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red boelens
01-14-15, 02:37 AM
Hello, everyone~

The age of my Boeles pythons is almost 4 years old^^

Female + male = ???

CrotalusR#1
01-14-15, 02:43 AM
A snake at the top of my list!!
That is a very cool snake for sure, congrats.

shaunyboy
01-14-15, 05:15 AM
your Boelens are beautiful snakes.....

it's such a shame,that it's very difficult to produce clutches in captivity,(outside of Indonesia)

from what i have read,it's to do with the altitude they live at in the wild,being nearly impossible to replicate in captivity




thank you for sharing your pictures


cheers shaun

eminart
01-14-15, 06:38 AM
You don't see those every day. Very Nice! Maybe the best-looking pythons on earth, in my opinion.

millertime89
01-14-15, 07:55 AM
Gorgeous! Definitely one species I would absolutely love to have some day. Absolutely stunning animals.

from what i have read,it's to do with the altitude they live at in the wild,being nearly impossible to replicate in captivity

That's only a part of equation. A lot of work was done by Pro-Exotics here in Denver and we're between 5000 and 6000 feet up (I'm not sure where their shop was) and I believe that Bushmaster is working with them too and he's about as high up (he's somewhere out here in the metro area too). From my discussions with a few people working with them they basically have no idea what all is involved, seasonal weather changes, UV exposure, elevation, oxygen levels, hell it could be black magic as far as they know right now.

sharthun
01-14-15, 08:37 AM
Wow beautiful!!!

marvelfreak
01-14-15, 11:26 AM
Gorgeous animals.

Aaron_S
01-14-15, 11:33 AM
Gorgeous! Definitely one species I would absolutely love to have some day. Absolutely stunning animals.



That's only a part of equation. A lot of work was done by Pro-Exotics here in Denver and we're between 5000 and 6000 feet up (I'm not sure where their shop was) and I believe that Bushmaster is working with them too and he's about as high up (he's somewhere out here in the metro area too). From my discussions with a few people working with them they basically have no idea what all is involved, seasonal weather changes, UV exposure, elevation, oxygen levels, hell it could be black magic as far as they know right now.

15 years ago nobody had a clue.

Today that clue is still yet to be found.

millertime89
01-14-15, 02:07 PM
15 years ago nobody had a clue.

Today that clue is still yet to be found.

Yup. I'm going with magic myself. Some witch doctor voodoo or something.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mgc.gif

Aaron_S
01-14-15, 02:36 PM
Pretty close to magic.

I will say though there's been more available in the past 6 years than I ever saw before. People also seem to be able to keep them alive for longer than a few months now.

millertime89
01-14-15, 02:52 PM
Pretty close to magic.

I will say though there's been more available in the past 6 years than I ever saw before. People also seem to be able to keep them alive for longer than a few months now.

I'm not sure if that's the farms have it figured out or if there are just more collectors out there. At least it seems like most people have the husbandry for them down.

Aaron_S
01-14-15, 04:04 PM
I'm not sure if that's the farms have it figured out or if there are just more collectors out there. At least it seems like most people have the husbandry for them down.

Yeah. I have seen "CBB" versions but I'm skeptical.

Husbandry is a big step. I still want some :( Too bad they don't fit into my bylaw.

Dilema
01-14-15, 04:13 PM
They are stunning ! Good luck with them ...

millertime89
01-14-15, 04:28 PM
Yeah. I have seen "CBB" versions but I'm skeptical.

Husbandry is a big step. I still want some :( Too bad they don't fit into my bylaw.

That sucks. They're definitely on the short list of animals I want. Right beside albino olives and rough scaled pythons.

marvelfreak
01-14-15, 05:30 PM
boelens (http://www.moreliaboeleni.com/#!artists/c1x9v)

Check this site out.

shaunyboy
01-14-15, 06:30 PM
Gorgeous! Definitely one species I would absolutely love to have some day. Absolutely stunning animals.



