Loki, my Eastern Indigo

[eminart]

After nearly 30 years of wishing, he has arrived! He was ready for pick up at the airport around 8:30 this morning. I work until 3:00pm, but I couldn't stand it, so I took a long lunch and rushed over to get him and drop him off at my house. I love him already. He's in blue, but he's still a striking little fellow. He's actually a 2013 hatchling. I would have expected him to be a bit longer, but he's much thicker than other colubrids of his size. As soon as he settles in, I'll start feeding and putting some length on him. Anyway, I'm very pleased with the little guy. Can't wait til he's settled in.

A few crappy cell phone photos until I'm able to get the camera out.

The obligatory box opening photo:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/image_1_zpsfa8d5f20.jpeg


My, what big, blue eyes you have!
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/photo_zpsef1ba701.jpg


And a closer one:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/image_zps4f6b1d24.jpeg

[EL Ziggy]

That's awesome eminart!! I LOVE indigos! I hope you'll continue to share pics as he matures.

[SnoopySnake]

Oh wow, he's awesome! Congrats on finally getting him after 30 years!! :) Can't wait to see pics as he grows with you.

[nazanova]

God damn look at those eyes! Congrats :)

[eminart]

Thanks guys! I'm back at work now. It was tough to come back in here. Haha.

Yeah, 30 years is a long time. I've wanted one since I first read about them in a reptile book from my school library. I think I was in the 3rd grade. I'm 37 now, so whatever that works out to be.

[sharthun]

Awesome! Beautiful! Congrats!!!:cool:

[Teal]

What a gorgeous little one! I can't wait to see more pictures! Congratulations (:

[BIGT FROM F.B.]

Indigo's are awesome!

[NewSAHSnakeMom]

I can't see it! My phone sucks! I get a stupid ? Mark box! :/ I bet its pretty too!

[Jim Smith]

CONGRATULATIONS!!! It's hard to believe that little guy will grow into such a beautiful regal looking adult. Please keep notes for those of us who would like to have an Indigo some day and of course post plenty of photos as he grows up.

[eminart]

I can't see it! My phone sucks! I get a stupid ? Mark box! :/ I bet its pretty too!


You can try this link: Indigo Photos by eminart | Photobucket (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/eminart/library/Herps/Indigo?sort=3&page=1)

[franks]

Awesome! I would love to have one of these guys. I'm happy for you. What kind of home do you have planned for him?

[eminart]

Here's a little video of him coming out of the box. Nothing too exciting but I couldn't be happier.

Sorry about the vertical orientation of the video. My 9 year old daughter was filming. But, in her defense, that is how I handed her my phone.

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[NewSAHSnakeMom]

Woohoo! So beautiful!!

[eminart]

Awesome! I would love to have one of these guys. I'm happy for you. What kind of home do you have planned for him?


Right now, he's going to live in a 20gal long tank that is blacked out on three sides. As soon as he outgrows that, I have a custom enclosure that is 36"L X 18"W that he'll probably live in for a while. When he's closer to adult size, I'm planning to build him a nice wooden enclosure with sliding glass doors on front. Probably somewhere around 8'L X 2' W X 3'H. I'm hoping to make it a bioactive, natural setup, but I need some experience with this snake before I decide if that will work.

[IW17]

You are officially one of the coolest people on here! Congratulations and keep us posted!

[franks]

Right now, he's going to live in a 20gal long tank that is blacked out on three sides. As soon as he outgrows that, I have a custom enclosure that is 36"L X 18"W that he'll probably live in for a while. When he's closer to adult size, I'm planning to build him a nice wooden enclosure with sliding glass doors on front. Probably somewhere around 8'L X 2' W X 3'H. I'm hoping to make it a bioactive, natural setup, but I need some experience with this snake before I decide if that will work.

That sounds awesome! I think you should just go for the bioactive substrate- especially in a beautiful enclosure that big. It's not a matter of if bioactive substrate will work its more a matter of what type of bioactive substrate will work and how to make it. No snake lives on paper towels and fine aspen shavings in the wild lol. Again congrats on the indigo- I have been reading on them, cool snakes man. Start keeping an eye out for shower doors- the best quality free glass a snake - cage maker can get.

[Pareeeee]

I am so jealous of you right now.

[eminart]

You are officially one of the coolest people on here! Congratulations and keep us posted!


I am so jealous of you right now.

Haha, thanks, and no need to be jealous. You can get one too, if you mortgage your soul like I did. ;)


That sounds awesome! I think you should just go for the bioactive substrate- especially in a beautiful enclosure that big. It's not a matter of if bioactive substrate will work its more a matter of what type of bioactive substrate will work and how to make it. No snake lives on paper towels and fine aspen shavings in the wild lol. Again congrats on the indigo- I have been reading on them, cool snakes man. Start keeping an eye out for shower doors- the best quality free glass a snake - cage maker can get.


I'm definitely leaning that way. When I step him up to his mid-sized enclosure, I might go ahead and go bioactive with it and get some practice with what works.


And just an update on him:

He seems to be doing well. As I mentioned, he was in blue when he arrived. The breeder said he needed to eat soon, so I offered him a meal the day after I got him, just to see if he'd eat. The only thing I had in the freezer small enough for him was pinkies that my daughter is feeding to her young corn snake. He ate two of those despite being in deep blue. I left him alone for a couple of days, and in the meantime, stopped by the local pet store and picked up some hoppers for him. Yesterday I noticed he's finally out of the blue phase, so I offered him a hopper, which he took down like a champ. So, he ate twice in the first four days I had him. He should shed within the next couple of days. I'm anxious to see his true colors.

[natsirtremraf]

Drooling with jealousy.... :D

[SnoopySnake]

So, he ate twice in the first four days I had him. He should shed within the next couple of days. I'm anxious to see his true colors.

Congrats on the first feedings, and we're anxious to see, too! :D

[eminart]

Another quick cell phone photo. Still in shed though.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki2_zpsd3be896c.jpg

[franks]

Geez. Can't wait to see that red face after he sheds.

[aaron_cg]

What is the process to legally own an Indigo? One of my all time favorite snakes right there.

[eminart]

Geez. Can't wait to see that red face after he sheds.

Me either. :D

What is the process to legally own an Indigo? One of my all time favorite snakes right there.

