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Obsidian_Dragon
07-13-14, 03:15 PM
So I've only had this MBK hatchling as of a week since Friday, so I don't know what is "normal" behavior or not.

For the first several days he was relatively active--I'd catch him out and about, etc. Fed on Tuesday, was fine.

Wednesday, I didn't spot him at all (he's in another room, so I spot check). Ditto Thursday. Friday he peeked his nose out and I dug him out to handle him briefly, then put him back. Saturday and so far today...haven't even seen him stick his nose out. I also used to sometimes see him curled up in one of his hides--as of Wednesday, that is no longer the case. He seems to ONLY be hiding out in the substrate.

He has 4 hides--one warm, one cool, two hanging out in the middle. Temps are currently 85 on the warm side, 71 on the cool end. Humidity is about 50 right now. It did drop low the other day, but I fixed it.

Has he maybe just settled down and decided to hide in the substrate most of the time? I see signs of his moving about but never see him anymore. Could he be sick? Should I leave him alone or try to find him? Wait until feeding time and see if he resurfaces to eat?

I've thought about removing some of the substrate (it's pretty deep) and making it so I don't have to have a mining expedition if I want to find out where he is.

Kera
07-13-14, 03:54 PM
I think he's okay, these snakes often burrow like that. :)

EL Ziggy
07-13-14, 05:46 PM
Doesn't sound too unusual. My MBK was probably my most shy snake. I hardly ever saw her for the first few months I had her. She's a lot more active now that she's larger and older. Has your snake eaten recently? Could he be getting ready to shed? They're really reclusive during those times.

franks
07-13-14, 06:13 PM
Babies hide. He is acting pretty normal. Leave the substrate deep, he likes it and it actually will increase the likelihood that he will move around. Your snake may just be out roaming at night, or he may be watching you. I know it doesn't seem like it, but he knows when you are in the room. Give him time to get used to you and grow into himself. Like stated above, the bigger a snake gets the more confident it will generally feel.

LiL Zap
07-13-14, 06:15 PM
Everything sounds okay to me. Even with all the hiding spots in the world, sometimes snakes will choose to burrow in their substrate.

As long as the little guy is eating well, I wouldn't worry. :)

Obsidian_Dragon
07-13-14, 06:23 PM
Okay. I feel better now, and will leave him be. :) It's so hard to know what is normal when you are new to reptiles!

"Dinner" is on Tuesday. I'll thaw it on top of the cage in hopes of enticing him out--but if not, eh, I'll leave it where he can find it.

sharthun
07-13-14, 06:58 PM
Sounds normal to me. :)

drumcrush
07-13-14, 10:41 PM
I agree with everyone else, completley normal. As he gets older, I wouldn't be too surprised if you see him out more:) if mine isn't digesting a meal or in shed, she is typically out most of the time.

nyjon
07-15-14, 10:11 PM
i never see my milk snake lol he even runs from me when i have food lol

some guys are just shy. give him some time and youll get to know him :D

Obsidian_Dragon
07-16-14, 07:54 AM
Well, he never came out for his dinner last night (left the mouse, untouched this morning), and I haven't seen any SURE signs of him in a couple of days--so I think I'm going to go digging for a snake.

I hate to stress him out if he's fine but I'm stressed out.

I don't think my set up is so poor as to have murdered a snake inside two weeks, but it's possible that the initial purchase/move stress induced something from the pet store, I don't know. He ate so readily last week I can't help but regard this as weird.

Hi, my name is Amber and I'm apparently a neurotic first time snake owner. /rolls eyes at self

sharthun
07-16-14, 10:40 AM
Try not to be stressed Amber! :) He may be going into shed. My snakes won't eat in shed but others will. Check to see if his eyes are getting cloudy and skin is turning pale.


Well, he never came out for his dinner last night (left the mouse, untouched this morning), and I haven't seen any SURE signs of him in a couple of days--so I think I'm going to go digging for a snake.

I hate to stress him out if he's fine but I'm stressed out.