That's only a part of equation. A lot of work was done by Pro-Exotics here in Denver and we're between 5000 and 6000 feet up (I'm not sure where their shop was) and I believe that Bushmaster is working with them too and he's about as high up (he's somewhere out here in the metro area too). From my discussions with a few people working with them they basically have no idea what all is involved, seasonal weather changes, UV exposure, elevation, oxygen levels, hell it could be black magic as far as they know right now.

very cool and interesting stuff,thanks for the info mate...

i always hoped someone outside Indonesia living at high altitude would give it a go,to find out if it was an elevation thing


it would be bad for all of us who don't live up mountains though :laugh:

i see some folk have managed to cross male Boelens with Carpet Pythons,can't remember the name they gave the hatchlings

ive heard folk having lock ups that don't amount to anything

please keep me updated if you hear anymore Boelens news mate


cheers shaun

Big_V
01-14-15, 06:55 PM
Check out marc spataro and some of his recommendations. Fredrick in Sweden has got 2 years in a row with clutches and neos. I've been researching for years and may finally take the jump. I found some Cb from indo which means that they found a wild gravid female and let her lay at their farm most likely. Any true cb critters are 10k plus probably and in extreme demand.
Tracking the animals core temp and allowing for the natural temperature drop they get in their native habitat seems vital to doer production in males but also follicle growth in females.

shaunyboy
01-15-15, 08:02 AM
Pretty close to magic.

I will say though there's been more available in the past 6 years than I ever saw before. People also seem to be able to keep them alive for longer than a few months now.

in the UK we can get them in London,straight from an Indonesian facility,for £1895 last time i checked (crystal palace reptiles sell them)

cheers shaun

Aaron_S
01-15-15, 09:09 AM
in the UK we can get them in London,straight from an Indonesian facility,for £1895 last time i checked (crystal palace reptiles sell them)

cheers shaun

Hmmm... I wish I could get some :no:

Theweinz
01-15-15, 12:38 PM
Incredible snakes, just beautiful!

shaunyboy
01-16-15, 09:40 AM
Hmmm... I wish I could get some :no:

contact Darren Biggs the shop owner at.....

Crystal Palace Reptiles (http://www.crystalpalacereptiles.com)

if anyone can get them to you in Canada it will be him Aaron,he owns a breeding facility in Indonesia

i hope you can sort something out mate


cheers shaun

P.S. it was Darren who sent me my lone female Diamond back in 2008 (i bought her from his friend),he only charged £45 to courier it from London to Scotland (which is cheap),he's a good guy to deal with,he even offered to pick up my male Diamonds at a reptile show in Germany (for free),then send them up from London,when he got back home

Big_V
01-16-15, 12:43 PM
Aaron knows where to get them, he was being sarcastic. I think Danny G has an import coming in a few months via Dom in Montreal. I think Aaron doesnt like mites and nasty subcutaneous stuff in his collection, that is why the face. Hahha.

Darren sends his stuff to Don all the time here in BC. They do a few imports each year I believe.

millertime89
01-16-15, 01:32 PM
I think he mentioned something about them not being legal in his area.

red boelens
02-08-15, 06:41 PM
Thank you for all interested~
I know the difficulty of boelens breeding!

Thank you all again^^

trailblazer295
02-08-15, 08:12 PM
Stunning snake, very jealous.

shaunyboy
02-10-15, 05:34 AM
Aaron knows where to get them, he was being sarcastic. I think Danny G has an import coming in a few months via Dom in Montreal. I think Aaron doesnt like mites and nasty subcutaneous stuff in his collection, that is why the face. Hahha.

Darren sends his stuff to Don all the time here in BC. They do a few imports each year I believe.

Aaron sarcastic :shocked:

well i hope that post wasn't sarcasm or he's lost his touch mate :no:


nothing wrong with having a closed collection,but i'm sure Aaron can handle quarantine


so Aaron what's up with you and Boelens mate ?


cheers shaun