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jossh27
03-19-15, 10:55 AM
I feed my snake in a plastic tote to avoid her accidentally ingesting the aspen shavings In her actual cage. i don't have tote set up with a heat source or bedding...only a bit of newspaper to keep the tote clean. I know people say don't handle for 48 hours after feedings but i don't want to keep her in the bin. Would it do much harm if i gently picked her up after a couple hours and set her back I her cage?
SnoopySnake
03-19-15, 10:58 AM
As long as your temps and humidity are correct, ingesting a little bit of substrate won't hurt. Keeping her in the bin isn't a good idea, it won't allow for proper digestion. Feeding in the enclosure is also less stressful for the snake.
reptiledude987
03-19-15, 11:03 AM
I wouldnt bother feeding outside the cage. just put the prey item on a piece of paper towel and leave him in the terrarium
Jim Smith
03-19-15, 11:07 AM
I'm with SnoopySnake on this one. I used to feed outside the enclosure for a different reason and found that feeding them inside the enclosure is both easier for me and a lot less stressful on my snakes. I put the mice on small trays in the enclosure and they usually come right out and gobble them up. If you thaw your food items in warm water and feed them wet, they will pick up some aspen chips, but not as much as you think and it does not seem to bother the snakes at all. If you put you food items in a plastic bag to thaw them and feed them dry, there is very little aspen picked up. I also switched over to Sani-chips although for a different reason, but I feel that the possibility of a sharp splinter being ingested and causing harm is virtually zero.
jossh27
03-19-15, 11:13 AM
I'll give it a go next feeding. Also, shed a cali king full grown ( over 4 feet) i feed her two full size mice every two weeks. But i was thinking of changing to one mouse weekly... Thoughts?
SSSSnakes
03-19-15, 11:20 AM
I'll give it a go next feeding. Also, shed a cali king full grown ( over 4 feet) i feed her two full size mice every two weeks. But i was thinking of changing to one mouse weekly... Thoughts?
I agree with all the others, feed inside the enclosure. I feed all my adult snakes every two weeks and my babies every week.
EL Ziggy
03-19-15, 03:09 PM
I feed all my snakes in their enclosures also and I've never had any issues with digested substrate. My kings get 1 or 2 jumbo mice every 7-10 days.
After finding this forum and reading up about feed in/out of the enclosure, I only feed in. And have had great results. Eat like champs and no handling issues. But I'm on bio-active sub. I would feed them on aspen and sani in the enclosure too though.
I use to feed all my snakes outside the enclosure and boy did that take some time. I mainly did it because I thought it would decrease the chance of mistaking me as a prey item. However I realized this was not the case because I'm in their enclosures throughout the week spot cleaning or changing out waters or handling. I've been feeding my snakes inside the enclosure for a few years now and it's been great with no change in behavior. I agree with everyone else that it might be more stressful to feed outside the enclosure. I use little trays or set the prey item on a paper towel. My snakes usually gobble it down right on the tray. On another note if you have to move a snake that might still be in "hunt mode" use a snake hook. Those are great!
Think of all the jungle floor crap that gets stuck on a saliva covered rain-soaked capybara just constricted by an anaconda in the Amazon.....and then ingested.
A little aspen isn't gonna hurt.....plus, the added stress of having to move them back Into their enclosure after eating....just no upside really.
jossh27
03-20-15, 08:00 AM
Think of all the jungle floor crap that gets stuck on a saliva covered rain-soaked capybara just constricted by an anaconda in the Amazon.....and then ingested.
thats the most practical thing I've read here
jossh27
03-20-15, 08:05 AM
ill start feeding in her cage. do you guys find your kings have a lame feeding response? my caliking is fully grown and on f/t and litteraly just crwls up to the mouse and starts eating it... i was so pumped up to see her eat for the first time and when i saw finally fed her, i was so let down haha
i was thinking about giving her a live stunned mouse once just to see if i could get her back into a hunt mode... is that a bad idea?
EL Ziggy
03-20-15, 10:25 AM
If your snake is eating without any issues I wouldn't offer a live feeder. Have you tried dangling/dancing the prey from tongs to illicit a strike from your snake? My Cal King will strike and constrict his f/t prey straight from the tongs. My MBK will sometimes strike if she's really hungry but most times she just wants her food dropped in her tank and she'll eat when nobody's looking. My bulls just snatch and devour their food.
drumcrush
03-20-15, 11:51 AM
Think of all the jungle floor crap that gets stuck on a saliva covered rain-soaked capybara just constricted by an anaconda in the Amazon.....and then ingested.
A little aspen isn't gonna hurt.....plus, the added stress of having to move them back Into their enclosure after eating....just no upside really.i love sausage festival!
drumcrush
03-20-15, 11:53 AM
i love sausage festival!
-.- my friend wrote this, ignore
kateness91
03-20-15, 12:06 PM
I feed mine in totes inside their aquariums .. My sand boas anyways and I generally take them out the following day. Works like a dream.. That's only because they never come out from under the sane long enough
jossh27
03-20-15, 12:54 PM
If your snake is eating without any issues I wouldn't offer a live feeder. Have you tried dangling/dancing the prey from tongs to illicit a strike from your snake? My Cal King will strike and constrict his f/t prey straight from the tongs. My MBK will sometimes strike if she's really hungry but most times she just wants her food dropped in her tank and she'll eat when nobody's looking. My bulls just snatch and devour their food.
She'll strike, and hold onto it like a dog playing tug of war if i play matter of puppets with the mouse, but she doesn't constrict it. Guess I'll just have to wait till my next snake to get that fulfilling, aggressive strike and kill factor I'm looking for in a snake.
She's extremely gentle i guess her personality reflects her feeding response
jossh27
03-20-15, 12:57 PM
i love sausage festival!
Who doesn't love a good sausage-fest ;)
-.- my friend wrote this, ignore
Suuuuuuure....
reptiledude987
03-20-15, 01:59 PM
She'll strike, and hold onto it like a dog playing tug of war if i play matter of puppets with the mouse, but she doesn't constrict it. Guess I'll just have to wait till my next snake to get that fulfilling, aggressive strike and kill factor I'm looking for in a snake.
She's extremely gentle i guess her personality reflects her feeding response
I'm feeding tomorrow if you want to see some aggressive feeding come watch Rancor and Sarlacc eat. they dont play aruond with the smell of food in the air.
jossh27
03-20-15, 02:22 PM
I have my little guy this weekend, but thanks for the offer, Justin
i love sausage festival!
dude...this, by far, has got to be the most random response to anything i've ever seen on this forum...and that includes some of the stuff by our friend EB97.
Tell your friend "good job" :D
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