Post photos of your snake bites!

[Emmamuradian]

Lets see some of the damage they've done

This is when my BP bit my eye

[Emmamuradian]

and this is my second bite! She's a cutie. Never thought she would bite me though!

[SSSSnakes]

These kind of threads show the lack of experience of the keepers and not something we should promote. Bites happen, but it is the mistake of the handler and not something to be proud of. IMO

[themeyers]

These kind of threads show the lack of experience of the keepers and not something we should promote. Bites happen, but it is the mistake of the handler and not something to be proud of. IMO

I second that thought. now if someone was trying to educate on what happens when you get bit by lets say a huge retic or a venomous to help keep people who have no business in the hobby out then go for it. but just for the sake of battle scars, I don't see any merit in it.

[SnoopySnake]

These kind of threads show the lack of experience of the keepers and not something we should promote. Bites happen, but it is the mistake of the handler and not something to be proud of. IMO

Was just thinking the exact same thing...

[AndrewM1217]

I don't think this is really "promoting" getting bit, nor is it promoting improper handling. And why does it have to be a venomous or a retic to have the benefit of "keeping those who have no business" out of it? Maybe somebody who wants a smaller snake like a ball python would think twice after seeing that even smaller snakes can cause some harm. I've only recently acquired my first snake, so I have nothing to contribute here. But to me it seems like this is an experience most of you can relate to, so why not just have some fun with it? I'm not trying to sound rude or contradictory to the posters above me, just stating my opinion.

Back on topic...how did you manage to get bit on your eye!?

[themeyers]

I don't think this is really "promoting" getting bit, nor is it promoting improper handling. And why does it have to be a venomous or a retic to have the benefit of "keeping those who have no business" out of it? Maybe somebody who wants a smaller snake like a ball python would think twice after seeing that even smaller snakes can cause some harm. I've only recently acquired my first snake, so I have nothing to contribute here. But to me it seems like this is an experience most of you can relate to, so why not just have some fun with it? I'm not trying to sound rude or contradictory to the posters above me, just stating my opinion.

Back on topic...how did you manage to get bit on your eye!?


not that I am even that against sharing such things but with all the negative light our hobby gets from main stream media. we need to do the responsible thing to keep it alive. lets not forget that almost every year they are trying to ban something. and eventually it will be stuff just like this that is seen by the law makers and it WILL influence their view point. I personally don't want to be the reason that future generations wont get the chance to have such amazing animals in their lives. lets remember that every thing we do can have an impact on everyone in the hobby. that all it takes is one person to getting bit to make a major outcry. and lets not forget that even if it isn't the snakes fault (which it never is) it will be the snake that is paying the ultimate price when the ban happens. please lets try to be a bit more responsible. now if this was posted as look what happened to me, or I am so surprised, or I made a mistake. it would be taken differently. and may even be supported by those of us who shun this post. its not even so much about posting pics of getting bit. its the fact that the posters seam to be proud of it. it is NOT something to be proud of. the only reason any one ever gets bit by their snake is their fault. trust me it has happened to me. and it will most likely happen again. (I am human after all). but lets stay above the childish thing of comparing battle scars. we are all learning day in and day out. I don't mean to offend anyone, only to help to keep us going strong in our passions. I hope that I don't deter anyone from posting here. I love seeing all of your animals, updates, enclosures, trials, errors, and all that you all have accomplished over the years.

[SSSSnakes]

First set of picture shows an inexperienced keeper allowing a snake near their face. A snake that small you had to hold the snake by your face to get bit.

Second set of pics is a hungry snake striking for food. If it was not a hunger bite, the snake would not have hung on after the bite and wrapped.

No disrespect intended, but both are beginner mistakes and not something to be proud of. As mentioned if this were a thread about what not to do, it would be appropriate. Keep snakes wekk fed and never put a snake near your face, (snakes have a natural instinct to strike at the face).

[Cmwells90]

First set of picture shows an inexperienced keeper allowing a snake near their face. A snake that small you had to hold the snake by your face to get bit.

Second set of pics is a hungry snake striking for food. If it was not a hunger bite, the snake would not have hung on after the bite and wrapped.

No disrespect intended, but both are beginner mistakes and not something to be proud of. As mentioned if this were a thread about what not to do, it would be appropriate. Keep snakes wekk fed and never put a snake near your face, (snakes have a natural instinct to strike at the face).


This is exactly what I thought when I saw the first and second picture. They're beginer mistakes and they happen, but posting a thread and making it sound like a good thing is not the right idea.

Emmamuradian, the reason we're condemning these is because this is only something that would happen to a newbie, which is fine, but shouldn't be sported as "normal" behavior. Balls are remarkably calm, so the fact that she latched on to you tells me she's very hungry, maybe offer larger food sizes? If you don't know, they should be roughly 1 1/2 the size of the thickest part of the snake, done every 5-7/7-10 days depending on age. If you do know, then it shouldn't have happened in the fist place because that snake has no reason to hold on to you like that because you aren't food, but it's her only way of telling you.

[SSSSnakes]

that snake has no reason to hold on to you like that because you aren't food, but it's her only way of telling you.

I wonder if I bite and hold on to my wife, if she'll get the hint I want more food. LOL

[Derek1]

I've never been bit by a captive. Only once by a Diamond Back Watersnake.

[Cmwells90]

I wonder if I bite and hold on to my wife, if she'll get the hint I want more food. LOL

I imagine you'd get hit, not fed, but please try and tell me how it turns out!

[LiL Zap]

I don't think the OP had any harm in mind when making this thread. How about turning this into a positive thing? For example, if someone posts a picture, explain what happened exactly that led to the bite and explain what lesson was learned. Maybe beginners will read the thread and learn from the mistakes of others? Idk, just trying to turn the thread around. :)

[NewHerp293]

Im a fan of this idea^ never been bit though so nothing really to add

[marvelfreak]

Sometimes the you have to learn the hard way. Check out this old thread and page 7 & 8. Never let your guard down. http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-discussion/85483-bite-club-thread.html

Thing about this for a snake to bite it has to be scared or stressed or hungry. Which means your doing something wrong. Figure out what that is and fix the problem. I use to brag about getting bit but now i brag about how long it's been seen i got bit last. For the record over a year.

[guyabano]

That eye bite looks gnar. I had a foreign particle in my left eye two weeks ago and it's twitching just looking at your pic.

[Emmamuradian]

First set of picture shows an inexperienced keeper allowing a snake near their face. A snake that small you had to hold the snake by your face to get bit.

Second set of pics is a hungry snake striking for food. If it was not a hunger bite, the snake would not have hung on after the bite and wrapped.

No disrespect intended, but both are beginner mistakes and not something to be proud of. As mentioned if this were a thread about what not to do, it would be appropriate. Keep snakes wekk fed and never put a snake near your face, (snakes have a natural instinct to strike at the face).


Woah! okay I had no intention of turning this into a negative post...

first of of all, my first picture has nothing to do with being inexperienced...I understand you don't mean any disrespect but you did not have to be rude and bash on me just because you were assuming my "mistakes" are "beginner mistakes". My snake was around my neck while i was changing her water, she came near my eye so I closed my eye..then i'm assuming my eyelashes confused her and/or made her sort of twitch and she just bit me eye. And no she was not hungry during that time..

for my second bite, I do not starve my snakes. I feed them every 5-7 days. She was in shed during the time i was supposed to feed her, I personally don't like feeding my snakes during shed so yes you can say she was probably hungry that day. That photo was taken 5 minuted before i fed her.

I appreciate your concern, but you shouldn't go around assuming things. You can always ask the person.
Everyone knows snakes bite, me posting a photo of my snake biting me isn't going to shock the world and make everyone find out that snakes bite. lol.

For some reason I like to see snake bites, I think they're cute when they bite. Big deal. I figured i wasn't the only person but apparently I am lol.