Depends on where you live. But, for all states, you need a federal interstate commerce permit, unless you're buying from within the state. And, if you live in a state where they're indigenous, as I do, then extra state permits will be required, which may be very difficult, or impossible to obtain. Depends on which of the indigenous states you live in.

[aaron_cg]

Texas. So, my guess is it is the same process for the canebrake, however, with this one I could buy instate?

[eminart]

Texas. So, my guess is it is the same process for the canebrake, however, with this one I could buy instate?

Unless Texas has any specific laws, which I doubt, you can buy one from within your state with no permit at all. If you can find one.

[eminart]

The wife just texted me this. Can't wait to get home and check him out.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki_zps0e437fd6.jpeg

[sharthun]

The wife just texted me this. Can't wait to get home and check him out.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki_zps0e437fd6.jpeg

Congrats on the first shed!!

[eminart]

Finally a chance to get some better photos. He's wiggly and fast though, so I was limited. Plus, I didn't want to have him out too long and stress him out. But, here's a few:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki065_zps462c8573.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki059_zpseee5939c.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki010_zps7ca76951.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki006_zpsc8ac1d7b.jpg

[franks]

Oh man those eyes! I love the black dripping from them like war paint.

[SnoopySnake]

Wow! He looks fantastic!! Congrats on the first shed :)

[LarryS]

That right there is a nice snake.

[EL Ziggy]

Wow Eminart, it must be nice to care for one of the world's most beautiful creatures :). Does he have a name?

[eminart]

Thanks again, everyone! Believe me, I feel lucky to have him. Drymarchon aren't for everyone, but I'm loving him. Can't wait until he gets some size and is a little less shy, although he has started to cruise about some.

Ziggy, his name is Loki. His roommate (room, not enclosure) is an egyptian tortoise named Poki. I guess we like -oki's in my house.

[carpets4life]

i should get one of those. they're so pretty!

[eminart]

This guy eats like a garbage disposal already. I love him. :D


Playing around with the gopro today:

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[SnoopySnake]

This guy eats like a garbage disposal already. I love him. :D

Hahaha, that's awesome. He really meant business with that mouse. :D

[eminart]

Thought I'd stop in and drop off an recent photo of Loki. He's doing well. He's doubled in weight during the month or so I've had him. Awesome little guy.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki_9-5-14098_zps8eedb316.jpg

[sharthun]

Beautiful snake!! :)

[drumcrush]

Wow! Beautiful!

[EL Ziggy]

He is awesome eminart. He wasn't playing around with that mouse either :)

[CosmicOwl]

I've always wanted an indigo. Maybe one day, if I don't live in Florida.

[eminart]

Thanks guys. He's still doing ok, but ever since I got him out for that last photo, he's been a little shy about eating. He seems intimidated when I dangle his food in there, and has refused to eat it. I've started just placing it under his hide, and he has been eating it within a few minutes. Just going to leave him alone for a while and see if he settles back in.

[charlesc84]

My god that snake is absolutely stunning.

[eminart]

My god that snake is absolutely stunning.


Thanks!


He's doing great. He's really started to grow lately. I need to get a few updated photos as soon as he sheds. He's opaque right now. I upgraded him to a larger enclosure yesterday. He could have stayed in the 20g long that he was in for a while longer, but my daughter needed it for her gerbils, so I went ahead and cleaned up his mid-sized enclosure and put him in it. It's 36x18". I think he'll stay in that until I build his adult home.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/lokienclosure_zps809e9400.jpg

[Tsubaki]

Nice! Looks a bit empty though :)

[eminart]

Just a crappy cell phone photo, but I realized it has been a long time since I got any photos of Loki. He's doing well. He's now at about 36". So, he's grown 13" in just over 4 months. And he's still a cool little dude.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki1_zps967600b6.jpg

[Minkness]

Wow! SO black!

I have a serious fondness for all black snakes lol.

Loki looks amazing!

[sharthun]

Loki is stunning!:cool:

[dave himself]

Congratulations he's well worth the wait :)

[EL Ziggy]

I think Indigos are one of the world's most beautiful snakes and yours is a great example eminart.

[eminart]

A couple of better photos of my man, Loki.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki132_zpse2f21316.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/Loki140_zps49dc6f0e.jpg

[Rattlehead]

Absolutely beautiful!

[eminart]

Thanks, guys!

[eminart]

Just messing around. Not sure why it came out so blurry though.

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[EL Ziggy]

Simply amazing eminart! Maybe one day my dream of keeping one will come true :)

[eminart]

Simply amazing eminart! Maybe one day my dream of keeping one will come true :)


I don't know where you live, so I don't know if it's legalities or the cost that's holding you back. But, either way, you might look into the cribos. I want a couple of every drymarchon species. ;) They're all cool.

[EL Ziggy]

I don't know where you live, so I don't know if it's legalities or the cost that's holding you back. But, either way, you might look into the cribos. I want a couple of every drymarchon species. ;) They're all cool.
Cribos are nice but they're not Indigos which are a protected species here in GA. The Indigos are a bit costly too but worth it.

[eminart]

Since all the cool kids are doing it, I made a stop motion video of Loki shedding.

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[EL Ziggy]

Sweet video eminart. The music was a nice touch too. Loki is AMAZING!

[eminart]

Thanks, ziggy!

[sharthun]

Awesome! Loki is one gorgeous snake!

[eminart]

Thanks, sharthun! I love this little guy. I've gone from feeding him every three days to feeding him every two days. I'll slow down when he gets up to about five feet or so, but he had some catching up to do size-wise when I got him. He's definitely growing like a weed now though.

[sharthun]

Thanks, sharthun! I love this little guy. I've gone from feeding him every three days to feeding him every two days. I'll slow down when he gets up to about five feet or so, but he had some catching up to do size-wise when I got him. He's definitely growing like a weed now though.

Of course! You can call me Steve BTW,lol Keep us updated on Loki!

[knox]

My Black Milk is awesome, but the Indigo is my dream snake. Thanks for keeping us updated!

[sharthun]

My Black Milk is awesome, but the Indigo is my dream snake. Thanks for keeping us updated!

I'm right there with ya brother Knox!

