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Jrich
01-08-15, 07:35 PM
This video appeared on my local news channel. Watch the video. Tell me what you think. I've already made up my mind about it but I also want insight from everyone on both sides. Here is the YouTube link:

http://youtu.be/q3qc-y24Fd4

Mikoh4792
01-08-15, 07:36 PM
I personally wouldn't do it...just incase anything happened. Toddlers are delicate.

SnoopySnake
01-08-15, 07:40 PM
I agree with Mikoh. That's too large of a snake to have freely climbing around a child so small.

Zoo Nanny
01-08-15, 08:22 PM
I didn't finish watching it or listen to the idiots. The parents should be hauled off to jail for child endangerment and the baby removed from them.

trailblazer295
01-08-15, 08:37 PM
While I'll agree with his goal of making his children not afraid of snakes he could use smaller ones to teach them then that when they are small and as they grow the snakes they deal with can. But a snake that large and that powerful who could easily hurt a child that small and fragile isn't a good idea. Even without trying to intentionally the snake possess a strength so far beyond what would be needed to kill the kid. A snake a fraction that size could kill an adult if placed in the right position. Obviously the child is growing and hasn't been harmed but personally that is a risk that isn't worth it.

BIGT FROM F.B.
01-08-15, 08:40 PM
Absolutely not!!! Those parents should be arrested for endangerment of a child. All snakes can be unpredictable at any time, even if they are tame.

dave himself
01-08-15, 09:12 PM
Not the smartest thing I've ever seen, it only takes a second for things to go horribly wrong :(

Jim Smith
01-08-15, 09:28 PM
Like others, I didn't bother watching the entire video. While I believe the man's intensions are good, I also think he is a fool to do what he did and to think any snake is a "loving" pet. In a split second, that snake could have latched onto that babies face and left it scared for life or if it coiled and constricted, seriously injured or dead. Instead of sending the message that people don't need to fear snakes, he sent the message that people who keep snakes are irresponsible.

FWK
01-08-15, 10:22 PM
I agree with y'all, this is far to risky. He could hold the animal and let the child pet it or use a much smaller snake, an animal that large is just to strong and heavy to allow a child to play with freely. He means well but his trust is clearly misplaced. I think calling for child endangerment charges may be a bit drastic though. I watched the whole video as well as a few more from his channel because I believe in gathering as much information as possible before passing judgment. He works for BHB Reptiles and has a large personal collection. He and his oldest daughter have dozens of videos on his channel working with a variety of animals both captive and in the field. The videos are well shot and edited with lots of good information. He has a lot of enthusiasm for his cause and frankly we could use more people like him in the hobby giving snakes positive exposure. But like I said I do agree this particular video is just to dangerous and in very bad taste.

pdomensis
01-09-15, 08:43 AM
Snakes cannot be "a loving pet" so his whole premise is false. Of course most times nothing bad will happen, but there are two definite possibilities when children are around snakes-the child could get hurt or the snake could get hurt.

I like the idea of helping people understand that snakes aren't evil, mean etc. But I also think it's very important to make sure people are responsible around snakes or any other potentially dangerous object. They are not stuffed toys.

SoPhilly
01-09-15, 12:47 PM
"loving" pet - facepalm. Ok, when my son was a baby/toddler, I wouldn't let him just roll on the floor grabbing at even my dog or cats, because guess what? Toddlers really have no concept of "don't grab the dogs tail and yank on it" or "the kitty doesn't like his stomach tickled". If the snake is well fed, it's not gonna randomly try to eat the baby, but ANY animal will potentially strike at a toddler who accidentally pokes it in the eye. If that python were to strike and coil at that kid out of fear/injury, I don't care how close by you are, damage is gonna be done. And babies smack animals sometimes, just out of curiosity.

I'm 100% for raising kids to not fear snakes, and I'm doing that by letting my son, starting when he was 6, hold and pet my 2 foot CRB. Because even if he scares her and she tags him, her bite is a pinprick.

reptiledude987
01-09-15, 12:58 PM
I get the point behind the video but not a good idea at all. I expose my kids to my animals around toddler age but things like baby ball pythons. I wont even take my 9 foot jcp out if my daughters in the room. Sheila (the jcp) is a big sweatheart and has never shown a sign of aggression in or out of tank. Despite that I would never take the chance because I wouldnt be able to live with myself if my daughter got bit.... or worse.

Rattlehead
01-09-15, 01:02 PM
Not smart at all. Worse thing is that this was broadcasted and may encourage other people to do it :/

millertime89
01-09-15, 01:54 PM
Do I want to watch this? No, I probably don't...

SSSSnakes
01-09-15, 02:20 PM
Poor judgement. Snake and children, only in a controlled environment were the children are in no danger. I will have to say that people will react negatively because it is a snake and not a dog or cat. I have seen many videos of children in dangerous scenarios with dogs and cats, and the public thinks it cute.

SnoopySnake
01-09-15, 02:24 PM
Poor judgement. Snake and children, only in a controlled environment were the children are in no danger. I will have to say that people will react negatively because it is a snake and not a dog or cat. I have seen many videos of children in dangerous scenarios with dogs and cats, and the public thinks it cute.