[Emmamuradian]

I don't think this is really "promoting" getting bit, nor is it promoting improper handling. And why does it have to be a venomous or a retic to have the benefit of "keeping those who have no business" out of it? Maybe somebody who wants a smaller snake like a ball python would think twice after seeing that even smaller snakes can cause some harm. I've only recently acquired my first snake, so I have nothing to contribute here. But to me it seems like this is an experience most of you can relate to, so why not just have some fun with it? I'm not trying to sound rude or contradictory to the posters above me, just stating my opinion.

Back on topic...how did you manage to get bit on your eye!?

Thanks lol, I know it was meant to be fun but all of a sudden it turned around haha.
any was I posted it on the comment above but here you go

my snake was around my neck while i was changing her water, she came near my eye so I closed my eye..then i'm assuming my eyelashes confused her and/or made her sort of twitch and she just bit me eye. And no she was not hungry during that time..lol didn't hurt at all tough I just got shocked

[Emmamuradian]

I don't think the OP had any harm in mind when making this thread. How about turning this into a positive thing? For example, if someone posts a picture, explain what happened exactly that led to the bite and explain what lesson was learned. Maybe beginners will read the thread and learn from the mistakes of others? Idk, just trying to turn the thread around. :)

Thanks! that would be nice haha just trying to have fun

[Emmamuradian]

Sometimes the you have to learn the hard way. Check out this old thread and page 7 & 8. Never let your guard down. http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-discussion/85483-bite-club-thread.html

Thing about this for a snake to bite it has to be scared or stressed or hungry. Which means your doing something wrong. Figure out what that is and fix the problem. I use to brag about getting bit but now i brag about how long it's been seen i got bit last. For the record over a year.


I wasn't doing anything wring, I posted above exactly what happened haha. Im not trying to brag I just like seeing snake bites.. is that weird?? :o

[Emmamuradian]

That eye bite looks gnar. I had a foreign particle in my left eye two weeks ago and it's twitching just looking at your pic.

hahah really wasnt as bad as it looks, just bled alot. It was my first time getting bit by my ball python, I was like really? this is how you introduce me to your teeth?! haha:D

[Emmamuradian]

not that I am even that against sharing such things but with all the negative light our hobby gets from main stream media. we need to do the responsible thing to keep it alive. lets not forget that almost every year they are trying to ban something. and eventually it will be stuff just like this that is seen by the law makers and it WILL influence their view point. I personally don't want to be the reason that future generations wont get the chance to have such amazing animals in their lives. lets remember that every thing we do can have an impact on everyone in the hobby. that all it takes is one person to getting bit to make a major outcry. and lets not forget that even if it isn't the snakes fault (which it never is) it will be the snake that is paying the ultimate price when the ban happens. please lets try to be a bit more responsible. now if this was posted as look what happened to me, or I am so surprised, or I made a mistake. it would be taken differently. and may even be supported by those of us who shun this post. its not even so much about posting pics of getting bit. its the fact that the posters seam to be proud of it. it is NOT something to be proud of. the only reason any one ever gets bit by their snake is their fault. trust me it has happened to me. and it will most likely happen again. (I am human after all). but lets stay above the childish thing of comparing battle scars. we are all learning day in and day out. I don't mean to offend anyone, only to help to keep us going strong in our passions. I hope that I don't deter anyone from posting here. I love seeing all of your animals, updates, enclosures, trials, errors, and all that you all have accomplished over the years.


this isn't bragging, or comparing, I just thought some people enjoy seeing it like me... Im new to this forum and had no idea anyone here would take this so seriously..just trying to have fun but I guess its all serious around here

[SSSSnakes]

woah! Okay i had no intention of turning this into a negative post...

First of of all, my first picture has nothing to do with being inexperienced...i understand you don't mean any disrespect but you did not have to be rude and bash on me just because you were assuming my "mistakes" are "beginner mistakes". My snake was around my neck

having a snake around your neck, is a beginners mistake.

for my second bite, i do not starve my snakes. I feed them every 5-7 days. She was in shed during the time i was supposed to feed her, i personally don't like feeding my snakes during shed so yes you can say she was probably hungry that day. That photo was taken 5 minuted before i fed her.

I appreciate your concern, but you shouldn't go around assuming things. You can always ask the person.
Lol.

i never said you starve your snake. I said that was a hunger bite. You knowing the snake was hungry and still held it, was again a beginner mistake.

[SSSSnakes]

this isn't bragging, or comparing, I just thought some people enjoy seeing it like me... Im new to this forum and had no idea anyone here would take this so seriously..just trying to have fun but I guess its all serious around here

We like to have fun as well. But how do you think it would look to a parent checking out the forum, trying to determine if they want their child to get a snake. I think that kind of picture would deter them from allowing their child from keeping snakes. No one was posting comments to be rude, only to keep snake keeping on a positive outlook to the public and not a negative.

[themeyers]

We like to have fun as well. But how do you think it would look to a parent checking out the forum, trying to determine if they want their child to get a snake. I think that kind of picture would deter them from allowing their child from keeping snakes. No one was posting comments to be rude, only to keep snake keeping on a positive outlook to the public and not a negative.

What he said. no harm intended just trying to keep people from being barred from our hobby. and keep the general public from thinking we are a bunch of masochists.

[pdomensis]

We like to have fun as well. But how do you think it would look to a parent checking out the forum, trying to determine if they want their child to get a snake. I think that kind of picture would deter them from allowing their child from keeping snakes. No one was posting comments to be rude, only to keep snake keeping on a positive outlook to the public and not a negative.

Personally I'd rather parents see pics of what can happen when owning a snake. It's much better to deter a parent than have yet another unwanted snake on craigslist, or worse, released into the wild.

[SSSSnakes]

Personally I'd rather parents see pics of what can happen when owning a snake. It's much better to deter a parent than have yet another unwanted snake on craigslist, or worse, released into the wild.

Better to teach appropriate snake handling and prevent these bites from happening. I wonder how the OP would have felt if the snake would have blinded the eye permanently. If she would never had been able to see out of that eye again. Would that have been a cool picture? Do we teach our children to play football, by showing them pictures of paralyzed players that got hurt play football, or do we teach the the positive aspects of the game.

[pdomensis]

Do we teach our children to play football, by showing them pictures of paralyzed players that got hurt play football, or do we teach the the positive aspects of the game.

Both actually.

[SSSSnakes]

Both actually.

I've never seen a recruiting poster for anything showing the negatives . In the hobby snake bites are the mistakes of the handlers and should not be displayed proudly as being cool. Give the law makers more reasons to limit what we can keep.

[pdomensis]

I see your points, but I don't see myself as a recruiter to the hobby. My goal is to be informative and let people make wise decisions. Football is a good analogy. I'll bet there are football blogs or forums with threads of awesome hits. I'll also bet there are those who think that hits shouldn't get highlighted because it provides ammo for people trying to add more safety restrictions. I think it's unrealistic to think that injuries won't happen in football, just like it's unrealistic to say a new snake owner will never get bit.

cheers

[Emmamuradian]

i never said you starve your snake. I said that was a hunger bite. You knowing the snake was hungry and still held it, was again a beginner mistake.

once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.

[Emmamuradian]

We like to have fun as well. But how do you think it would look to a parent checking out the forum, trying to determine if they want their child to get a snake. I think that kind of picture would deter them from allowing their child from keeping snakes. No one was posting comments to be rude, only to keep snake keeping on a positive outlook to the public and not a negative.

People aren't stupid, they know snakes bite. I wouldn't be the reason for that. All she has to do it Google snake bites and she will see a 100's of photos 10X worse than mine. And if that "mother" doesn't want to look at snake bites, then she shouldn't have clicked on the threat that was titles post photos of snake bites.

