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CosmicOwl
01-24-15, 02:58 PM
It's been two weeks since my grey rat snake last ate, which is unusual for him. When he didn't eat last week, I assumed he must be getting ready to shed, because that is essentially the only time he will turn down food. After another week though, he hasn't gone into shed and he's been very active. Every night he has been out patrolling his enclosure as if he was hunting.

I've offered him mice, rats and a chick, but he hasn't attempted to eat any of them. He smells them and even follows them a bit, but won't commit to biting. It's almost like he changes his mind at the last. Otherwise, he seems healthy. He's active, alert and has plenty of energy. So, my next thought is that he might be fasting for breeding season. However, it seems a bit early and I haven't done anything to simulation a changing of the seasons

He's 17 months old, about 4.5 feet long and 436 grams, which seems a bit on the young/small side. He's kept at the same temps, in the same room with two other snakes that still eating. What do you guys think? Is he fasting or maybe just taking a break for some other unexplainable snake reason?

Cmwells90
01-24-15, 04:29 PM
I wouldn't say he's getting ready for anything. Two weeks is still early for a snake to not eat. I would just keep offering and assume this is normal.

Plus I think he's too young to be ready to breed or going into a breeding "mode"

CosmicOwl
01-25-15, 03:33 PM
I wouldn't say he's getting ready for anything. Two weeks is still early for a snake to not eat. I would just keep offering and assume this is normal.

Plus I think he's too young to be ready to breed or going into a breeding "mode"

I would agree, but this isn't normal behavior. He never refuses to eat unless he's going to shed. I'm worried about it, but it does seem strange to me.

IW17
01-25-15, 05:17 PM
Idk where you live but consider the time of year. Some snakes will fast in the winter months. And considering g garters are a species that naturally hibernate, it wouldn't surprise me if their feeding habits got a little off pattern in the winter.

EL Ziggy
01-25-15, 06:41 PM
If his temps and humidity are in line I wouldn't worry at all Owl. It's about that time of year when a lot of snakes go off feed. Sometimes it's the cooler temps and it could be due to breeding season. Your little boy is becoming a man :). Both my kings are just a little older than your rat and they have both taken long food breaks this year. The male is eating regularly now after 3 months of intermittent feeding but the female hasn't eaten in 3 weeks. Keep offering food every 7-10 days until he comes around. I also don't think he's particularly small for his age. Rats and Kings are pretty comparable colubrids. My Cal King is 2 and weighs about 470g. My MBK will be 2 in April and she weighs 550g. Your guy seems right in line. Keep us posted.

CosmicOwl
02-28-15, 02:15 PM
I haven't been around lately, but I thought I would update you guys. He's only eaten one mouse since I made this post. However, I've been watching his weight and he hasn't lost a gram. He's still active and alert, but hasn't shed. I've been offering him food every week, but he's just not interested in eating.

EL Ziggy
02-28-15, 02:57 PM
I haven't been around lately, but I thought I would update you guys. He's only eaten one mouse since I made this post. However, I've been watching his weight and he hasn't lost a gram. He's still active and alert, but hasn't shed. I've been offering him food every week, but he's just not interested in eating.
I think you're ok Owl. I'd offer food every 10-14 days until he starts eating again so you don't waste as many feeders. My MBK has only eaten 5 times in the last 4 months. She's not losing weight either. I'm pretty sure they'll pick up as the temps warm up and/or breeding season winds down.

CosmicOwl
03-05-15, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the reply. I'm sure he's okay, but it's just a little frustrating. I haven't been wasting food with though. What he turns down I feed to my male corn snake, who isn't off food.

Derek1
03-05-15, 10:50 PM
Have you left the food in the enclosure overnight?

CosmicOwl
03-06-15, 01:13 PM
Have you left the food in the enclosure overnight?

Yeah, he's not interested in it.

sharthun
03-07-15, 10:55 AM
As ez said I wouldn't worry. Snakes do funny things when hormones are rampant. Lol

toddnbecka
03-08-15, 01:45 AM
As ez said I wouldn't worry. Snakes do funny things when hormones are rampant. Lol

Didn't (or don't) we all? :D

sharthun
03-08-15, 10:45 AM
Didn't (or don't) we all? :D

Lol so true!

CosmicOwl
03-12-15, 12:27 AM
I thought I would let you all know that he eat tonight. I guess a week of temps in the 80s kicked his hunger into gear. He made short work of a mouse and a chick. Hopefully he eats again next week.

EL Ziggy
03-12-15, 12:42 PM
Congrats Owl! Hopefully he's back on track now.

CosmicOwl
03-12-15, 03:12 PM
Yeah, I hope so. Aside from his little break, he's been an eating machine. I bought some small rats recently, so I offer him one of those next week.

CosmicOwl
03-18-15, 05:32 PM
Good news, he ate again. It took him a while, but I think it may have been of matter of him not having eaten a rat in months, and forgetting the smell.

fainche
03-18-15, 08:56 PM
I'm glad that your snake is eating again.

Derek1
03-18-15, 09:28 PM
Great news!

CosmicOwl
06-03-15, 02:26 PM
I thought I would give you guys an update on the situation. I've been busy lately, so unfortunately, I haven't posted much. Anyway, after I fed him back in march, he went off food again. He stopped eating for about a month and a half and then went into shed. But for the last month, he's eaten regularly. He's had four meals in a row, so I hope he'll continue eating for the rest of the year.