[eminart]

Hey, guys, thanks again for the comments. Usually, this time of year, I spend every day with my falconry hobby and filming it with my gopro. I'm taking a short break from falconry this year, so I've turned my camera to my other hobby. So, here's another pointless video of Loki at feeding time. (He needs a bigger flower pot now ;) )

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[EL Ziggy]

I so look forward to your posts eminart. That Loki is something special. And you're a Falconer? That's another 1000 cool points :).

[sharthun]

Good job Loki! :cool:

[eminart]

I so look forward to your posts eminart. That Loki is something special. And you're a Falconer? That's another 1000 cool points :).


Yes, but I don't know about cool points. My wife would probably call them crazy points.

[Minkness]

You actually own a falcon?!

That's pretty freakin cool in my book!

[eminart]

You actually own a falcon?!

That's pretty freakin cool in my book!

At the moment, I'm birdless. I'll pick back up next fall. I usually fly red tailed hawks. Most falcons aren't really cut out for the game and terrain we have in alabama.

[Minkness]

Pick them up? What do you do? Rent them?

What things do you hunt in AL?

[eminart]

Pick them up? What do you do? Rent them?

What things do you hunt in AL?

No, I said "pick back up", meaning I'll get a new hawk, and restart my falconry. This particular season started off poorly (had a hawk die from complications with a broken leg), and didn't get much better, so I'm taking a short break. As far as what I hunt, with the red tails, I hunt rabbits and squirrels. Other birds can be used to hunt various other things (mostly birds) but the majority of falconers in the southeast focus on rabbits and squirrels, and that's my preference as well.

[eminart]

Neither are great photos, but I was looking at how much Loki has grown in the less than six months I've had him. So, I put this comparison together.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/GrowthComparison_zpsd1c0b153.jpg

[EL Ziggy]

Wow Eminart, Loki's getting big and looking great as always!

[sharthun]

Loki is looking awesome!

[KavomatovlHes]

I wanted to point it out to him, but I kept hoping hed catch it himself if hes a teacher when he reviewed his work.

[eminart]

Wow Eminart, Loki's getting big and looking great as always!

Loki is looking awesome!

Thanks, guys!

I wanted to point it out to him, but I kept hoping hed catch it himself if hes a teacher when he reviewed his work.

WUT?

[ManSlaughter33]

I wanted to point it out to him, but I kept hoping hed catch it himself if hes a teacher when he reviewed his work.
Huh? If you're talking about the dates.. I counted 6 months lol

[eminart]

If you read all his posts, there's something very strange going on. It's almost like he's posting on another forum, but his replies are landing here.

[marvelfreak]

If you read all his posts, there's something very strange going on. It's almost like he's posting on another forum, but his replies are landing here.
First Loki is looks awesome.

Second nothing KavomatovlHes post makes any since.

[eminart]

Loki and a snack.

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[EL Ziggy]

I really anticipate and enjoy your posts on Loki. What a majestic animal he is eminart. You're right that's just a snack for that beast. Was that a mouse he devoured? Looks like he could smash a few of those. :)

[eminart]

I really anticipate and enjoy your posts on Loki. What a majestic animal he is eminart. You're right that's just a snack for that beast. Was that a mouse he devoured? Looks like he could smash a few of those. :)


He just switched from mice to rat pups. He generally eats one every two days, except around shedding time. He gets finicky then. I've experimented with feeding him two items every three or four days, but he seems to eat best on the one item every two or three day schedule.

[sharthun]

Loki is looking awesome as usual!

[ks1020]

Wow, beautiful snake.

[eminart]

Thanks, you guys. He's doing well but eating me out of house and home. ;)

[IW17]

How's his activity level? Is he on the move or stay hidden?

[eminart]

How's his activity level? Is he on the move or stay hidden?

He spends most of his time in his flower pot, with his head stuck out the opening. But, when he starts to get hungry, he's out cruising his cage a lot more. I feed him constantly though, because he came to me pretty small for his age. I've been trying to ensure he'll make it to full indigo size. So, he rarely has a chance to really get hungry before I stick more food in his face. I expect him to be a lot more active once he goes on his "adult rations". But even now, it's easy to see that he's a diurnal snake.

[IW17]

Very cool. One day I will have one of my own.

[eminart]

Playing with my macro lens.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0015_zpsrdj0e2qg.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/3-7-15%20011_zpsjlxzcnmn.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/3-7-15%20008_zpsmx1vqmcj.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/3-7-15%20006_zpsftrpiftq.jpg

[EL Ziggy]

Wow is all I can say Em!

[eminart]

Thanks, ziggy.

Just a quick feeding video from today.

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[EL Ziggy]

He's not shy at all come feeding time is he? I'm Loki's biggest fan! :)

[eminart]

Loki huffing and puffing at dinner time.

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[EL Ziggy]

He's growing big time and looking great as always.

[sharthun]

Looking awesome!!

[eminart]

Thanks again, guys. When I get bored this time of year, I usually turn to video and photos. So, just humor my constant posts.

He's growing big time and looking great as always.

He definitely is starting to put on some size. Yesterday he was 46" and 634g. IF he keeps growing at this rate, he'll be around 6' this time next year.

[eminart]

Goofing around on feeding day.

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[sharthun]

Goofing around on feeding day.

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Cool snake and video!

[Albert Clark]

QUOTE=eminart;956546]Thanks again, guys. When I get bored this time of year, I usually turn to video and photos. So, just humor my constant posts.



He definitely is starting to put on some size. Yesterday he was 46" and 634g. IF he keeps growing at this rate, he'll be around 6' this time next year.[/QUOTE]

Terrific looking reptile! Thanks for all the updates and videos. You are doing a great job with him. :blink:

[EL Ziggy]

Nice video eminart. I liked the soundtrack too. :)

[eminart]

Took Loki out for a stroll today.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0054_zpsodbcainl.jpg

[EL Ziggy]

Great shot!

[sharthun]

Took Loki out for a stroll today.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0054_zpsodbcainl.jpg

Awesome shot!!

[EL Ziggy]

The reflection in his eye is pretty cool. :)

[eminart]

The reflection in his eye is pretty cool. :)


Haha, yes, all my efforts to stay out of photographs are thwarted by reflections in Loki's eyes.