[Emmamuradian]

Personally I'd rather parents see pics of what can happen when owning a snake. It's much better to deter a parent than have yet another unwanted snake on craigslist, or worse, released into the wild.

Exactly! You know how many people asked me if I was going to release my snake to the wild, or kill her because she bit me!!!! What? Why? Imagine all the parents that would do that. So many people think ball pythons don't ever bite. Sh** happens, and They do! My pictures are proof.

[Emmamuradian]

i see your points, but i don't see myself as a recruiter to the hobby. My goal is to be informative and let people make wise decisions. Football is a good analogy. I'll bet there are football blogs or forums with threads of awesome hits. I'll also bet there are those who think that hits shouldn't get highlighted because it provides ammo for people trying to add more safety restrictions. I think it's unrealistic to think that injuries won't happen in football, just like it's unrealistic to say a new snake owner will never get bit.

Cheers

thank you!

[Emmamuradian]

Better to teach appropriate snake handling and prevent these bites from happening. I wonder how the OP would have felt if the snake would have blinded the eye permanently. If she would never had been able to see out of that eye again. Would that have been a cool picture? Do we teach our children to play football, by showing them pictures of paralyzed players that got hurt play football, or do we teach the the positive aspects of the game.

If I was blinded I wouldn't have time for a "cool" photo. There you go assuming again. lol. Just because I wasn't hurt and wanted a memory of the aftermath doesn't mean I'm trying to be cool. You're taking this way to seriously. Just chill. A couple photos wasn't going to change everyone minds about owning a snake. Actually, before I got a snake I would YouTube snakes biting their owners just to see their reactions and how bad it was. To see if I could handle it. After I watched that one guy with the ball python latched on his hand forever..my little mbk was like a breeze. The photo of my eye actually showed a lot of people I know that its not that big of a deal to get bit by a snake. It also showed them not to hold it near the face..even though she was just around my neck. It happens. When she rest her head on my eye..my hands were busy, there was nothing I could do. once again.

[IW17]

once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.

99% of experienced snake owners will tell you feeding outside of the enclosure is a beginner mistake. It teaches snakes to expect food when brought out. No one is jumping all over you. Just trying to explain how certain things can have a negative impact on our hobby. Snake bites happen. Even the most experienced snakeowners get bit. Which is why holding one in striking range of your face is a mistake.

[bigsnakegirl785]

once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.

Feeding inside the enclosure will do absolutely nothing to keep you from being bit, even from a feeding response bite. I feed all my snakes in their enclosures and I've been bitten enough times to count on one hand in the 8 years I've been keeping snakes. Excluding when I was feeding my boa constrictor outside the enclosure, when I got bit quite often. You do a lot of other stuff than open the enclosure doors to feed them (change water, pick up refuse, handle them, etc.), why would they only associate the doors opening with food?

Mistakes do happen, we're only human. But putting a snake in the middle of shed around your neck is a beginner mistake. I don't do that even with my ball python. If I handle them while they're in shed, it's to work their bedding, and they're either put into a bucket, or set on the ground or bed where I can watch them.

It's not about whether or not snakes bite, but how it's being portrayed. Saying snakes bite and you should take the proper precautions is quite different than "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" It just doesn't paint us in a very good light, as has been stated several times.

[LiL Zap]

once again... its not a beginner mistake. I dont feed my snakes in their cage.
Are they supposed to fly to their food? I take them there, which means I HAVE to hold them.
Unfortunately that is a beginner mistake right there. Feeding snakes inside their enclosure doesn't make them aggressive or "bitey."

[Emmamuradian]

99% of experienced snake owners will tell you feeding outside of the enclosure is a beginner mistake. It teaches snakes to expect food when brought out. No one is jumping all over you. Just trying to explain how certain things can have a negative impact on our hobby. Snake bites happen. Even the most experienced snakeowners get bit. Which is why holding one in striking range of your face is a mistake.

Its not a mistake. It how I choose to feed them. I've been doing it since day one and i am used to it. Thats nobodys business but mine.. lol theres not mistake there. and I repeat once again she was on my neck I was't holding her in my face..Its also my choice to put my snake around my neck its not illegal and its not a mistake...if you think about it that way just holding a snake is a risk then. So I dont get why everyones trying to teach me a lesson lol

[Emmamuradian]

Feeding inside the enclosure will do absolutely nothing to keep you from being bit, even from a feeding response bite. I feed all my snakes in their enclosures and I've been bitten enough times to count on one hand in the 8 years I've been keeping snakes. Excluding when I was feeding my boa constrictor outside the enclosure, when I got bit quite often. You do a lot of other stuff than open the enclosure doors to feed them (change water, pick up refuse, handle them, etc.), why would they only associate the doors opening with food?

Mistakes do happen, we're only human. But putting a snake in the middle of shed around your neck is a beginner mistake. I don't do that even with my ball python. If I handle them while they're in shed, it's to work their bedding, and they're either put into a bucket, or set on the ground or bed where I can watch them.

It's not about whether or not snakes bite, but how it's being portrayed. Saying snakes bite and you should take the proper precautions is quite different than "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" It just doesn't paint us in a very good light, as has been stated several times.

I don't feed them out of the cage just so they don't bite me any other time I reach in. Its become a habit and i'm happy with the way I feed them..I don't have to feed them in their cages...
ok, I don't know why people aren't reading my scenarios correctly, my snake wasn't in shed when she was around my neck, I was just changing her water.
My SECOND photo she got out of shed so i was about to feed her. I never handle them when they are in shed...I didn't post these photos to get a lesson on taking care of my snakes. If I need advice I ask for it.
and for that comment "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" thats also a little harsh. read carefully and understand that i'm not trying to be cool here lol. Its just a photo. Damn.
I'm not trying to be rude but its a little disrespectful to me because I'm not doing anything wrong and everyone is assuming I am.

[Emmamuradian]

Unfortunately that is a beginner mistake right there. Feeding snakes inside their enclosure doesn't make them aggressive or "bitey."

read my previous post please

[MDT]

hey emma...you've heard the saying "there's an easy way and there's a hard way", right? i think that's all we are saying. you feed in another enclosure (and a lot of people do), it's just another unnecessary step. end result is the same = fed snake. just extra steps. sometimes included in those extra steps are more opportunities for contact with teeth. maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. if you're ok with those odds, then enjoy the extra effort.

similarly, i think at some point we have all draped a snake around our necks. 99.99999% nothing will happen. but (as you found out) there is a potential for something bad (and it could've been catastrophic if your snake actually bit your eye). i know that the likelihood is prob low, but personally, i don't wanna lose an eye. i don't want sutures on the face. so, i direct my snake's head away from my head when they are out of their enclosure. i don't multi-task with a roaming snake head close to my face.

sometimes the way we do things may not be wrong per se, but often our husbandry/habits/etc, could be fine tuned. i've received tons of info from members here that has positively impacted how i care for and handle my animals and i've kept snakes for well over 30 yrs. don't view it as an attack, simply look at it as "there may be an easier way"...

[Mikoh4792]

hey emma...you've heard the saying "there's an easy way and there's a hard way", right? i think that's all we are saying. you feed in another enclosure (and a lot of people do), it's just another unnecessary step. end result is the same = fed snake. just extra steps. sometimes included in those extra steps are more opportunities for contact with teeth. maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. if you're ok with those odds, then enjoy the extra effort.

similarly, i think at some point we have all draped a snake around our necks. 99.99999% nothing will happen. but (as you found out) there is a potential for something bad (and it could've been catastrophic if your snake actually bit your eye). i know that the likelihood is prob low, but personally, i don't wanna lose an eye. i don't want sutures on the face. so, i direct my snake's head away from my head when they are out of their enclosure. i don't multi-task with a roaming snake head close to my face.

sometimes the way we do things may not be wrong per se, but often our husbandry/habits/etc, could be fine tuned. i've received tons of info from members here that has positively impacted how i care for and handle my animals and i've kept snakes for well over 30 yrs. don't view it as an attack, simply look at it as "there may be an easier way"...

