ones would you want to have. He never said anything about surgically altering the snake. This thread is about what if.
Yes exactaly. Thank you.

[Albert Clark]

For me, it would have to be a hatchling king cobra! They have to be one of the most striking in appearance. I mean fresh out of the egg! :blink:

[reptiledude987]

For me, it would have to be a hatchling king cobra! They have to be one of the most striking in appearance. I mean fresh out of the egg! :blink:
True. I once saw a vid of a hatchling albino king cobra. it was pretty damn dute and still the full attitude of an adult.

[Minkness]

What does venomoid mean?

[D Grade]

What does venomoid mean?

Ive always assumed that it is an animal capable of injecting venom and envenomating a human being (aka: a "hot"), whether front hinged fang, front fixed fang, or rear fang. Front hinged fangs species include Crotalus/Sistrus (Rattlesnakes) and other Pit Vipers and Viperidae. Front fixed fangs including Naja (Cobras) and Mamba species, rear fanged including Boiga Dendrophila (Mangrove) and even Hognose snakes.

[SnoopySnake]

What does venomoid mean?

Venomoids are hots that have had their venom glands removed. I'm not sure if hots that have fangs removed count since they grow back and can still produce venom.

As far as the original question goes, I'm not sure. It's a tough call, but I'd probably go with a Trimeresurus mangshanensis-Mangshan Pit Viper.

[Koosman09]

What up guys. Just got my self a male bush viper. What size terrarium do you guys Reccomemd. I have him in a exo terra 18x18x18. Do you think that's too small. I do want to get a female down the road. Thanks

[Derek1]

Gaboon for me. Beautiful snakes. I am fascinated by them.

[EL Ziggy]

I'd like an Albino Monocled Cobra.

[Koosman09]

Anyone into bush babies. Just got one obsessed with it!!

[Koosman09]

Bush vipers! Just got one sunday!