[MDT]

so, eminart.....i didn't read the entire thread, but i have a question...is the poo really as bad as i've read about?

years ago, i had a BTC, that was a prolific poo-er. i was in like 6th or 7th grade at the time. it was an import, and was heavily parasitized. the vet care back then was very "limited" at best. dosing this guy w anti-helminthics was a best-guess scenario. poor thing ended up dying about 6 weeks after i got him from local pet store (this was back in the late 70's btw)...

anyway, i never really knew if his poo issues were parasite related (i'm sure to a degree?) or also just part of the Drymarchon metabolism that you read about....

just wondering. thanks for any info...

[eminart]

so, eminart.....i didn't read the entire thread, but i have a question...is the poo really as bad as i've read about?

years ago, i had a BTC, that was a prolific poo-er. i was in like 6th or 7th grade at the time. it was an import, and was heavily parasitized. the vet care back then was very "limited" at best. dosing this guy w anti-helminthics was a best-guess scenario. poor thing ended up dying about 6 weeks after i got him from local pet store (this was back in the late 70's btw)...

anyway, i never really knew if his poo issues were parasite related (i'm sure to a degree?) or also just part of the Drymarchon metabolism that you read about....

just wondering. thanks for any info...


It's really not that bad, it just comes a lot more often than it does with other snakes. Right now, Loki is eating a weanling rat every 3 days. Three days after I feed him, like clockwork, he comes out in the afternoon/early evening, poops, and expects another meal. I know when it's coming, so it gets cleaned up quickly.

Also, most people keep them on newspaper. I think that probably adds to the messiness, as they cruise around and smear poop everywhere. I use sanichips. There's very little mess. Just scoop out the area and it's good to go.

But, so far, I've fed him 95% rodents. I've heard the poop is worse with some other things (fish, snakes, frogs, etc). I really do want to vary his diet more, so that might affect things a bit. I'm working on a plan to get some fish, snakes, and maybe some frog legs and lizards to feed him.

The internal parasites in your BTC's probably had a lot to do with their smelly poop. Any time one of my hawks has a load of worms, the poop gets pretty rank.

[MDT]

Cool...thanks!!! I would really like to get another BTC (or pair), but my experience is really w Morelia....Just trying to get my ducks in a row.

[eminart]

Cool...thanks!!! I would really like to get another BTC (or pair), but my experience is really w Morelia....Just trying to get my ducks in a row.


I thought about getting a pair of BTC's to breed as well. I think they're awesome-looking snakes. And they're not nearly as costly as indigos, so buying two is a bit more feasible. My thing is just that these snakes require fairly large enclosures, and I don't have much room. Oh, and a lot of food. I'm going to have to get a second job to feed Loki. ;)

[eminart]

The color version of the B&W photo I posted for the May contest.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/5-19-15%20050C_zpsieory6ai.jpg

[EL Ziggy]

I'm trying not to drool over here! To me there's no snake that's more majestic than an Eastern Indigo. Loki is a beautiful example Em.

[eminart]

I'm trying not to drool over here! To me there's no snake that's more majestic than an Eastern Indigo. Loki is a beautiful example Em.

Thanks, Ziggy! I like him too. ;)

[RAD House]

Does he have brown markings on him or is that just the reflection?

[eminart]

Does he have brown markings on him or is that just the reflection?


He has the reddish face, and throat, along with the first 1/3 of his underbelly. Anything else you see is probably a reflection or something.

[SnoopySnake]

He's beautiful, I'd love to have one some day. Great pictures.

[Albert Clark]

Absolutely amazing animal. Congratulations em.

[EL Ziggy]

Alright Em, tell me this..how do you get Loki to stay still for your shots? The only time I can get a still picture is when I lift their hide a day or two after feeding them.

[eminart]

Alright Em, tell me this..how do you get Loki to stay still for your shots? The only time I can get a still picture is when I lift their hide a day or two after feeding them.


LOL. I take about 100 shots and throw away the 99 where he didn't cooperate.

With the last photo I posted, I put his hide down and put him in it. I got ready and mostly focused, then had my daughter lift the hide off. That particular time, he sat still long enough to get several photos.

But, generally, it's the shotgun approach.

[eminart]

I started building Loki's adult enclosure. Plans are for it to be full bioactive. Inside dimensions are 6'x2'x33.5". Several inches of the depth will be substrate. I have to wait a bit now to buy the epoxy sealer for the inside and and the glass doors. I'm also waiting to install the top and some trim until I've settled on exactly how I'm going to heat and light it. So, it's a long way from finished, but I'm mostly just waiting on money.

Anyway, I just had Loki out and thought I'd see how well he fits into it. He still has plenty of room to grow.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsi1zifgid.jpg

[EL Ziggy]

I'm sure you'll do a great job Em and I look forward to the progression thread. :)

[grantlapaz]

Totally gorgeous snake! Spent an hour looking through this thread and your youtube channel, and all I can say is WOW. :Wow: Two thumbs up, I cant wait to see more

[eminart]

Totally gorgeous snake! Spent an hour looking through this thread and your youtube channel, and all I can say is WOW. :Wow: Two thumbs up, I cant wait to see more


Thanks, man. I've been focused on getting his new enclosure built so I haven't done any video or anything lately. I'm at a stoppage waiting on more funds now though, so I'll probably fool around with the camera a bit.

[eminart]

Loki was excited about the Belmont Stakes today and needed to get out some pent up energy. So, I let me race around the back yard a bit.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0019_zpsznhzknmr.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0041_zpsdk676wna.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0134_zps1pwmzgsm.jpg

[Wingbeats]

Loki is a beautiful snake! I just scrolled through all of these posts. How big do Eastern Indigos get?

Also neat that you are a falconer. I am a biologist who works at The Peregrine Fund, so I'm around a lot of falconers and their birds :) I'm not the only bird nerd here!

[EL Ziggy]

Loki is stretching out there Em and looking amazing as always. That last shot is awesome!

[eminart]

Loki is a beautiful snake! I just scrolled through all of these posts. How big do Eastern Indigos get?

Also neat that you are a falconer. I am a biologist who works at The Peregrine Fund, so I'm around a lot of falconers and their birds :) I'm not the only bird nerd here!

They can get 8.5'+. Yeah, I've noticed your kestrel avatar and have meant to ask you what kind of bird person you were. The peregrine fund is a great organization.

[malgus]

The name loki really suits him

[Wingbeats]

They can get 8.5'+. Yeah, I've noticed your kestrel avatar and have meant to ask you what kind of bird person you were. The peregrine fund is a great organization.