I'm not against snakes with kids, just think a snake that large with a kid that small is a bad mix.. Had it been a smaller snake I'd have no issue with it. I also don't agree with leaving small children with dogs and cats.

Sublimeballs
01-09-15, 02:44 PM
Watched 5 seconds of it and.... I keep some big snakes and I'll have my first child this year. I would NEVER allow this. Chances are it'll be fine, but there's that possibility that something goes wrong and you could lose your CHILD. Why risk it? Small snakes, yes! All for it. Not giants!

Cmwells90
01-09-15, 03:17 PM
I can't watch the video because I'm at work, but I'm pretty sure I saw this in the news about a week ago. A father letting his 18 month old daughter around his retic (at least that's what it looked like to me).

I was against this from the get go, it's quite wreckless to allow a large animal around your child, ecspecially at that young of an age! From the pictures I saw the snake could have eaten the child if it needed to, not to mention it could probably kill the baby before the parents could stop it, and how would they have felt if that would have happened? It would have been a terrible loss for that family and a tragic event that may lead to more restrictions on larger snakes, because you know the media would have twisted it sideways.

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!!

CosmicOwl
01-09-15, 03:28 PM
That snake could have the baby constricted before anybody knew what was happening. Cool luck getting it off before serious damage is done.

Aaron_S
01-09-15, 03:44 PM
These are the people need we need the media and public to know are NOT apart of our community. They are outliers who's actions are not those of the community nor condoned by it.

Sublimeballs
01-09-15, 06:44 PM
These are the people need we need the media and public to know are NOT apart of our community. They are outliers who's actions are not those of the community nor condoned by it.

I agree 100%

marvelfreak
01-09-15, 11:33 PM
There is no way in hell that snake is 13 feet. It's 8 feet tops.

shaunyboy
01-10-15, 02:19 PM
i think the parents are fecking idiots who cause nothing but trouble for our hobby,and should not be allowed to keep their kids,after endangering their child like that...

i would slap them if i got the chance,things like that make my blood boil...

why endanger a child like that ?



cheers shaun

Jrich
01-10-15, 04:27 PM
I agree with every single one of you all.

Little Wise Owl
01-10-15, 08:29 PM
Irresponsible as all hell. Ugh. I saw this on my newsfeed on FB and just sighed. I know the message they were trying to get across was that snakes aren't just evil killing machines but this was NOT the way to do it. So many dangerous outcomes could have happened.

I wish people used their brains.

Marshallarts
01-14-15, 10:10 PM
I think it's not a good idea because babies can get sick much more easily and they tend to slobber on everything. I think maybe for a young child this would be fairly safe and beneficial. Although, I would go with a smaller snake like a ball python if I was putting it on google.

Aaron_S
01-15-15, 09:12 AM
I agree with every single one of you all.

I agree with every single one of you. <- - - - See what I did there?

Jrich
01-15-15, 11:34 AM
I agree with every single one of you. <- - - - See what I did there?

Cultural insight: where I live we say ya'll but instead typed you all. Same thing. You can even find it in the Merriam Webster dictionary. Bless your heart.

Aaron_S
01-15-15, 11:46 AM
Cultural insight: where I live we say ya'll but instead typed you all. Same thing. You can even find it in the Merriam Webster dictionary. Bless your heart.

Grammar insight: It isn't needed at the end of a sentence when you've already addressed everyone. Bless your heart.

Jrich
01-15-15, 12:15 PM
I guess at this forum you can learn about more than just reptiles. Kind of like how there's always someone looking to start an argument that has nothing to do with the thread. I really enjoy this forum but I have seen some snarky people on here.

CosmicOwl
01-15-15, 12:36 PM
I guess at this forum you can learn about more than just reptiles. Kind of like how there's always someone looking to start an argument that has nothing to do with the thread. I really enjoy this forum but I have seen some snarky people on here.

Hey, it takes two to tango. Aaron might have been a bit snarky by correcting you, but you returned fire.

FWK
01-15-15, 01:12 PM
lol @ grammar police.

Aaron_S
01-15-15, 02:04 PM
I guess at this forum you can learn about more than just reptiles. Kind of like how there's always someone looking to start an argument that has nothing to do with the thread. I really enjoy this forum but I have seen some snarky people on here.

I was just having fun the first time.

Second time was to return the snark with more snark.

Everyone laugh at the grammar police. I welcome it :D I'm glad I'm entertaining to others and not just myself.

reptiledude987
01-15-15, 02:11 PM
I was just having fun the first time.

Second time was to return the snark with more snark.

Everyone laugh at the grammar police. I welcome it :D I'm glad I'm entertaining to others and not just myself.
I got a good chuckle out of this.

millertime89
01-15-15, 03:57 PM
I was just having fun the first time.

Second time was to return the snark with more snark.

Everyone laugh at the grammar police. I welcome it :D I'm glad I'm entertaining to others and not just myself.

I'm quite pleased to see that I'm not the only grammar officer here.

Jrich
01-15-15, 03:59 PM
I was just having fun the first time.

Second time was to return the snark with more snark.

Everyone laugh at the grammar police. I welcome it :D I'm glad I'm entertaining to others and not just myself.

Sorry for the snark then. Maybe I shouldn't respond to things before lunch time because I get "hangry".