lets see whats rare out there

[herplover]

If youve got something unique lets see it. Not looking for morphs here (as much as there are many rare and unique morphs). Lets show off some of our rare species we dont all see in every pet store and expo. I think my beakies are my most obscure species. Lets see what else is out there and let us know why they're rare in the hobby.

I believe the rufous beaked snakes are rare due to the fact I havent heard of any successful captive breeding.

[millertime89]

I have a pair of timor pythons and an aussie water python. Not the rarest but not exactly common. I don't have any pictures available on my work computer.

[CrotalusR#1]

OP, are you talking about rare as a species or rare in the pet trade?

[SSSSnakes]

My Mangrove Pit Viper. I haven't seen a lot of people keeping them.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/MagroveViper2-1.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/MagroveViper2-1.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF5255.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF5255.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/5.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/5.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/015-24.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/015-24.jpg.html)

[CrotalusR#1]

Crotalus oreganus lutosus ( Great Basin rattlensnake)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/10706464204_bb351a0bd4_b.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/13976697231_7a037a9798_b.jpg

[herplover]

I have a pair of timor pythons and an aussie water python. Not the rarest but not exactly common. I don't have any pictures available on my work computer.
Awesome share some pics when you get home. Would love to see them!

[herplover]

OP, are you talking about rare as a species or rare in the pet trade?
Either one. If you have it and its one of the hard to find species lets see it!

[herplover]

My Mangrove Pit Viper. I haven't seen a lot of people keeping them.


http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/5.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/5.jpg.html)


Love this Pic

[CrotalusR#1]

Speckled rattlesnake. crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/13932323927_2a4094d1b9_b.jpg

[herplover]

Speckled rattlesnake. crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus

Be still my heart. Those are some really nice hots youve got there.

[SSSSnakes]

Speckled rattlesnake. crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/13932323927_2a4094d1b9_b.jpg

Very nice. I just got rid of mine.

[Will0W783]

I have a Trimeresurus yunnanensis- Yunnan Province Bamboo pit viper. This species was only discovered about 5 years ago and this girl was one of the first shipment into this country. She's small and alert, and has a really uniquely flat, angry-looking head.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/Will0W783/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-08/20140803_122452_zpsoohlu75k.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/Will0W783/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-08/20140802_100021_zpsncrim6p4.jpg

[Ballchris]

I would love to have a pit viper, but Kentucky ban's keeping venomous snakes

[CrotalusR#1]

Very nice. I just got rid of mine.

What!, I don't think I could ever go with out a blue and white speck.

Do you have any pictures of it?

[herplover]

What are the reasons that make these guys rare in the trade. aside from being hots of course.

[CrotalusR#1]

I believe it's do to the fact that a large majority of there range is in states where it is illegal to sell, buy, trade or barter native reptiles and most other animals that are native.


I have posted this picture before but I'll post it agin so you can see what the rest of the snake looks like...

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/14139066973_ab6afbd4f8_b.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/13932356689_24b650a5c6_b.jpg

[yeloowtang]

this thread is going to be awesome, love them all but i have a soft spot for green snakes :)
that VIPER is a dream snake for me .. too bad i will never get to own one :(

[Minkness]

Any non-venomous?

[herplover]

So far everything posted on this thread is venomous. Mine is probably the least dangerous of them being rear fanged with very mild venom with no reported injurys from them on file. Plus theyer so passive I think the only reason they may strike would be a feeding response. Which is also unlikely as they wont even feed from tongs simply off a plate.

[SSSSnakes]

What!, I don't think I could ever go with out a blue and white speck.

Do you have any pictures of it?

I trade off many of my snakes to keep my collection diversified for my shows. This way people see many different kinds of snakes each year when they attend one of my shows.

[IW17]

My water python, liasis fuscus. The only thing I have that is uncommon in the pet trade.

[herplover]

Water python is pretty cool. Finally a non venomous on the thread!

Super cool colours on him/her is it more of a green or blue in natural light? hard to tell in the pics they always distort colours a bit.

[SSSSnakes]

Here is a non venomous snake I use to have, Calabar Python

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF5988.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF5988.jpg.html)

[Minkness]

Oh neat. That's the one that uses the blunt tail as a decoy right?

[herplover]

Oh neat. That's the one that uses the blunt tail as a decoy right?
If it dosent it should lol.

Took me a sec to se which end was up on that little fella. Thats pretty neat havent seen them before.

[CrotalusR#1]

Here is a non venomous snake I use to have, Calabar Python

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF5988.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF5988.jpg.html)

To me these are one of those snakes that aren't necessarily the pretties but cool to have in a collection because of what they are. I haven't seen one for sale near me but when I do I'll probably pick it up...

IW17, I have always loved the greenish blue hue of water pythons, very cool.

[jjhill001]

Great pics guys!

[SSSSnakes]

Amazon Basin Emerald Tree Boa

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/012-31.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/012-31.jpg.html)

[Derek1]

Some great looking snakes! I really like the Speckled.

[Pareeeee]

Wow, some great pics. I'm really enjoying this thread. So far my favourite is the Mangrove Pit Viper. Awesome looking snake.

