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dave himself
01-17-15, 10:12 AM
These little guys are IMO the most beautiful iguanas out there

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j342/davy64/shop/IMAG1486_1.jpg (http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/davy64/media/shop/IMAG1486_1.jpg.html)

Thanks for looking :)

sharthun
01-17-15, 10:21 AM
Wow I agree Dave! Brilliant greens.

dave himself
01-17-15, 11:06 AM
Wow I agree Dave! Brilliant greens.

Thanks Steve and this is a bad pic lol

Tsubaki
01-17-15, 11:20 AM
Beautiful! :D they have a few for sale in a store not too far from here, love those greens and blue's!

dave himself
01-17-15, 11:28 AM
Beautiful! :D they have a few for sale in a store not too far from here, love those greens and blue's!

Thanks mate when the blue comes out on them they really are stunning

marvelfreak
01-18-15, 12:59 PM
Sweet looking! i am a fan of the Blues myself.

smy_749
01-18-15, 01:06 PM
What is the price tag on these Dave? They are illegal here.

Minkness
01-18-15, 01:30 PM
Wonder why they are illegal

Kuamata
01-18-15, 02:08 PM
Illegal? Is that all states or just yours? 'Cause I really love the Fijis.

Beautiful iggy Dave, I'm super jealous. :)

dave himself
01-18-15, 02:09 PM
What is the price tag on these Dave? They are illegal here.
Around £1100 for the pair as they are very rare here and hard to get


Wonder why they are illegal

I've know idea why they are illegal over in the States, as I said they are rare over here but not illegal

dave himself
01-18-15, 02:11 PM
Illegal? Is that all states or just yours? 'Cause I really love the Fijis.

Beautiful iggy Dave, I'm super jealous. :)

Thanks and someone is going to be very happy with them :)

smy_749
01-18-15, 02:46 PM
Thats not horrible pricing. They are illegal in the entire USA for everyone. I dont think even USA zoos have any but could be wrong. Fiji island claims all ownership of its iggies, and everything in the trade was technically illegally smuggled out, like new zealand species. The US respects this, other countries do not.

Minkness
01-18-15, 03:08 PM
Oh wow, that's interesting o.o

Too bad they don't allow trade of them.

reptiledude987
01-18-15, 03:22 PM
Are they restricted in Canada as well?

dave himself
01-18-15, 03:27 PM
Thats not horrible pricing. They are illegal in the entire USA for everyone. I dont think even USA zoos have any but could be wrong. Fiji island claims all ownership of its iggies, and everything in the trade was technically illegally smuggled out, like new zealand species. The US respects this, other countries do not.

Thank you for the information I had no idea they were banned US or why

smy_749
01-18-15, 03:34 PM
Yea its a shame that everyone else can keep them and we can't. Green iguanas are close enough....not lol

Zoo Nanny
01-18-15, 03:35 PM
Beautiful animal.

dave himself
01-18-15, 04:22 PM
Yea its a shame that everyone else can keep them and we can't. Green iguanas are close enough....not lol

^^^^^^^^ :D :D :D


Beautiful animal.

Thanks :)

marvelfreak
01-18-15, 04:27 PM
I know a just that breeds Blues. They are such cute babies.

Kuamata
01-18-15, 04:32 PM
Oh wow... So that makes another animal that I wanted that is entirely 100% banned. :( I would of loved a Fiji with nice bright blue coloration, and I also wanted a Giant African Land Snail. Just one was all I wanted, nothing that could breed, but because of irresponsible people just throwing them outside and not thinking twice about it, they're now 100% banned in all of America. I really wanted an ivory albino from a breeder. No chance of nemotodes/meningitis.

There was a pic of one Fiji that was just to die for... I'll have to find it, it was posted by one of the reptile breeders I watch, but man his coloration!

dave himself
01-18-15, 05:09 PM
Oh wow... So that makes another animal that I wanted that is entirely 100% banned. :( I would of loved a Fiji with nice bright blue coloration, and I also wanted a Giant African Land Snail. Just one was all I wanted, nothing that could breed, but because of irresponsible people just throwing them outside and not thinking twice about it, they're now 100% banned in all of America. I really wanted an ivory albino from a breeder. No chance of nemotodes/meningitis.