+1 and not just easier, but more efficient.

[Mikoh4792]

It how I choose to feed them. I've been doing it since day one and i am used to it. Thats nobodys business but mine..

When it comes to husbandry, it's okay for more experienced people to criticize your practices. It's not just you involved, but also your animals.

Besides, no one is telling you not to feed in a separate enclosure, so don't take it as people telling you what to do. They are just explaining how there is no point in feeding outside the enclosure. "That's bad" and "don't do it" are two different things.

[SSSSnakes]

A bite to the face with a snake around your neck, means you don't understand snakes. Snakes naturally strike at the face, because they have a natural instinct to stop the prey from fighting back. If the prey is grabbed by the face it prevents the prey from biting the snake. If you have a defensive snake like a tree snake it will zero in on your face and wait for the right time to strike at you. A spitting cobra will not spit venom at your body, it waits until it has a shot at your face.

People our offering advise, you can learn from them or you can let yourself be bit again. When we were young we all thought we knew it all, until we gained experience and found out how little we really knew.

[Emmamuradian]

hey emma...you've heard the saying "there's an easy way and there's a hard way", right? i think that's all we are saying. you feed in another enclosure (and a lot of people do), it's just another unnecessary step. end result is the same = fed snake. just extra steps. sometimes included in those extra steps are more opportunities for contact with teeth. maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. if you're ok with those odds, then enjoy the extra effort.

similarly, i think at some point we have all draped a snake around our necks. 99.99999% nothing will happen. but (as you found out) there is a potential for something bad (and it could've been catastrophic if your snake actually bit your eye). i know that the likelihood is prob low, but personally, i don't wanna lose an eye. i don't want sutures on the face. so, i direct my snake's head away from my head when they are out of their enclosure. i don't multi-task with a roaming snake head close to my face.

sometimes the way we do things may not be wrong per se, but often our husbandry/habits/etc, could be fine tuned. i've received tons of info from members here that has positively impacted how i care for and handle my animals and i've kept snakes for well over 30 yrs. don't view it as an attack, simply look at it as "there may be an easier way"...



I totally get that and thank you for the concern, my point in all of this is that I didn't post these photos to get lessons, to get taught how to take care or handle or not get bit by my snakes..I posted these photos for fun its just a photo...Im ok with being bitten by my snakes..if anything..I like the feeling.
But, they way I care for my snakes...Im happy with it. I didnt need lectures haha just wanted to post a photo..If I need help I ask for it ..If you guys want to help me so bad go check out my other post where I found a lump on my snake and wasnt sure what it was..I dont know if the way I write sounds rude but im not trying to be rude..I really appreciate the effort its just not what I posted these pics for :)

[Emmamuradian]

When it comes to husbandry, it's okay for more experienced people to criticize your practices. It's not just you involved, but also your animals.

Besides, no one is telling you not to feed in a separate enclosure, so don't take it as people telling you what to do. They are just explaining how there is no point in feeding outside the enclosure. "That's bad" and "don't do it" are two different things.

I just posted the reason im getting so defensive please read that..
its just a photo everyone.

[Emmamuradian]

A bite to the face with a snake around your neck, means you don't understand snakes. Snakes naturally strike at the face, because they have a natural instinct to stop the prey from fighting back. If the prey is grabbed by the face it prevents the prey from biting the snake. If you have a defensive snake like a tree snake it will zero in on your face and wait for the right time to strike at you. A spitting cobra will not spit venom at your body, it waits until it has a shot at your face.

People our offering advise, you can learn from them or you can let yourself be bit again. When we were young we all thought we knew it all, until we gained experience and found out how little we really knew.

Okay well clearly your just trying to act like you know everything about snakes and good for you..but I DONT need that advice..do not tell me I dont understand snakes you have no reason to say that too me. Out of everyone on this thread you are the only one desperately trying to be the better one and trying to lower me. Well congratulations good for you. People are offering me advice I dont need. And I didnt ask for..I just wanted to post a photo I do NOT mind getting bit by my snakes!!!!
If I want to keep my snake around my neck then I can. Its a risk of getting bit but thats my personal problem im not harming my snake...
I would appreciate it if you stop finding another BS reason to "give me advice" If you dont want to see the photos or other peoples. then goodbye

[Emmamuradian]

PSA: IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH MY PHOTOS, LEAVE THE THREAD..DO NOT TRY TO JUDGE PEOPLES HUSBANDRY. Just let it go, and accept it. I am a very open person..when I need help I ask, and in the future I guarantee you will see my posting for advice or help.

[SSSSnakes]

This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.

[bigsnakegirl785]

I don't feed them out of the cage just so they don't bite me any other time I reach in. Its become a habit and i'm happy with the way I feed them..I don't have to feed them in their cages...
ok, I don't know why people aren't reading my scenarios correctly, my snake wasn't in shed when she was around my neck, I was just changing her water.
My SECOND photo she got out of shed so i was about to feed her. I never handle them when they are in shed...I didn't post these photos to get a lesson on taking care of my snakes. If I need advice I ask for it.
and for that comment "hur dur I got bit by my snake how cool is that?" thats also a little harsh. read carefully and understand that i'm not trying to be cool here lol. Its just a photo. Damn.
I'm not trying to be rude but its a little disrespectful to me because I'm not doing anything wrong and everyone is assuming I am.

You said that she was in shed during the time she was supposed to be in fed, so I naturally assumed she was in shed. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Still, snakes have the strongest feeding response right out shed (at least in my experience), and they also just got out of a stressful period of time so bites can be more likely as they're still getting out of that mindset. It's also not about whether or not you care about getting bit by your snakes, it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby. I don't really care whether or not you mind being bit, that's not pertinent. It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.

This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.

+1

[Emmamuradian]

This is an open forum and when you post something that people have issues with, then maybe you should stop responding to this thread.

Why would I not respond to a thread I started? Its time you stop.

[Emmamuradian]

[QUOTE=bigsnakegirl785;940152]You said that she was in shed during the time she was supposed to be in fed, so I naturally assumed she was in shed. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Still, snakes have the strongest feeding response right out shed (at least in my experience), and they also just got out of a stressful period of time so bites can be more likely as they're still getting out of that mindset. It's also not about whether or not you care about getting bit by your snakes, it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby. I don't really care whether or not you mind being bit, that's not pertinent. It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.


Its okay, that was for my second photo.. these photos are 2 months apart. During the eye bite she was nowhere near shed.
Yes but if this is an open thread I should be able to post what I want..im just posting photos..How come its ok for others to post snake bites for example bhb..yeah they talk about what to do when being bit or preventing it or whatever..but its still showing the bites..Its not murder I can post it if I want people dont need to get offended..If people wanted to turn it into a thread about experiences of getting bitten and teaching about it..I wouldn't mind.. as long as people dont go assuming things acting like they know the scenario.
It would be right to ASK "hey what happened here I can tell you what went wrong"... not "these are beginner mistakes" Im not stupid.

[SSSSnakes]

Why would I not respond to a thread I started? Its time you stop.

I will respond to open threads until the message get a crossed. Many people have issues with this thread, that should tell you there is something wrong with what you are doing here. This forum's members are, for the most part, are responsible keepers that are looking to not give law makers any more reasons to limit us. They also are looking out for the best care for the snake. A bite from a snake can injure the snake by having teeth break off and causing an infection. Also a snake bite can cause an infection in a person.

[Mikoh4792]

it's about what a thread like the one you originally had in mind would reflect on our hobby.It's about whether or not law makers could latch onto this to further their anti-exotics agenda, or parents just thinking they're dangerous monsters. I do think that precautions should be taken to minimize bites, however, where possible.