Awesome! That sounds like my kind of Colubrid. I'd love to see one in real life.

And yup, I research American Kestrels (investigating why they are declining), so I figured my kestrel avatar would be fitting until I get a avatar-worthy shot of my snake.

Thanks for sharing :)

[TheLastBaron]

I have always wanted an Indigo man. When I was 13 I caught one by smoking it out of a hollow tree (I would never do this now but I was a kid desperate to capture this particular snake). My friends mother was picking us up from his grandfathers ranch, 5 hours or so from where I lived. She flat refused to allow the snake into her vehicle and I was forced to release the snake I had worked so hard to capture! I still haven't ever seen another one in the wild, so I'll break down and buy one eventually.

[Albert Clark]

Yeah, I think I will have to try and own one once I make my move to California! That is a snake to die for. Gotta have a indigo soon.

[eminart]

They're awesome snakes, but quite a bit different from your average snake when it comes to feeding and cleaning.

The wife snapped our photo this morning. As you can see, he's come a long way since last August.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/IMG_1660_zpscl9nxeha.jpg

[Albert Clark]

Very nice em! He truly is amazing. Congrats again.

[Sylphie]

Wow, he's sooo beautiful... I'm really curious how big will he be in future.

And out of curiosity what do you have in mind while saying that indigos are different from average snakes when it comes to feeding and cleaning?

All the best for you and Loki!

[eminart]

Wow, he's sooo beautiful... I'm really curious how big will he be in future.

And out of curiosity what do you have in mind while saying that indigos are different from average snakes when it comes to feeding and cleaning?

All the best for you and Loki!


Males can reach 8.5 feet. I think 7-8 feet is average for a male.

As far as being different, they eat a lot more often and just a lot more in general. They aren't ambush predators like many snakes. They're diurnal and actively hunt their food. So, they have a very high metabolism. They also can't unhinge their jaws like most snakes, which means they generally eat smaller prey items, but more of them. They're opportunistic feeders and will eat, literally, ANYTHING they can overpower. But, in the wild, other snakes are a very large part of their diet, which is likely the reason they can't unhinge their jaws - snakes are easy to swallow. But, they'll eat rodents, fish, frogs, lizards, small turtles, eggs, birds, snakes, and even carrion sometimes. One indigo was found eating meat off of a dead shark head on a beach.

I feed my boy about every 3 days. He gets finicky about food around shedding time, which is once a month right now, but otherwise, he pretty much always eats. The past couple of days, he refused a frog leg, but I don't think he recognizes the smell as food yet. He did eat one in the past though.

So, anyway, with all that food going in, there's plenty coming out the other end. And, it tends to be on the runny and nasty side. They're very active, as I said, which means they're out crawling around a lot after every one of those poops, and they can make quite a mess. I've found that sanichips cut down on this for me, but most people use newspaper. I can only imagine how they must smear the poop around on that. Eeeesh.

Anyway, that's what I meant when I said they were different.

You can see his feeding record here: iHerp : Online Reptile Software, Husbandry, Community, Tracking, Breeding, Snakes, and More! (http://iherp.com/HerpTrack/Tracking/Default.aspx?AnimalID=156864) As you can see, they can put away some food. One guy on my drymarchon FB group just posted that in the past two weeks, his female has eaten 15 mice, 1 small rat, and 2 medium quail.

[EL Ziggy]

Wow Em, that's a pretty active feeding schedule. I feel for you brother. That's as many prey items as my 4 snakes eat in 2 week$. :)

[Sylphie]

Wow, they are bigger "feeding machines" than Russians... My Russian would eat antyhing too, but only once in a week (I know that she'll be happy to eat more often, but in their case it will be overfeeding). And it's really interesting that they can eat turtles and fish too.

And yeah, I can imagine the mess that they can create... but still what is not done out of love? :D

And like EL-Ziggy, I feel for you, that's a lot of eaten money, haha! :D

[eminart]

He's definitely a little on the expensive side to feed, but I love every minute of it. :D

[Wingbeats]

Huh, neat. It's interesting to see the variances in biology in snakes. Eastern Indigos are beauuutifulll, but definitely a little too much work for me :)

[eminart]

Finally, after tons of work and lots of time, I moved Loki into his adult enclosure. Everything was finally ready today. I was just waiting for Loki to shed, which he got around to doing this evening. Shortly thereafter, I introduced him to his new home.

Here's a lame video commemorating the event.

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[eminart]

And, for my 501st post to this site... a couple more Loki photos. LOL. It's all I bring to the table. Just cell phone photos through the glass. He seems to be enjoying his new home though.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/IMG_10101_zpsbsb7tp05.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/IMG_10161_zpsjb1yyw4p.jpg

[SnoopySnake]

Loki looks awesome in there :)

[havoc_vulture]

Loki look happy

[EL Ziggy]

Very nice video Em. The enclosure looks great. I'm sure Loki loves it. What snake wouldn't? ;)

[sirtalis]

Is it bioactive? Very cool snake, ive always wanted to see one if these in the wild, one of my friends caught a six footer a few months back :) he's an older guy, but he said when he was a kid they could rise out of the grass and look a man in the face, he now says that since the area we live in is more developed they die before they reach full size lol i personally saw the six footer but im going to take the rest of his story with a grain of salt :p

[eminart]

Is it bioactive? Very cool snake, ive always wanted to see one if these in the wild, one of my friends caught a six footer a few months back :) he's an older guy, but he said when he was a kid they could rise out of the grass and look a man in the face, he now says that since the area we live in is more developed they die before they reach full size lol i personally saw the six footer but im going to take the rest of his story with a grain of salt :p


Yes, it's bioactive. I'd also love to see one in the wild. I was actually supposed to go down this past february and tag along and help with survey in the Conecuh National Forest in southern AL, where they've been reintroduced. But, the weather was bad that weekend, and it's a pretty long drive for me, so I opted out. They did find one of the tagged snakes, but just the one. I may try to go on the next one.

But yeah, looking a man in the face, might be a bit of a stretch. But, I'm sure an 8+ footer in the wild would be pretty impressive, nonetheless.

[sirtalis]

Hmmmm, i was thinking about it a bit and say a rather short person 4ish feet is walking through a field and happens to disturb a 8.5 footer? Maybe a surprised indigo could rear up 3-4 feet?