There was a pic of one Fiji that was just to die for... I'll have to find it, it was posted by one of the reptile breeders I watch, but man his coloration!

We are lucky here as most animals are not banned but there is strict licensing laws on venomous which requires home visits and protocols. And if you find the pic of the blue Fijian please post it as I've never saw one. This is only the second pair I've ever saw

Kuamata
01-18-15, 09:24 PM
Thats not horrible pricing. They are illegal in the entire USA for everyone. I dont think even USA zoos have any but could be wrong. Fiji island claims all ownership of its iggies, and everything in the trade was technically illegally smuggled out, like new zealand species. The US respects this, other countries do not.

One thing has been puzzling me... How can Fiji Island claim ownership of an entire species? :/ I realize it was probably named the Fiji iguana because they were found on Fiji island, but how can one claim an entire species? That sounds just as ridiculous as Amazon natives claiming all Amazon parrots, or Africa claiming all gazelle.

Sublimeballs
01-18-15, 10:34 PM
If I'm not mistaken these are endangered, and they're only native to Fiji.

Someone help me on this, as I've never seen babies, but... This is a Fiji crested iguana and not Fiji banded iguana correct.

Sublimeballs
01-18-15, 10:35 PM
Didnt brazil demand the white diamond boa back?

dave himself
01-18-15, 11:24 PM
If I'm not mistaken these are endangered, and they're only native to Fiji.

Someone help me on this, as I've never seen babies, but... This is a Fiji crested iguana and not Fiji banded iguana correct.

These are banded mate

smy_749
01-18-15, 11:28 PM
These aren't regular iguanas like some people here seem to think. They are not even close. They've always been illegal as far as I know and no one is throwing these outside anywhere, nor are they running around in Florida etc. There is also no such thing as a blue Fiji, they have blue banding but thats it. Green iguanas have an axanthic morph which is blue, but again, totally different animal. Fiji doesnt allow these animals out of Fijii, and they only exist in Fiji, so thats how they claim ownership.

smy_749
01-18-15, 11:29 PM
Didnt brazil demand the white diamond boa back?

Wasnt smuggled out of Brazil, but Jeremy Stone faced a law suit and jail time, etc. and they did demand it back.

Kuamata
01-19-15, 12:30 AM
These aren't regular iguanas like some people here seem to think. They are not even close. They've always been illegal as far as I know and no one is throwing these outside anywhere, nor are they running around in Florida etc. There is also no such thing as a blue Fiji, they have blue banding but thats it. Green iguanas have an axanthic morph which is blue, but again, totally different animal. Fiji doesnt allow these animals out of Fijii, and they only exist in Fiji, so thats how they claim ownership.

Oh no, my statement about irresponsible people throwing things outside resulting in a nationwide ban was strictly directed at the African Giant Land Snails. I know that there are other invasive species, that are actually reptiles, that thrive in places like Florida, but I've never known the Fiji to be one, at all, and the reptiles that are on those lists aren't necessarily banned nationwide. Some states permit them. The snail, however, is banned nationwide.

Kuamata
01-19-15, 04:43 AM
I couldn't find the original FB post, but I did find the image of him I'd saved. :) He's sooo stunning!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u119/kuamata/10603659_795604230486018_2603985693907295333_n_zps ed7e0483.jpg

smy_749
01-19-15, 05:32 AM
Sorry Kua, my mistake. Thought you meant the iggies. Thats a nice one for sure.

dave himself
01-19-15, 05:59 AM
I couldn't find the original FB post, but I did find the image of him I'd saved. :) He's sooo stunning!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u119/kuamata/10603659_795604230486018_2603985693907295333_n_zps ed7e0483.jpg

Now that's an iguana