+1

Just saw this being passed around FB and thought it was relevant to this post

Just a reminder for NY herpers...I've seen quite a few photos of small children holding herps...

The New York DEC passed a law that it is a felony for the owner of a reptile or exotic pet if someone gets bitten/injured by said animal. This law can be interpreted as the owner and your children if it is (manditorily) reported by your physician, school nurse, teacher the kid tells the story to....even if the animal is the child's own pet, parents are the supervisory adults. This felony charge includes jail time...so be careful, and be careful of what photos and stories you post.

The species doesn't matter...under the law there is no difference in danger between a baby ball python, beardie, leopard gecko, or a 12 foot 60 lb burmese python. Your state government is run by total morons {SURPRISE!}.

Now that DEC has officially labelled reptiles 'dangerous animals', these will also be things that CPS will look for in the home to determine safety of a child in the home.
Cage locks, separate locked room won't matter to them.

[FWK]

Just saw this being passed around FB and thought it was relevant to this post

Just a reminder for NY herpers...I've seen quite a few photos of small children holding herps...

The New York DEC passed a law that it is a felony for the owner of a reptile or exotic pet if someone gets bitten/injured by said animal. This law can be interpreted as the owner and your children if it is (manditorily) reported by your physician, school nurse, teacher the kid tells the story to....even if the animal is the child's own pet, parents are the supervisory adults. This felony charge includes jail time...so be careful, and be careful of what photos and stories you post.

The species doesn't matter...under the law there is no difference in danger between a baby ball python, beardie, leopard gecko, or a 12 foot 60 lb burmese python. Your state government is run by total morons {SURPRISE!}.

Now that DEC has officially labelled reptiles 'dangerous animals', these will also be things that CPS will look for in the home to determine safety of a child in the home.
Cage locks, separate locked room won't matter to them.

Rofl, NY has been on the cutting edge of governmental stupidity for quite some time now. BEWARE THE KILLER GECKOS!!! Who the hell is voting for these idiots?

[IW17]

The unfortunate situation new York finds itself in, is that the overwhelming majority of the population lives in new York City. So in essence, one city controls the state. I feel sorry for those living outside the city. I can only imagine how frustrating it could be.

[Mikoh4792]

The unfortunate situation new York finds itself in, is that the overwhelming majority of the population lives in new York City. So in essence, one city controls the state. I feel sorry for those living outside the city. I can only imagine how frustrating it could be.

Yup, LI'er here.

[bigsnakegirl785]

Just saw this being passed around FB and thought it was relevant to this post

Just a reminder for NY herpers...I've seen quite a few photos of small children holding herps...

The New York DEC passed a law that it is a felony for the owner of a reptile or exotic pet if someone gets bitten/injured by said animal. This law can be interpreted as the owner and your children if it is (manditorily) reported by your physician, school nurse, teacher the kid tells the story to....even if the animal is the child's own pet, parents are the supervisory adults. This felony charge includes jail time...so be careful, and be careful of what photos and stories you post.

The species doesn't matter...under the law there is no difference in danger between a baby ball python, beardie, leopard gecko, or a 12 foot 60 lb burmese python. Your state government is run by total morons {SURPRISE!}.

Now that DEC has officially labelled reptiles 'dangerous animals', these will also be things that CPS will look for in the home to determine safety of a child in the home.
Cage locks, separate locked room won't matter to them.

Jeez, that's just ridiculous. But not all that surprising, sadly. It's even more ridiculous that it's a felony of all things.

[MDT]

Who the hell is voting for these idiots?


But..but...it's for the children!!!!!

Everybody is for "feel good" legislation, until they actually take the time to thoughtfully try to understand it...but by then, it's to late to realize what a dog turd of a law was just foisted upon the populace.

[Emmamuradian]

I will respond to open threads until the message get a crossed. Many people have issues with this thread, that should tell you there is something wrong with what you are doing here. This forum's members are, for the most part, are responsible keepers that are looking to not give law makers any more reasons to limit us. They also are looking out for the best care for the snake. A bite from a snake can injure the snake by having teeth break off and causing an infection. Also a snake bite can cause an infection in a person.

Pointless..just calm down and get over it.

[Emmamuradian]

I will respond to open threads until the message get a crossed. Many people have issues with this thread, that should tell you there is something wrong with what you are doing here. This forum's members are, for the most part, are responsible keepers that are looking to not give law makers any more reasons to limit us. They also are looking out for the best care for the snake. A bite from a snake can injure the snake by having teeth break off and causing an infection. Also a snake bite can cause an infection in a person.


and there is nothing im doing wrong. Thats just your opinion so keep it to yourself and move along

[Tsubaki]

If you expect people to keep their opinion to yourself, i don't know what you're doing on a forum. If you open a thread, you put the information you post on display for reactions by others. Positive And Negative alike. That you do not think you're doing anything wrong, that is your own opinion. A lot of people disagree with you, and they have as much right to post their opinion as you do yours.

My opinion on this thread is one shared by many, if you get bit you did something wrong. It cán be harmful for the animal, the human, and the opinion of others about exotic pets. So it should be avoided, not advocated in a thread that comes across like 'how awesome are snakebites'.. That's all.

[SSSSnakes]

and there is nothing im doing wrong. Thats just your opinion so keep it to yourself and move along

I am calm, and this is a public forum and I have a right to express my opinion any time I want to. You may have started this thread, but you do not own it. Open your eyes and see what is happening in the reptile industry and hobby with these new laws, Oh sorry, you probably can't open your eye all the way after that snake bite.

[Aaron_S]

I totally get that and thank you for the concern, my point in all of this is that I didn't post these photos to get lessons, to get taught how to take care or handle or not get bit by my snakes..I posted these photos for fun its just a photo...Im ok with being bitten by my snakes..if anything..I like the feeling.
But, they way I care for my snakes...Im happy with it. I didnt need lectures haha just wanted to post a photo..If I need help I ask for it ..If you guys want to help me so bad go check out my other post where I found a lump on my snake and wasnt sure what it was..I dont know if the way I write sounds rude but im not trying to be rude..I really appreciate the effort its just not what I posted these pics for :)

That thread has been responded to 3 times now and you haven't been back. All three have given the same advice by the way.

As for judgement on husbandry I don't personally care aslong as the animal isn't being harmed or could negatively be affected. Your animals, your decision on how you want to handle them and how you want to feed them. As Matt said, if you're fine with the extra effort then by all means, go forth.

The part of the message that I think other people are trying to convey to you is the posting of these pictures and a few of your comments. I know and everyone else knows they weren't posted in malice or in a negative manner.
However, our hobby is constantly under attack by law makers and other agencies looking to take or limit our passions.

Saying stuff like you enjoy the feeling of being bit and the pictures where you easily could have lost an eye to a species of snake that everyone claims as "No danger to humans." is not really helping our cause. It's putting more ammo into the hands of those who oppose us.
As a reptile keeper we all understand our snakes but the general public doesn't so we need to put the other shoe on the other foot on and look at things from how they would view it.
I know it's a lot to ask but we all have a small bit of responsibilty to the hobby/community as a whole that we all hold dear to put our best foot forward and ensure the world sees us as the responsible keepers that we are.

[Cmwells90]

Emma, It's obvious you're upset because they're telling you not to put you BP around your neck, I'm sure you think it's crazy because he only bit you once and it was probably an "accident", but many of us have been around to see what happens when it's not "Just an accident" and it turns into something real and dangerous. Now I'm not saying all snakes are dangerous, but it's like playing with anything that can do damage, one day it can get out of control. People HAVE lost eyes because of snakes bites, and people HAVE had serious damage when a snake latches on like that, I myself had a boa tear up my arm, I was younger and unaware of the issue. So when some of us see an issue like this, we provide our input so we can help YOU to avoid this issue. If you want to trust your BP and keep it around your neck, then go ahead. But it's clear that it'll bite you in the face, it's done it before, reguardless of the reason it bit you. All we want to do is help you the easy way, not the hard way. That's all.