[sirtalis]

Have you ever fed him avian prey? I didnt read all 10 pages lol. I guess that could add some variety to his diet, i fed my geckos the same thing daily for about a year and eventually they stopped eating superworms. Ive heard that birds can cause runny feces though lol

[eminart]

Have you ever fed him avian prey? I didnt read all 10 pages lol. I guess that could add some variety to his diet, i fed my geckos the same thing daily for about a year and eventually they stopped eating superworms. Ive heard that birds can cause runny feces though lol

I haven't fed him any birds yet, but I have quail and starlings in the freezer for him. The quail are a bit big for him at this point, and I was waiting for the starlings to be frozen for at least a month, to help kill off parasites. They should be ready now though. So far, he's eaten rodents, snakes, fish, frog legs, and chicken. He seems to prefer the rodents, snakes, and fish.

[Jrich]

Amazing snake and set up you've built for him.

[eminart]

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0018_zps6mwxet2n.jpg

[sirtalis]

How long does his feces take to get broken down, or do you just spot clean? My geckos feces is gone within 48 hrs, but considering your guy could eat my guys, im guessing it takes much longer?

[eminart]

How long does his feces take to get broken down, or do you just spot clean? My geckos feces is gone within 48 hrs, but considering your guy could eat my guys, im guessing it takes much longer?

He just moved into the Bioactive enclosure this week, so I'm not sure. But, yes, I spot clean to reduce the load.

[eminart]

I haven't posted anything about Loki in a while, so I thought I'd share a video I made of feeding time yesterday. It's kind of long, and not too exciting, but I love him. (Please overlook the missing preposition in the text. I should have proofread.)

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[Sylphie]

Hahaha I love how excited he was and that he tied himself in a knot while looking where is the "start" point of this food, haha! :D Great video and amazing snake, shame that they are so rare and pricey.

[daisymaisy]

hah, that was great! I had no idea he would eat a rattlesnake like that. Good that the rattler didn't go to waste. Loki seemed really excited, but wasn't sure how the heck he was going to eat it. I just loved him dragging it off into his lair. Very happy snake and wonderful enclosure habitat!

[eminart]

Thanks, Sylphie and Daisy. Yeah, he eats snakes fairly often, but he still hasn't mastered finding the head.

[EL Ziggy]

Loki is one of my favorite snakes on the forum Em. Where do you usually get the feeder snakes for him?

[eminart]

Loki is one of my favorite snakes on the forum Em. Where do you usually get the feeder snakes for him?


Thanks. They're (unfortunately) road killed snakes. I freeze them for a few weeks to kill off parasites.

[Humble308]

Loki looks awesome, a very impressive colubrid in size. How's the temperament with indigo's?

[Bandit]

Amazing snake! I've always wanted an Indigo. And very cool video!

[eminart]

How's the temperament with indigo's?

They're basically like a king cobra that doesn't bite. Mine was a little shy when he was small. He still huffs sometimes when I pick him up, or if he's generally displeased or excited about something. He spends most of his time in his burrow, but often has his head or up to half his body out, watching. He seems to spend more and more time out cruising, or just basking, the older he gets.

[Albert Clark]

Always amazing indigo! He looks great em. You have done a masterful job with him. Wish I had a indigo in my collection and maybe someday I will. Thanks for a refreshing look at his progress.

[eminart]

Thanks, Albert!

[eminart]

It's been a long time since I've added any photos. Loki shed today, so I took him outside and let him explore the grass a bit.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0068_zpsbjke83ip.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0057_zps3hl2o3xs.jpg

[zactay22]

Very nice, I hope to add a indigo this summer.

[eminart]

Very nice, I hope to add a indigo this summer.


Thanks! But, if you're in FL, as your profile says, I don't think you'll have much luck getting a permit for an eastern indigo, unless you're involved in their conservation in some way.

[EL Ziggy]

He ALWAYS looks so majestic. :)

[zactay22]

I know, I'm probably going with Texas because rubidus is expensive

[eminart]

I know, I'm probably going with Texas because rubidus is expensive

Ah, I see. They're all very similar and awesome snakes. Hope you get one.

[zactay22]

Living in central Florida where they used to be so common until the housing boom. When I was 12 I saw fairly large one at a fish farm. After the housing boom indigo, eastern diamond backs, and gopher tortoises were reduced to such small numbers that the habitat indigos need disappeared.

[eminart]

Loki sat still for a minute.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0057_zpstnpbgyg5.jpg

[Humble308]

Such an impressive looking snake!

[Pareeeee]

I don't get tired of seeing photos of your Indigo. Such a beautiful snake. How big is he now?

[EL Ziggy]

>>>Walking back from the edge of jealousy. Loki is my forum favorite snake Em. You're doing a great job with him too.

[eminart]

Thanks, you guys. I have a snake and a camera and I get bored sometimes.

How big is he now?

I think he's right around 5 1/2 feet. I need to measure him. He seems to have gone through a growth spurt, despite not eating particularly well the past few weeks.

[MM1]

Loki sat still for a minute.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0057_zpstnpbgyg5.jpg

That is a fine looking serpent. Looks like he owns the place.

[eminart]

I thawed some food for Loki, and on a whim, I decided to see if he'd eat it outside. He's usually a little timid about eating, especially for a drymarchon, but, surprisingly, he did eat.

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[EL Ziggy]

Loki looks awesome as always Em. He's getting big now too. How many mice do you offer him per feeding? He was inhaling those things once he got going.

[eminart]

Lately, I've been giving him a couple of mice every few days. His appetite seems to be picking up though, so I might try more next feeding. I've tried all sorts of food and feeding regimes. He's finicky for an indigo.

[EL Ziggy]

I guess he doesn't like rats :(.

[eminart]

Sometimes he does. I started buying all mice a couple of months ago when he was refusing a lot of meals. If he doesn't eat them, we have more snakes that I can give them to.

[Andy_G]

Loki is very nice! Do you ever give him snakes to chow on?

[eminart]

I've given him snakes, various birds, fish, frog legs, and chicken breast.

[eminart]

And one more, just because I get bored.

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[Albert Clark]

Wow! He will always be the number 1 em.