I don't think my set up is so poor as to have murdered a snake inside two weeks, but it's possible that the initial purchase/move stress induced something from the pet store, I don't know. He ate so readily last week I can't help but regard this as weird.

Hi, my name is Amber and I'm apparently a neurotic first time snake owner. /rolls eyes at self

Obsidian_Dragon
07-16-14, 08:13 PM
I dug up a very mad little baby who does, indeed, seem to be going into shed.

I got the rattlesnake tail act and cracked up. I feel MUCH better now and will go back to leaving him alone. I whipped up a humid hide with an old margarine tub, so hopefully that'll be a help--if he feels like coming out of the dirt. ;)

sharthun
07-16-14, 10:34 PM
I dug up a very mad little baby who does, indeed, seem to be going into shed.

I got the rattlesnake tail act and cracked up. I feel MUCH better now and will go back to leaving him alone. I whipped up a humid hide with an old margarine tub, so hopefully that'll be a help--if he feels like coming out of the dirt. ;)

Good news! Some snakes can be cranky during shed.

Obsidian_Dragon
07-22-14, 10:00 AM
So it's feeding day again....but I don't know if he's shed or not!

On the other hand, not sure if I WOULD find it. Is it possible the shed skin is somewhere in Noodle's Tunnel Empire, or would the very nature of shedding mean I SHOULD find it out in the open somewhere?

I ask mostly because I hate to waste the mice. :x If he HAS shed I assume he's hungry, but...

sharthun
07-22-14, 10:15 AM
My black milk likes to shed while burrowing through the Aspen. I usually have to dig through the substrate to find his shed skin. Nothing wrong with slowly sifting through the substrate with fingers to search for skin.


So it's feeding day again....but I don't know if he's shed or not!

On the other hand, not sure if I WOULD find it. Is it possible the shed skin is somewhere in Noodle's Tunnel Empire, or would the very nature of shedding mean I SHOULD find it out in the open somewhere?

I ask mostly because I hate to waste the mice. :x If he HAS shed I assume he's hungry, but...

Obsidian_Dragon
07-22-14, 07:26 PM
Well, I went to go sift through the substrate and found the snake right off the bat! So I held him while my husband looked. Either he hasn't shed yet (and is in the clear-eyed stage right beforehand) or my husband sucks at finding baby snake skins. ;)

I figured I'd offer a mouse anyway, in case we missed it or something. He was much different for handling this time around--didn't musk, didn't try to run away so much, and got exploratory after chilling in my hand for a minute or two. Hilariously, although he'd REACH towards my husband, seemingly curious, he'd actually swerve away and back to my hand if we offered him my husband's hand to climb onto.

For a snake that the store employees were AFRAID of, I find him utterly charming. Not living up to his ferocious reputation at all!

Obsidian_Dragon
07-22-14, 07:47 PM
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Have a picture! (Hopefully, that link works.)

sharthun
07-22-14, 07:50 PM
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Have a picture! (Hopefully, that link works.)

Beautiful! Glad he's settling in. MBK's are awesome snakes!

franks
07-22-14, 08:06 PM
He is beautiful. I am obsessed with my MBK now. They are so cool.

Joshchimera
07-22-14, 08:15 PM
You are doing a terrific job on caring for your snake Amber.

Obsidian_Dragon
07-22-14, 08:23 PM
Woot, I poked him out of his Tunnel Empire and he took the pinky.

I'm glad you guys are here to talk me through all of this with my first snake. I'd be a neurotic mess otherwise! Doing the research is one thing, but care sheets don't cover half the silly questions I end up with.

EL Ziggy
07-23-14, 08:14 AM
Woot, I poked him out of his Tunnel Empire and he took the pinky.

I'm glad you guys are here to talk me through all of this with my first snake. I'd be a neurotic mess otherwise! Doing the research is one thing, but care sheets don't cover half the silly questions I end up with.

Congrats on the successful feed Amber. Keep up the good work!

NewSAHSnakeMom
07-31-14, 06:37 PM
I'm new to snakes and a neurotic mess too. I'm slowly getting over a fear of them as well. The people here have been a great help! Beautiful snake!