[millertime89]

Here's Ton Jones holding my Aussie Water Python shortly after I purchased him. Apparently Ton used to keep them.
https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/550462_218896748241112_56056463_n.jpg?oh=aaabbff01 fc0b513feca7c99e754f151&oe=554A4CB6

My male Timor.
https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/603809_289772857820167_1582158160_n.jpg?oh=d5684d0 c23c6fc5cef1afaa86f291f79&oe=558FE19D

My female
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10978633_602745566522893_1853203407137314733_n.jpg ?oh=73ad3e2c923a8b30989ac0fe1802cd8f&oe=55927F34&__gda__=1435539550_e1fdf1efc34b236d4c083330898369d 2

[CrotalusR#1]

That's a good looking animal!

[D Grade]

I trade off many of my snakes to keep my collection diversified for my shows. This way people see many different kinds of snakes each year when they attend one of my shows.

Where are your shows? Do you ever come down to Az?

[SSSSnakes]

Where are your shows? Do you ever come down to Az?

We only do shows in NY and PA. Too many different laws in each state to deal with.

[SnoopySnake]

My male Timor.

My female


How are the temperaments on these? I've heard they're not too friendly. They're beautiful though, how big should they get?

[millertime89]

How are the temperaments on these? I've heard they're not too friendly. They're beautiful though, how big should they get?

Thanks. They're not too bad for the most part. I've been bit twice by the male (both were completely my fault though), never by the female (but I've only had her for about 9 months). The female is CH (so the mom was on a "farm" and the eggs were harvested and hatched in captivity) and the male is an F1 CBB animal (one of the few in the US). They both pee/poop/musk when handled but usually don't bite. They're very flighty.

They usually top out under 6 foot. But they're not very common. Not too many people have successfully bred them.

[CrotalusR#1]

Crotalus oreganus concolor, midget faded



https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2893/10752914476_bdd6941590_b.jpg

[Kuamata]

My Mangrove Pit Viper. I haven't seen a lot of people keeping them.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/MagroveViper2-1.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/MagroveViper2-1.jpg.html)

SUPER jealous of this beauty. I'm in the same boat as Chris, though. Kentucky bans all venomous and rear-fanged venomous(aside from the Hognose) as pets. Otherwise I have a nice list of rear-fanged hots I wouldn't mind adding to my collection. If there weren't laws against them, I'd have a Mangrove snake, Green Vine Snake, and False Water Cobras.

Now, these ones I'm not so sure whether they're in the pet trade or not, and, if so, how common or uncommon they are, but I think they're really gorgeous and would love to have one. The Green and Red varieties of Keelback Snakes, Boomslangs, and the Regal Ring-necked Snake(REALLY love this one).

There are MANY hots that I really love that aren't rear-fanged, so best not list 'em all. I am a huge fan of vipers, however, I just know they have a wicked fast strike.

I do agree, though, I'd like to see more rare non-venomous. :)

[SoPhilly]

Aren't keelbacks non-venomous, but poisonous? Or are they venemous, too? I for some reason had the impression that without eating the cane toads, they eventually have no poison left in their bodies... though admittedly I know barely anything about these guys.

[Kuamata]

Aren't keelbacks non-venomous, but poisonous? Or are they venemous, too? I for some reason had the impression that without eating the cane toads, they eventually have no poison left in their bodies... though admittedly I know barely anything about these guys.

I thought they were both. A poisonous patch on the back of their 'neck', and then rear-fanged venomous like hoggies and mangroves. I'll admit to not knowing a whole lot about 'em, though.

[IW17]

Water python is pretty cool. Finally a non venomous on the thread!

Super cool colours on him/her is it more of a green or blue in natural light? hard to tell in the pics they always distort colours a bit.

Brown/green with a bright yellow belly and some of the craziest bright iridescence of all snakes. Very active and has a feed response that would humble a retic.

[SSSSnakes]

I thought they were both. A poisonous patch on the back of their 'neck', and then rear-fanged venomous like hoggies and mangroves. I'll admit to not knowing a whole lot about 'em, though.

Red Necked Keelbacks are rear fang, highly venomous to humans if they get a chewing bite.

[herplover]

This thread has turned out better than I had hoped! Also glad others are enjoying it as well. I may have an addition for it soon as well. I'm waiting on a file snake to arrive. Last time I saw one of them was around 6 or 7 years ago at an expo. As soon as it arrives I'll get some pics up!

[Kuamata]

It'd be awesome if someone had a Mangshan Viper they could post pics of. If I could only have one reptile in my life, I think I'd be happy with a Mangshan. Granted it'd be display only, I'd be happy with that. That or a monitor. I do love monitors.

[D Grade]

More Crotalus's please! Anyone have a Crotalus Oreganus Cerberus aka Arizona Black Rattlesnake? Thats my favorite Crotalus very closely followed by Crotalus Molossus.

[SSSSnakes]

More Crotalus's please! Anyone have a Crotalus Oreganus Cerberus aka Arizona Black Rattlesnake? Thats my favorite Crotalus very closely followed by Crotalus Molossus.