[SnoopySnake]

Saying stuff like you enjoy the feeling of being bit and the pictures where you easily could have lost an eye to a species of snake that everyone claims as "No danger to humans." is not really helping our cause. It's putting more ammo into the hands of those who oppose us.
As a reptile keeper we all understand our snakes but the general public doesn't so we need to put the other shoe on the other foot on and look at things from how they would view it.
I know it's a lot to ask but we all have a small bit of responsibilty to the hobby/community as a whole that we all hold dear to put our best foot forward and ensure the world sees us as the responsible keepers that we are.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[David VB]

Just my 2 cent on all of this.

First, threads like this (as meant by the OP, so for the fun of seeing/posting bites) is plain stupid. Yes, i've taken pics of my 2 bites too and posted them on FB in a group, but as a warning to those who asked how Morelia viridis are. So i do agree that those threads should not be opened for any reason but to teach how to react (i.e. do not pull arm or whatever away). Also, i do agree that showing them to outsiders can go both ways, but yes, they should know it can happen.

As for the feeding outside or inside, i don't think there is A good way here. I started out feeding outside, but as said got bitten by my gtp's. Why did i do it? Coz i was told to, so that the snake 'knows' it will be fed and won't bite... With reading and learning more about snakes, i changed to feeding in their enclosure (i do not only have gtp's, also boa, burm,balls and spilota...) and nothing changed to their behavior. The gtp's still are nasty and all the others are sweeties ;)

On the other hand, being bitten is not always a beginners mistake i think. I am very careful with doing anything in the ftp enclosure, but man they are fast as hell. It is true though that i learned not to do much or anything in the enclosure after lights go out, coz then they really are feisty :)

Lastly, i think its disturbing that you enjoy seeing those bites tbh...

[Emmamuradian]

If you expect people to keep their opinion to yourself, i don't know what you're doing on a forum. If you open a thread, you put the information you post on display for reactions by others. Positive And Negative alike. That you do not think you're doing anything wrong, that is your own opinion. A lot of people disagree with you, and they have as much right to post their opinion as you do yours.

My opinion on this thread is one shared by many, if you get bit you did something wrong. It cán be harmful for the animal, the human, and the opinion of others about exotic pets. So it should be avoided, not advocated in a thread that comes across like 'how awesome are snakebites'.. That's all.

thats what its starting to come across as.. That not what I wanted lol.
But whatever, there is a lot of negative comments people can't just have fun anymore its all business

[Emmamuradian]

I am calm, and this is a public forum and I have a right to express my opinion any time I want to. You may have started this thread, but you do not own it. Open your eyes and see what is happening in the reptile industry and hobby with these new laws, Oh sorry, you probably can't open your eye all the way after that snake bite.

Never said I own it..oh your so funny! My eye is fine ha..nice one. Oops, there YOU and only you go assuming again :D:D;) funny

[Emmamuradian]

That thread has been responded to 3 times now and you haven't been back. All three have given the same advice by the way.

As for judgement on husbandry I don't personally care aslong as the animal isn't being harmed or could negatively be affected. Your animals, your decision on how you want to handle them and how you want to feed them. As Matt said, if you're fine with the extra effort then by all means, go forth.

The part of the message that I think other people are trying to convey to you is the posting of these pictures and a few of your comments. I know and everyone else knows they weren't posted in malice or in a negative manner.
However, our hobby is constantly under attack by law makers and other agencies looking to take or limit our passions.

Saying stuff like you enjoy the feeling of being bit and the pictures where you easily could have lost an eye to a species of snake that everyone claims as "No danger to humans." is not really helping our cause. It's putting more ammo into the hands of those who oppose us.
As a reptile keeper we all understand our snakes but the general public doesn't so we need to put the other shoe on the other foot on and look at things from how they would view it.
I know it's a lot to ask but we all have a small bit of responsibilty to the hobby/community as a whole that we all hold dear to put our best foot forward and ensure the world sees us as the responsible keepers that we are.


I dont mind being bit..I dont crave it. lol. I'm still sticking with my thoughts.

[Emmamuradian]

Emma, It's obvious you're upset because they're telling you not to put you BP around your neck, I'm sure you think it's crazy because he only bit you once and it was probably an "accident", but many of us have been around to see what happens when it's not "Just an accident" and it turns into something real and dangerous. Now I'm not saying all snakes are dangerous, but it's like playing with anything that can do damage, one day it can get out of control. People HAVE lost eyes because of snakes bites, and people HAVE had serious damage when a snake latches on like that, I myself had a boa tear up my arm, I was younger and unaware of the issue. So when some of us see an issue like this, we provide our input so we can help YOU to avoid this issue. If you want to trust your BP and keep it around your neck, then go ahead. But it's clear that it'll bite you in the face, it's done it before, reguardless of the reason it bit you. All we want to do is help you the easy way, not the hard way. That's all.

In the beginning, nobody was trying to help, they were attacking me and calling me a rookie, with beginner mistakes.. lmao..once again, I am in no way harming my snakes..I take good care of them and thats not going to change..If I need to put my BP around my neck to clean her cage then I will..I dont need people telling me that I should put her in a different enclosure or w.e they want to say..Its my desision I REALLY APPRECIATE the help..but that's not why I made this post. Again, when I need help, I post it.

[Emmamuradian]

Just my 2 cent on all of this.

First, threads like this (as meant by the OP, so for the fun of seeing/posting bites) is plain stupid. Yes, i've taken pics of my 2 bites too and posted them on FB in a group, but as a warning to those who asked how Morelia viridis are. So i do agree that those threads should not be opened for any reason but to teach how to react (i.e. do not pull arm or whatever away). Also, i do agree that showing them to outsiders can go both ways, but yes, they should know it can happen.

As for the feeding outside or inside, i don't think there is A good way here. I started out feeding outside, but as said got bitten by my gtp's. Why did i do it? Coz i was told to, so that the snake 'knows' it will be fed and won't bite... With reading and learning more about snakes, i changed to feeding in their enclosure (i do not only have gtp's, also boa, burm,balls and spilota...) and nothing changed to their behavior. The gtp's still are nasty and all the others are sweeties ;)

On the other hand, being bitten is not always a beginners mistake i think. I am very careful with doing anything in the ftp enclosure, but man they are fast as hell. It is true though that i learned not to do much or anything in the enclosure after lights go out, coz then they really are feisty :)

Lastly, i think its disturbing that you enjoy seeing those bites tbh...

Ok, good for you. Disturbing? Relax, I dont enjoy looking at venoumous bites that someone lost a leg over..Its not some weird fetish..I just like seeing snakes bite. Shoot me.

[Emmamuradian]

Anyways I'm done with this thread, so many hard headed people on here that just think about their $business$..Its annoying and stupid..If I can I would delete this whole thing it was pretty pointless. If I can delete this stupidity..someone let me know how please

[Aaron_S]

I dont mind being bit..I dont crave it. lol. I'm still sticking with my thoughts.

It's your right to do so. I posted my thoughts on the big picture not just for you but for other readers to see it and realize we can't sit around in our basements and pray that "it will all blow over." The government isn't coming anymore. It's here. Reasons why we have USARK and CanHERP organizations now.

[Aaron_S]

Ok, good for you. Disturbing? Relax, I dont enjoy looking at venoumous bites that someone lost a leg over..Its not some weird fetish..I just like seeing snakes bite. Shoot me.

Play nice now Emma. You can't criticsize someone's opinion on what they find disturbing if you're asking others to not criticsize yours.

[Emmamuradian]

Play nice now Emma. You can't criticsize someone's opinion on what they find disturbing if you're asking others to not criticsize yours.

