No eyelids, constant infection. HELP

[xSerpentGoddess]

A friend of mine breeds geckos. She acquired one from a show without eyelids. It constantly has crust on its eyes like it has an infection. It washed right off but it has to be done daily. He is aprox. 3 months. Will this ever subside ?

I have vaguely read about Vitamin A drops for geckos with eyelid issues. Does anyone have any experience with this?

[Wildvaranus]

that sounds dope, pics? besides the infection part...

[jpsteele80]

Anyway you can get pics of that gecko,?

[Pirarucu]

Why would you buy a gecko with no eyelids...? (Well, assuming it's a species that normally has them.) I hope she isn't planning on breeding said animal...

I doubt it will subside. Leopard Geckos, unlike most Geckos, have eyelids to keep their eyes moist and clean instead of licking their eyes. This animal has no way to do so. Honestly I doubt it's living an incredibly happy life, imagine never being able to blink... Although it's not a pleasant option to consider, I would be thinking about having the animal put down.

[xSerpentGoddess]

I can get pictures but it definitely isn't dope. It's a deformity. She got a large lot at a show and I don't know that she noticed it right away. We are thinking about euthanizing it, this post was a last ditch effort to determine the quality of life. I was hoping someone might've experienced this.

[Wildvaranus]

eye drops will make the quality of life alot better try them before u kill it -.-

[shaunyboy]

Why would you buy a gecko with no eyelids...? (Well, assuming it's a species that normally has them.) I hope she isn't planning on breeding said animal...

I doubt it will subside. Leopard Geckos, unlike most Geckos, have eyelids to keep their eyes moist and clean instead of licking their eyes. This animal has no way to do so. Honestly I doubt it's living an incredibly happy life, imagine never being able to blink... Although it's not a pleasant option to consider, I would be thinking about having the animal put down.

^^^^^
i agree mate


i am not having a go at the op...


the first thought i had when reading the title of this thread was.....

personally i would euthanize the Gecko

imo we have a duty of care to provide a good quality of life for the creatures we keep...

having crusty infected eyes that have to be washed on a daily basis imo is NOT a quality life

i'm sorry for being blunt,but we owe it to them to end any suffering in a humane manor


cheers shaun

[Wildvaranus]

Or is it your job as a breeder to keep that animal alive as a pet and provide him the treatment he needs on a daily basis. If you brought a child into the world with no eye lids would you simply euthanize it? of course not so I think you have the responsibility to provide the hygiene for the gecko because you bought it.

[smy_749]

What species of gecko is it? If its not in the family of geckos which contains Leopard geckos (Eublepharidae) than it should not have eyelids, as this is the only family with them as far as I know. (There are other species in this group, though I doubt she would have bought a 'lot' of them, given the prices of them are very, very high).

So assuming its a leopard gecko, she should not have bought it. The breeder should not have sold it. Give it back to him and get a refund. If not, you have to choose between putting it down, or letting it live a miserable life with the need for constant maintenance. Its not the same as a newborn, its a gecko, not your human child, so obviously you are not going to give it the same level of attention.

It goes without saying that it should not be bred.

[shaunyboy]

Or is it your job as a breeder to keep that animal alive as a pet and provide him the treatment he needs on a daily basis. If you brought a child into the world with no eye lids would you simply euthanize it? of course not so I think you have the responsibility to provide the hygiene for the gecko because you bought it.



imo something that has to go through the type of treatment the Gecko would have to go through is not a good quality of life

a child with no eye lids would most likely have skin grafts and reconstructive surgery to cure or at least alleviate the condition


re adult humans
there's been plenty humans who are suffering and have little quality of life,that have chose to euthanize themselves rather that continue to suffer...

the Gecko cannot make that decision,so as keepers we have the responsibility to end any suffering an animal is going through


re human choices
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FEuthana sia_in_Switzerland&ei=feSRU4jpI8ne7Abz5oCAAQ&usg=AFQjCNGAVMegBuh9ufRcpiUjKFvyFJEqHA&bvm=bv.68445247,d.ZGU

personally i think keepers who keep snakes with kinked spines and other deformities,etc are doing the wrong thing

when quality of life is not there,then the best thing is euthanization

i have no problem spending as much money as is needed,if its going to fix the health issue and let the animal have a good life

not long ago i spent around £500 trying to get to the bottom of a lung condition in a snake that was worth only £50

imo keeping animals alive that are suffering due to your human emotion is selfish and wrong.....

it's all about QUALITY of life...!!


cheers shaun

[Wildvaranus]

How can we accurately judge the animals quality of life unless its obviously behaving as though it does not have the will to survive? Plenty of animals that are deformed at birth live completely normal lives and adapt to what god has given them to work with..Is there any word on how the animal is behaving or if its eating and shedding properly? All the information that i have is no eye lids and possibly crusties.. -.-

[shaunyboy]

How can we accurately judge the animals quality of life unless its obviously behaving as though it does not have the will to survive? Plenty of animals that are deformed at birth live completely normal lives and adapt to what god has given them to work with..Is there any word on how the animal is behaving or if its eating and shedding properly? All the information that i have is no eye lids and possibly crusties.. -.-

i would think living with CONSTANT crusty infected eyes,that require treatment every day for it's entire life,would be painful for the animal

an animal in constant pain or suffering imo is not a quality life

i ALWAYS consult a vet and ask his opinion on whether he thinks the animal is suffering or in pain...

my next question to the vet is can we fix the issue

if it cannot be fixed then i euthanize for the sake of the animal...

if it can be fixed,then i pay for the treatment and give the animal a quality life



cheers shaun

[Pirarucu]

eye drops will make the quality of life alot better try them before u kill it -.-No, they won't. Vitamin A eye drops are good for the eye in terms of keeping the retina healthy, but that is not the issue here. The issue is that the animal cannot keep its eyes clean and moist, and unless drops were applied at least every few minutes for the rest of the animal's life, they would not help with that.

[Mikoh4792]

How can we accurately judge the animals quality of life unless its obviously behaving as though it does not have the will to survive? Plenty of animals that are deformed at birth live completely normal lives and adapt to what god has given them to work with..Is there any word on how the animal is behaving or if its eating and shedding properly? All the information that i have is no eye lids and possibly crusties.. -.-

I'm pretty sure it's against the rules to bring god into forum discussion. Besides, I'd have to disagree. A gecko(that is supposed to have eyelids) without eyelids does not adapt to not having eyelids. It just copes with the problems until death. It's nothing to do with god, it's just nature. Deformities are completely natural, not supernatural.