By your Command. Arizona Black Rattlers.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF6373-2.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF6373-2.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF6378-2.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF6378-2.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF6379-2.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF6379-2.jpg.html)

[CrotalusR#1]

More Crotalus's please! Anyone have a Crotalus Oreganus Cerberus aka Arizona Black Rattlesnake? Thats my favorite Crotalus very closely followed by Crotalus Molossus.

There actually no longer oreganus they made them there own species, it's just crotalus Cerberus. Crotalus can be a very confusing family to learn the names of because they are always changing there Latin names.

[CrotalusR#1]

nice cerb, any idea of it's local?

[Boots]

Well I guess I will chime in with my garter snake as it is rare and not seen at shows. I have a San Francisco garter snake. He does not look as striking as some of his kind I have seen, but he is nice. I will try to post pictures later.

Jason

[D Grade]

By your Command. Arizona Black Rattlers.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF6373-2.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF6373-2.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF6378-2.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF6378-2.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/DSCF6379-2.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/DSCF6379-2.jpg.html)

I swear you and CrotalusR#1 are the man. Thats my favorite of the Crotalus family. Hows their temperament in captivity and where do you find these guys?

There actually no longer oreganus they made them there own species, it's just crotalus Cerberus. Crotalus can be a very confusing family to learn the names of because they are always changing there Latin names.

Thanks for the info, seems like as soon as you learn it changes, lol. :)

[SSSSnakes]

nice cerb, any idea of it's local?

Nope, that does not matter to me. Even if they would have told me, I would have forgotten.

[SSSSnakes]

I swear you and CrotalusR#1 are the man. Thats my favorite of the Crotalus family. Hows their temperament in captivity and where do you find these guys?



Thanks for the info, seems like as soon as you learn it changes, lol. :)

I got them from my private venomous guy. I have a guy that can find me just about anything I want. Their temperament is calm, but very active.

[CrotalusR#1]

Nope, that does not matter to me. Even if they would have told me, I would have forgotten.

Reason I ask is because of the huge variation from mountain to mountain with Cerberus and other crotes. So if some one has a cerb in mined that they want that they have seen pictures of online and they go to buy one thinking it's going to look like that, that may not be the case because of the variations, that's just why I like to know locals so I know what I am getting .

[SSSSnakes]

Reason I ask is because of the huge variation from mountain to mountain with Cerberus and other crotes. So if some one has a cerb in mined that they want that they have seen pictures of online and they go to buy one thinking it's going to look like that, that may not be the case because of the variations, that's just why I like to know locals so I know what I am getting .

Yea I know, but I enjoy all the color and pattern differences, so it never matters to me where they come from. I know many people like locals, I'm just not one of them.

[CrotalusR#1]

Yea I know, but I enjoy all the color and pattern differences, so it never matters to me where they come from. I know many people like locals, I'm just not one of them.

I totally get that. There are many species where it could be what some people would call dull or whatever and it's more about having the a species. Like most crotalus oreganus concolor are that way for me, usually a faded badge color but that's one of my all time favorite snakes.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2830/10706913413_58429be50b_b.jpg

[FluffyGerbil]

I once considered buying a baby Elephant trunk snake. Pretty glad I didn't. The wrinklyness of them makes them quite adorable imo. But I'm not prepared for that kind of commitment, as I hear they're quite demanding care-wise! XD

I think in the future I'll stick with Asian vine snakes. They're very charming and I love their eyes!

[Roman]

Some of my Colubrids…

They are not really rare but also not common

Two Colubrids from south east Asia

Red tailed green rat snake (Gonyosoma oxycephalum)


http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/Gonyosoma_0824_zpsf7c1e9ae.jpg
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2861_zps7e1fd364.jpg
Rhino rat snake (Rhynchophis boulengeri)


http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2608_zps94e9fa11.jpg
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2868_zpsb5d7d981.jpg
Perhaps the most exotic Colubrid for you US/Canadian herpers, a European rat snake

Aesculapian snake (Zamenis longissimus)

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2847_zpsda5a6869.jpg

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2849_zps6a8583cc.jpg

...

[Roman]

...

From South America (Argentina)

Barons racer (Philodryas baroni)

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2859_zps67eb81a5.jpg

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2850_zps5ba7d222.jpg


And from Central to South America

Tiger rat snake (Spilotes pullatus)

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2885_zpsmnb8yvpn.jpg


http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2890_zpsqnolnxya.jpg

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/elaphe420/IMG_2888_zpsseewp54d.jpg



Roman

[Roman]

I think in the future I'll stick with Asian vine snakes. They're very charming and I love their eyes!



I don’t think that’s a good idea, we discussed this here --> http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-colubrid-forum/107405-asian-vine-snake.html

You need to feed the vine snakes with lizards, so it might be difficult to get enough food year-round.

Roman

[smy_749]

cbb V. prasinus

[FluffyGerbil]

I don’t think that’s a good idea, we discussed this here --> http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-colubrid-forum/107405-asian-vine-snake.html

You need to feed the vine snakes with lizards, so it might be difficult to get enough food year-round.

Roman

Thanks, I know. ;)

I've been researching them for a while now. It's kinda a shame they aren't really cb. I'd still love to have one some day.

I'll have to check out that post!