What goes around comes around.
I'm very nice.

[SSSSnakes]

[QUOTE=Emmamuradian;940384If I can delete this stupidity..someone let me know how please[/QUOTE]

Stupidity can not be deleted, but if people were willing to listen to others and learn, the amount of stupidity could be reduced.


A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

[Emmamuradian]

Stupidity can not be deleted, but if people were willing to listen to others and learn, the amount of stupidity could be reduced.


A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

Unfortunate isn't it.

[SSSSnakes]

Unfortunate isn't it.

I thought you were done posting on this thread. Can't leave anything go can you?

[Emmamuradian]

I thought you were done posting on this thread. Can't leave anything go can you?

hahahaaa Do you know me now?

[SSSSnakes]

hahahaaa Do you know me now?

I don't want to know you. But I know your kind. Respond to this and prove me right.

[Emmamuradian]

I don't want to know you. But I know your kind. Respond to this and prove me right.

Good. I like having the last word so you can go on an think you are right big guy

[SSSSnakes]

good. I like having the last word so you can go on an think you are right big guy

ha ha ha ha

[Mikoh4792]

In the beginning, nobody was trying to help, they were attacking me and calling me a rookie, with beginner mistakes.. lmao..once again, I am in no way harming my snakes..I take good care of them and thats not going to change..If I need to put my BP around my neck to clean her cage then I will..I dont need people telling me that I should put her in a different enclosure or w.e they want to say..Its my desision I REALLY APPRECIATE the help..but that's not why I made this post. Again, when I need help, I post it.

Stating that you are making beginner mistakes is not attacking you. No one is saying that stuff to hurt your feelings, but rather to teach you. Advice does not only need to be given when asked for, and teaching someone is not condescending... I think it's rather nice. If your ego wasn't so big you'd acknowledge that fact.

[David VB]

Ok, good for you. Disturbing? Relax, I dont enjoy looking at venoumous bites that someone lost a leg over..Its not some weird fetish..I just like seeing snakes bite. Shoot me.

If you look at my name you can see a belgian flag, so you could know that english is not my main language and 'disturbing' is the best i could find to describe what i thought of it. Maybe that word is a bit heavy, but that i do not know for sure. I just wanted to say that i don't think it's very healthy to have an abnormal interest in getting bitten or watch those bites...

Otherwise, i'm very relaxed. Thank you ;)

I hope most can understand i'm doing the best i can with typing english as good as possible.

[SnoopySnake]

If you look at my name you can see a belgian flag, so you could know that english is not my main language and 'disturbing' is the best i could find to describe what i thought of it. Maybe that word is a bit heavy, but that i do not know for sure. I just wanted to say that i don't think it's very healthy to have an abnormal interest in getting bitten or watch those bites...

I would say disturbing is the perfect word for it, haha. I thought it was disturbing too

[Emmamuradian]

ha ha ha ha

:) toodles ;)

[Emmamuradian]

Stating that you are making beginner mistakes is not attacking you. No one is saying that stuff to hurt your feelings, but rather to teach you. Advice does not only need to be given when asked for, and teaching someone is not condescending... I think it's rather nice. If your ego wasn't so big you'd acknowledge that fact.

Let me rephrase..I didnt mean everyone was attacking my there was only one person being pretty rude from the way he was "talking" I'm sure by now you know who that is :) My ego isnt big..i just hate when people have to ruin stuff or be a "Debbie downer" Just chill Im not a 12 year old trying to be cool on this forum..I could give 2 SH**s if people on here think "damn shes so cool, a snake bit her eye" (thats not what I want lol)
All Im saying is I know what happened, I know EXACTLY the reason why she bit me. Both times. Why would people try to tell me other things..
I never wanted this thread to turn bad!!

[Emmamuradian]

If you look at my name you can see a belgian flag, so you could know that english is not my main language and 'disturbing' is the best i could find to describe what i thought of it. Maybe that word is a bit heavy, but that i do not know for sure. I just wanted to say that i don't think it's very healthy to have an abnormal interest in getting bitten or watch those bites...

Otherwise, i'm very relaxed. Thank you ;)

I hope most can understand i'm doing the best i can with typing english as good as possible.

Lol, your english is good..I get what you were trying to say. I guess some people think its weird. I don't find it disturbing. Again, I'm not looking at photos that are "disturbing" like ripped up and you know..ugly. I'm talking about photos like the second one I posted. Is that photo disturbing?

[Emmamuradian]

I would say disturbing is the perfect word for it, haha. I thought it was disturbing too

Its really not..? See what I said in reply to David. Sorry I dont know how to really reply to two people on this yet

[Mikoh4792]

Its really not..? See what I said in reply to David. Sorry I dont know how to really reply to two people on this yet

Right next to "quote" there is the button with the plus sign. Just click that button on whatever posts you want to reply to and then click "quote".

[David VB]

Lol, your english is good..I get what you were trying to say. I guess some people think its weird. I don't find it disturbing. Again, I'm not looking at photos that are "disturbing" like ripped up and you know..ugly. I'm talking about photos like the second one I posted. Is that photo disturbing?

No, it's most definitely not. But, when opening a thread with this title, it could have gotten worse, with pretty nasty bite wound pictures. Because yes, there are others who photograph these and post them ;)

[SnoopySnake]

I wouldn't say the picture is disturbing, what I thought was disturbing is this.vv And also your inability to see where everyone's coming from here.
Im ok with being bitten by my snakes..if anything..I like the feeling.

[Emmamuradian]

No, it's most definitely not. But, when opening a thread with this title, it could have gotten worse, with pretty nasty bite wound pictures. Because yes, there are others who photograph these and post them ;)

Possible. but...i don't know.

[Emmamuradian]

Right next to "quote" there is the button with the plus sign. Just click that button on whatever posts you want to reply to and then click "quote".

Thank you.

[Emmamuradian]

I wouldn't say the picture is disturbing, what I thought was disturbing is this.vv And also your inability to see where everyone's coming from here.

Why is that disturbing? Because it doesn't hurt? The word disturbing is making me feel like I'm some weird freak lol.

[SSSSnakes]

:) toodles ;)

I'm not going anywhere. What happened to you when you said you were going to leave this thread?

It seams everyone is in agreement with this thread being in bad taste. Just admit you made a mistake and leave it go. At least do what you said you were going to do and stop posting on this thread.

[Emmamuradian]

I'm not going anywhere. What happened to you when you said you were going to leave this thread?

It seams everyone is in agreement with this thread being in bad taste. Just admit you made a mistake and leave it go. At least do what you said you were going to do and stop posting on this thread.

Oh my god can YOU only you just stop. and Leave..Damn you are annoying as hell. If I read there were somethings to reply to then ill reply, just like this ...wow you are bored as hell

[Little Wise Owl]

thats what its starting to come across as.. That not what I wanted lol.
But whatever, there is a lot of negative comments people can't just have fun anymore its all business

We can have fun but have to watch how we do it. If you haven't heard for the 100 millionth time WE ARE UNDER A VERY WATCHFUL EYE. We slip up and that's fuel for the anti-exotic fire. We have to be responsible or else we may not be able to "enjoy the feeling" of being bitten ever again.

Seriously. Stop taking criticism and other people's opinions so personal and just be more careful in the future.

[SSSSnakes]

Oh my god can YOU only you just stop. and Leave..Damn you are annoying as hell. If I read there were somethings to reply to then ill reply, just like this ...wow you are bored as hell

I'll mess with your mind, you can't stop. This is sooooo much fun for me. All you have to do is stop posting and I'll go away. But I know you can't. You have to keep posting, so this thread keeps going on. Stop posting and this thread will go away.

