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fedupdon
09-26-14, 06:30 PM
Do anyone have a option on what's best to feed

SSSSnakes
09-26-14, 06:36 PM
I prefer F/T

CosmicOwl
09-26-14, 06:42 PM
Edit: realized this is in venom forum.

millertime89
09-26-14, 06:44 PM
I always prefer f/t, a wounded/dying animal can be very dangerous.

metalcopper
09-26-14, 07:31 PM
Always F/T.

alessia55
09-26-14, 07:51 PM
Moved this to the General Discussion section. ;)

F/T is always my vote.

Mad Max
09-26-14, 07:56 PM
All of the snakes eat F/T where I work, venomous or not.

millertime89
09-26-14, 08:07 PM
Moved this to the General Discussion section. ;)

F/T is always my vote.

I do believe the intent of OP was to ask specifically for hots, hence it being posted there.

alessia55
09-26-14, 08:09 PM
I do believe the intent of OP was to ask specifically for hots, hence it being posted there.

If that is the case, fedupdon, let me know and I'll switch it back to the venomous section.

SSSSnakes
09-26-14, 09:13 PM
I do believe the intent of OP was to ask specifically for hots, hence it being posted there.

I agree, it should be put back where it was originally posted. There was no reason to move it.

alessia55
09-27-14, 08:20 AM
Alright, alright. It's back in the Venomous section ;)

shaunyboy
09-27-14, 11:30 AM
frozen thawed is much safer to feed than live,live prey can bite the snake during feeding


i have nothing against folk live feeding

i just prefer not to put my snakes at risk by feeding live


cheers shaun

CosmicOwl
09-27-14, 03:32 PM
frozen thawed is much safer to feed than live,live prey can bite the snake during feeding


i have nothing against folk live feeding

i just prefer not to put my snakes at risk by feeding live


cheers shaun

I don't have experience with venomous snakes, but I will say that I do have a problem with people feeding live if it's not an absolute necessity to get an animal feeding. Live feeding is cruel to the prey.

shaunyboy
09-28-14, 01:06 PM
I don't have experience with venomous snakes, but I will say that I do have a problem with people feeding live if it's not an absolute necessity to get an animal feeding. Live feeding is cruel to the prey.

we keep predators they eat meat,there's nothing cruel about live feeding

that said,i have only ever fed live once....

i tried a live rat pup with a non feeding carpet hatchling to see if it would kick in a feeding response,when the hatchling refused to take the pup...

i fed it to a coastal carpet hatchling,because i didn't fancy killing the pup myself,or letting the pup starve to death, because it was too young to feed itself

even though i'm too chicken hearted to feed live i still don't see it as cruel,i do see it as dangerous to the snake though mate

cheers shaun

CosmicOwl
09-28-14, 01:41 PM
we keep predators they eat meat,there's nothing cruel about live feeding

that said,i have only ever fed live once....

i tried a live rat pup with a non feeding carpet hatchling to see if it would kick in a feeding response,when the hatchling refused to take the pup...

i fed it to a coastal carpet hatchling,because i didn't fancy killing the pup myself,or letting the pup starve to death, because it was too young to feed itself

even though i'm too chicken hearted to feed live i still don't see it as cruel,i do see it as dangerous to the snake though mate

cheers shaun

I very much disagree. I think it is extremely cruel to put an animal through the terror and agony of being killed by a snake. Just imagine being constricted to death. It's not instant. And many venoms can be painful. Who knows what some of them feel like when used on a prey item that venom did not evolve to kill?

This is just my opinion, but I don't believe in the "It's the way nature works," mumbo jumbo. People don't apply that logic to non feeding reptiles that would have starved to death in the wild(Went was the last time you saw a wild pinky covered in chicken broth or tuna juice). They don't apply it to morphs that would put the animals at a disadvantage in the wild. What about genes that coincide with neurological issue that could very well get a snake killed?

The snakes wouldn't exist without us. There would be a need for feeder animals to die if it weren't for our collections. For me, I think that means we have to treat prey animals humanely and not cause any undue pain or distress.

toddnbecka
09-28-14, 03:35 PM
Aside from the considerations of potential danger to the predator, either from direct attack or parasites, or concern for the feelings of the prey, frozen is simply much easier and more convenient to work with. If the snake doesn't take the food immediately it can be left overnight w/out any worries, not something I'd even consider doing with live rodents.
I remember back in college someone tried feeding a green anole to a garter snake. The anole actually attacked the garter snake, biting its head and drawing a couple drops of blood.

fedupdon
09-30-14, 06:27 PM
Thanks for the feed back What prompted this qa was I was chatting with a man who had venomoids the other party claims that venomous snake have to use there venom to aid in digestion.so feeding ft to a venomous snake was a bad ideal I brought up venoms puss because they don't have there venom

toddnbecka
09-30-14, 11:37 PM
Not all snake venom breaks down tissue, and the ones that do wouldn't be likely to make a significant difference to the overall digestion process.

jpsteele80
10-01-14, 01:30 PM
F/T all the way, never have any issues of worrying about the snake getting bit