[eminart]

Opaque Loki. Cell phone quality photo.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/image_zpsu4cmhnko.jpeg

[Albert Clark]

I love this thread and Loki too! Hey em, have you thought about breeding him? Also have you seen those red headed eastern indigos?

[eminart]

Thanks, Albert! Yes, I've thought about getting a female to breed. Space and money are holding me back. That, and finding an unrelated mate in the tiny captive gene pool.

I've seen some that have a lot more red than Loki. I think the ones I saw were from European breeders. Personally, I like wild-type red phase, or the "blacks" most.

[Albert Clark]

Thanks, Albert! Yes, I've thought about getting a female to breed. Space and money are holding me back. That, and finding an unrelated mate in the tiny captive gene pool.

I've seen some that have a lot more red than Loki. I think the ones I saw were from European breeders. Personally, I like wild-type red phase, or the "blacks" most.

Someone in the states was advertising the red head eastern indigos on fauna class. Yeah I know you are space limited and so am i. I am going to double check that ad and make sure fauna is where I saw it.

[eminart]

As I stated in another thread, we just bought a new house and moved. I have my own reptile room, which is just a spare bedroom upstairs. However, after measuring and thinking about weight in an upstairs bedroom, I decided (with my wonderful wife's approval) to put Loki's enclosure downstairs in the living room. I was afraid the weight of it would cause problems upstairs, plus, it would have been nearly impossible to get up the stairs.

But, anyway, it's all set up now, and somewhat improved, I think, with the addition of the piece of driftwood. The entrance to Loki's lair is a bit more hidden now by some pants and rocks. But, it still leads to the tub in the cabinet below.

I'll post photos of my reptile room, if I ever finish getting it set up.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0003_zpswtnbwwsp.jpg

[JellyBean]

You did such an amazing job with Loki's home. I really LOVE the Lair with the hidden tub. BRAVO!! :D :D

[SWDK]

His enclosure looks awesome! I can't wait to get my indigo next Saturday. I'm getting a Texas Indigo, but hope to get an Eastern someday. The guy I'm getting it from breeds Easterns as well so I'll talk to him about the permit and legalities.

[toddnbecka]

Good looking setup. are the palm trees real? What sort of lighting is in there?

[eminart]

His enclosure looks awesome! I can't wait to get my indigo next Saturday. I'm getting a Texas Indigo, but hope to get an Eastern someday. The guy I'm getting it from breeds Easterns as well so I'll talk to him about the permit and legalities.

That's awesome! Who are you getting it from?

[eminart]

Good looking setup. are the palm trees real? What sort of lighting is in there?

Thanks. Yes, it's all real. I'm still experimenting to find some sort of grass or other ground cover that will live more than a few weeks.

The light was made by me from LED strip lighting.

[SWDK]

That's awesome! Who are you getting it from?

The breeder is Steve Binning here in Springfield, PA. He's just under a 2hr drive from me so I'll be picking it up rather than shipping.

[EL Ziggy]

Great job on Loki's enclosure Em. He's my forum fave :). Where did you find that gorgeous driftwood?

[sharthun]

Beautiful snake and enclosure!!!! :)

[Tsubaki]

Thanks. Yes, it's all real. I'm still experimenting to find some sort of grass or other ground cover that will live more than a few weeks.

The light was made by me from LED strip lighting.

Maybe Ivy or some weeds? (I once used bird weed mix seed and that covered quickly and looked very cool)

[eminart]

Great job on Loki's enclosure Em. He's my forum fave :). Where did you find that gorgeous driftwood?

The wife collected it from a creek near our old house. She had it in her flowers outside and was going to leave it when we were moving. I claimed it for my own and tossed it on the uhaul.

[eminart]

Maybe Ivy or some weeds? (I once used bird weed mix seed and that covered quickly and looked very cool)


I'm trying something ivy-like right now. Our new house has a couple of different types of ground cover in some shaded areas. I cut a few springs and planted them in the enclosure. We'll see how it goes.

[sirtalis]

Gah dang that is one good looking snake (and enclosure I may add)

[eminart]

Loki was out of his tub for dinner yesterday, so I got some video.

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[SWDK]

Very nice to see some video action. Loki is a great looking snake. I like the red throat morph. It adds just enough subtle color. Can't wait to get an Eastern next year. I'll have to make due with my Texas version until then.

[daisymaisy]

I love the video! My white's tree frog did as well, at least the music - he started croaking loudly in response. I can picture captions like for a silent movie. "Look! A rat!" lol.

Loki is just gorgeous. I was expecting him to hit the rat and coil around it, but they don't constrict as much as say, a corn snake from the looks of it?

[eminart]

I'll have to make due with my Texas version until then.

Thanks! And...

The Texas version certainly isn't "making do". I've seen some gorgeous ones, and other than the color differences, they're pretty much the same snake as an eastern.

I was expecting him to hit the rat and coil around it, but they don't constrict as much as say, a corn snake from the looks of it?

Thank you! No, the snakes of the Drymarchon genus aren't constrictors. That semi-coil that you saw in the video was actually Loki using his body to pin the rat to the ground while he chewed on it and swallowed it. I cut out the part were he dragged it around, snagged it on something, eviscerating it, then nearly ripped the rat in half before swallowing it backwards. They just overpower their prey.

[Albert Clark]

Thanks em!! Loki has matured into the amazing indigo he was meant to be. It's always a joy to see him.

[eminart]

Thanks em!! Loki has matured into the amazing indigo he was meant to be. It's always a joy to see him.



Thanks, Albert! He is, by far, my favorite reptile ever.

[SWDK]

[QUOTE

Thank you! No, the snakes of the Drymarchon genus aren't constrictors. That semi-coil that you saw in the video was actually Loki using his body to pin the rat to the ground while he chewed on it and swallowed it. I cut out the part were he dragged it around, snagged it on something, eviscerating it, then nearly ripped the rat in half before swallowing it backwards. They just overpower their prey.[/QUOTE]

Drymarchons definitely thrash their prey around. Fed my YT Cribo yesterday and it ripped the head right off a chick. I'm always on guard when feeding her bc she's so crazy.

[EL Ziggy]

Loki is looking as amazing as ever Em. He definitely chows down.

[eminart]

Loki doing his best green mamba impression.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/eminart/Herps/Indigo/DSC_0036_zpsa6if1tl9.jpg

[Minkness]

Oh man, that is a NICE photo! And of course the subject matter just makes it amazing!