I'm not bored, you don't know me, stop judging me. Blah blah blah blah. LOL

[SnoopySnake]

Oh my god can YOU only you just stop. and Leave..Damn you are annoying as hell. If I read there were somethings to reply to then ill reply, just like this ...wow you are bored as hell

Did you not read the part of the rules that said no profanities? You seem to have quite the potty mouth.

[Emmamuradian]

I'll mess with your mind, you can't stop. This is sooooo much fun for me. All you have to do is stop posting and I'll go away. But I know you can't. You have to keep posting, so this thread keeps going on. Stop posting and this thread will go away.

I'm not bored, you don't know me, stop judging me. Blah blah blah blah. LOL

lmaooooooo

[Emmamuradian]

Did you not read the part of the rules that said no profanities? You seem to have quite the potty mouth.

silly me..

[SSSSnakes]

lmaooooooo

Obviously, that is all you do is laugh. Never taking anything seriously.

[Little Wise Owl]

I feel like we could have turned this into an educational thread where we post photos of our bites, tell the story on how we got them and inform others on how to avoid them in the future. But instead it has turned into a let's-see-how-much-I-can-annoy-the-other-posters and honestly it's quite stupid.

[MDT]

I'm thinking that we break out the wading pool, fill it w jell-o and have at it. Best two out of three falls wins.

I'd def buy tickets.

[NewHerp293]

I'm thinking that we break out the wading pool, fill it w jell-o and have at it. Best two out of three falls wins.

I'd def buy tickets.

Hahaha start taking bets yet?? Cracked me up

[Emmamuradian]

Obviously, that is all you do is laugh. Never taking anything seriously.

Never..you seriously act like you know me..
please go ahead and say " i dont want to know you" again.

[Emmamuradian]

I feel like we could have turned this into an educational thread where we post photos of our bites, tell the story on how we got them and inform others on how to avoid them in the future. But instead it has turned into a let's-see-how-much-I-can-annoy-the-other-posters and honestly it's quite stupid.

That would've been but nice bu this is stupid.

[Emmamuradian]

I'm thinking that we break out the wading pool, fill it w jell-o and have at it. Best two out of three falls wins.

I'd def buy tickets.

lets do it.

[Little Wise Owl]

That would've been but nice bu this is stupid.

Well you're not helping by fueling the fire by replying with snarky, sarcastic comments. And neither is anyone else.

[Emmamuradian]

Well you're not helping by fueling the fire by replying with snarky, sarcastic comments. And neither is anyone else.

eh, im not going to sit here and act like on not offended. But, it came to a point that I realized I'm arguing with someone much older than me that's just bored on his computer ! :)

[SSSSnakes]

Never..you seriously act like you know me..
please go ahead and say " i dont want to know you" again.

Since you said please. I don't want to know you. Again, I'm not bored,, I enjoy aggravating you, and you make it so easy.

[Mikoh4792]

How did I know that by several pages in this thread would have nothing to do with the original topic? haha

[SSSSnakes]

How did I know that by several pages in this thread would have nothing to do with the original topic? haha

I'm just having fun, not being serious. There has been nothing to learn from this thread for a long time. lol

[Mikoh4792]

I'm just having fun, not being serious. There has been nothing to learn from this thread for a long time. lol

Wasn't directed at you, I'm actually entertained with the back and forth between you guys lol.

[Emmamuradian]

I'm just having fun, not being serious. There has been nothing to learn from this thread for a long time. lol

Wasn't directed at you, I'm actually entertained with the back and forth between you guys lol.

Since you said please. I don't want to know you. Again, I'm not bored,, I enjoy aggravating you, and you make it so easy.

Thanks I try :)

[Emmamuradian]

Since you said please. I don't want to know you. Again, I'm not bored,, I enjoy aggravating you, and you make it so easy.

You don't phase me to aggravate me lol I'm just a very hard headed person I always fight back

[SSSSnakes]

You don't phase me to aggravate me lol I'm just a very hard headed person I always fight back

I don't care, I let things roll off my back. I'm not in a fight, what are you fighting back against? I'm waiting to see how long this will go on, so far it's 8 pages of Blah Blah Blah

[SSSSnakes]

Oh my god can YOU only you just stop. and Leave..Damn you are annoying as hell. If I read there were somethings to reply to then ill reply, just like this ...wow you are bored as hell

and there is nothing im doing wrong. Thats just your opinion so keep it to yourself and move along

Anyways I'm done with this thread, so many hard headed people on here that just think about their $business$..Its annoying and stupid..If I can I would delete this whole thing it was pretty pointless. If I can delete this stupidity..someone let me know how please

You don't phase me to aggravate me lol I'm just a very hard headed person I always fight back

Sounds to me that others and I do aggravate you. LOL

[LiL Zap]

Hey Emma, I don't think anyone here is attacking you. You're saying that you don't make rookie mistakes but yet you feed in a separate enclosure and get bit in the eye. Instead of being really defensive, just at least consider what everyone is saying.

I will admit, I know people can be really annoying on this forum but in this case they're just trying to show you the mistakes you made. If anything, just PM me. I'm not trying to argue or anything.

[CrotalusR#1]

For all that we're talking negative about this post.
I really don't think the word inexperienced fits well at all..the most experienced herpetologist have been bitten . They all have thousands of hours dealing with snakes and still get bitten, some on a daily bases. For me being bitten by non venomous snakes is nothing so when I'm handling say a boa and I get bit that doesn't mean I'm inexperienced it just means I'm not scared to take a bite to the point where it's not even on my mind... Working with venomous is completely different....what some of you are saying about the media turning what's really nothing into something huge and that in tern being potentially detrimental to the hobby, I don't disagree I defiantly agree. I just thought saying being bitten is a result of being inexperienced was ridiculous.... That being said of course in some cases a bite can be a result of a lack in experience but for me and most others a bite from a non venomous is just no big deal, it has nothing to do with being inexperienced..if there are any editorial mistakes I apologize, I am writing this on my phone and it is a little difficult.
Nathan




Nathan.

[IW17]

No one is saying that being bitten is caused by inexperience. Bites happen, to everyone. Which is why an experienced handler wouldn't have a snake in striking range of his/her face. That's what makes this a rookie mistake.

[CrotalusR#1]

IW17, not sure if you know of brian barczyk but if you don't he gets bitten a large amount of times literally every day. He has been dealing with thousands of snakes for decades now but I guess cas he still gets bitten he's a rookie write? See what I'm saying? If you are at the point where a bite is nothing to you than it's No longer a mistake it's just something that's expected and excepted.
Nathan

[SSSSnakes]

IW17, not sure if you know of brian barczyk but if you don't he gets bitten a large amount of times literally every day. He has been dealing with thousands of snakes for decades now but I guess cas he still gets bitten he's a rookie write? See what I'm saying? If you are at the point where a bite is nothing to you than it's No longer a mistake it's just something that's expected and excepted.
Nathan

Brian has videos promoting being bitten. He likes it and thinks it's cool. In this respect he is a bad influence. When the laws come down and restrict more of what he can sell, he may start to think differently. Just because you are a large breeder and famous, does not make you a responsible person or a good example.

[IW17]

IW17, not sure if you know of brian barczyk but if you don't he gets bitten a large amount of times literally every day. He has been dealing with thousands of snakes for decades now but I guess cas he still gets bitten he's a rookie write? See what I'm saying? If you are at the point where a bite is nothing to you than it's No longer a mistake it's just something that's expected and excepted.
Nathan

If you read my post I never said being bitten was a rookie mistake. I said all people get bitten, even experienced handlers. The rookie mistake is handling a snake in a manner that gets you bit in the face.

[Pareeeee]

I guess I'm lucky. None of my snakes have bitten me. Yet. I expect that will change now that I have a corn that goes ballistic on feeding day.

EDIT: I posted my reply without reading the other replies to this post first. Now I'm disappointed...looks like yet another post has degraded to argument-fest.