Do you handle him much?

[eminart]

I don't handle him a lot, but I get him out once in a while.

[Minkness]

How is he when handled? Chill or squirrelly?

[eminart]

He's usually moving, but I wouldn't call him squirrelly. He's not like a milk snake trying to get away. He just moves to go places.

[eminart]

It's been a while since I updated the Loki thread. Not great photos, but they're what I snapped a couple of days ago.

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[dannybgoode]

Properly nice looking snake that eminart. Nice to seen something different-Indigos over here in the UK are almost unheard of.

[whistlepig]

Great looking snake. How big is he now?

[EL Ziggy]

Loki is such a magnificent and majestic creature Em. The Eastern Indigo and Albino Olive Python are the holy grail of snakes to me.

[eminart]

Thanks for the compliments! He really is my pride and joy.

How big is he now?

It has been a while since I measured, but I think he's right around 6 ft. His growth has really slowed down now. Unfortunately, I think he's a little on the small side for his age. He's 3 1/2 years old now. He might slowly creep past the 7 ft mark, but I don't think he's ever going to be the 8 footer I'd hoped. But, that's ok, he's still awesome.

[whistlepig]

Unfortunately, I think he's a little on the small side for his age. He's 3 1/2 years old now. He might slowly creep past the 7 ft mark, but I don't think he's ever going to be the 8 footer I'd hoped. But, that's ok, he's still awesome.

He is still awesome. If I've read right, it seems he's always been small for his age since you got him. Just curious, do you know anything about his parents and whether they were smaller than normal for their age? Wondering how much genetics vs feeding plays into it.

[dannybgoode]

He is still awesome. If I've read right, it seems he's always been small for his age since you got him. Just curious, do you know anything about his parents and whether they were smaller than normal for their age? Wondering how much genetics vs feeding plays into it.

Unless the animal is grossly over or underfed then feeding regime plays very little part v genetics...

[eminart]

He is still awesome. If I've read right, it seems he's always been small for his age since you got him. Just curious, do you know anything about his parents and whether they were smaller than normal for their age? Wondering how much genetics vs feeding plays into it.


Yes, when I got him, he was almost a year old. He'd apparently been "maintenance" fed since hatching and was very small for his age. He's also always been sort of a picky eater for a drymarchon, so maybe that had something to do with it. I did a lot of reading and thinking, and I don't know if a snake that gets off to a slow start during the normal growing years will ever catch up or not. There doesn't seem to be a lot of info on that.

No, I don't know much about his parents. But, I do know there is entirely too much inbreeding with captive eastern indigos. And that can stunt size. There just aren't enough unrelated snakes in captivity. For that reason, I may not ever have another eastern. If I do, it will be from the best cross I can find.

[saturnascends]

I'm way late to the party, but Loki is amazing!! Gotta love those cute colubrid faces! Maybe such a bad *** snake wouldn't want to be called cute...but I think he is :)

[eminart]

I had Loki out doing some sunbathing today.

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[whistlepig]

Awesome. The red on his face really comes out in the sunlight.

[Albert Clark]

IMPECCABLE! What a gladiator in the reptile world. Grats.

[eminart]

A good example of how Drymarchon snakes overpower their prey.

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[daisymaisy]

Loki is looking great! It's funny how some snakes constrict and other species don't. He's powerful enough to overcome prey by shaking it that way I suppose (even when it doesn't "need" it). Anyway, always glad to see Loki - really a magnificent animal.

[eminart]

Just another Loki feeding video.

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[eminart]

My video had a typo that was driving me insane, so I deleted and uploaded it again.

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[Scubadiver59]

Snakes can't spell...so why bother?! :rolleyes:

My video had a typo that was driving me insane, so I deleted and uploaded it again

[dannybgoode]

Do love Loki - stunning snake. I've actually found I think a breeder of eastern indigos here in the UK. There's a 3 year waiting list I believe! I may just get my name down though.

[jjhill001]

Please stop having such a cool snake, please send him to me!

[EL Ziggy]

Loki is a true king of the forum Em.

[eminart]

Thanks, everyone!

Snakes can't spell...so why bother?! :rolleyes:


Well, they'll never learn if we keep misspelling words around them.

[dave himself]

Why can't I see any of your pics mate:(

[eminart]

Why can't I see any of your pics mate:(

I think a lot of the photos in this thread were hosted on Photobucket. They've moved to some sort of subscription service recently, and screwed up photo threads all over the internet. That's probably why you can't see the photos. I won't be putting anything new on there.

[dave himself]

I think a lot of the photos in this thread were hosted on Photobucket. They've moved to some sort of subscription service recently, and screwed up photo threads all over the internet. That's probably why you can't see the photos. I won't be putting anything new on there.

I haven't used them from they changed the app and ruined it with all the adds :mad. I'll look forward to when I can pics mate ;)

[eminart]

Hopefully flickr will continue to work...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4321/35068185044_5742778e82_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VqRBE5)Eastern Indigo (https://flic.kr/p/VqRBE5) by Scott Wright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/eminart/), on Flickr

[dave himself]

Mate he's absolutely beautiful :Wow:

[eminart]

Feeding day for Loki.

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[SerpentineDream]

Ooooo, playing with fire at the end there. :D

He's got an appetite, that's for sure.

[Scubadiver59]

Scaredy cat! Removing your fingers too early at the end!! All it wanted to do is give you a love kiss/bite! :rolleyes:

I did the same thing to my 4'6" Albino King, but I moved my fingers before she struck and she hit the lower glass to her ExoTerra cage.

Then last night, I was feeding chicks to my larger charges, in the dark no less (though I was using a pen flashlight for a little illumination), and when I opened the Carpet's cage, he executed a ViperKeeper "snake lunge/strike" outtake, and lunged about 18" out the door and almost got me! Luckily I jumped out of the way in time; so, I put the light on the chick, which it instantly hit, and I closed him up before he had another go. Silly me!!


Feeding day for Loki

[eminart]

Haha, yeah, I was just curious if he'd eat more. Normally, one rat is all he'll eat. I got the feeling he was still in eating mode. I started wiggling my fingers, but I was looking down trying to get my camera focus when he started toward me. Startled me a little. I have no desire to take a feeding bite from him.