burmese python?

[ilovemysnake]

My fiance is obsessed with them. he wants one so badly. im contemplating on getting him one for his birthday next year. thing is, im terrified about if being around the baby. ive heard horror stories about burms.

basically, do you guys think having a Burmese python is worth it? i mean now that theyre on the lacey act, you can't bring them to another state, so ive heard. and with him being in the military, we might have to move.

[Mark Taylor]

My fiance is obsessed with them. he wants one so badly. im contemplating on getting him one for his birthday next year. thing is, im terrified about if being around the baby. ive heard horror stories about burms.

basically, do you guys think having a Burmese python is worth it? i mean now that theyre on the lacey act, you can't bring them to another state, so ive heard. and with him being in the military, we might have to move.

??

As for horror stories I hear more about Pit Bulls.:hmm:

[Starbuck]

I wouldn't. If you.know you may have to move in the near future, I think it is irresponsible to buy a large snake like that, because you may be saddling someone else with a 10 foot + snake that they never intended to have.

[Starbuck]

I would worry first about getting adult enclosures for both your other snakes, then doubling that size footprint for a burm cage. A 40 gallon screen top won't cut it.

[Primal Rage]

??

As for horror stories I hear more about Pit Bulls.:hmm:

I hear more about humans..

A Burmese python is not a good beginner snake. Maybe after years of research and after his military career you could surprise him with one. Just food for thought.

[ilovemysnake]

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As for horror stories I hear more about Pit Bulls.:hmm:

i remember when i was like 6 years old going over my mother's friends house who had a 16.5 ft albino burm. and it just stared me down. i was terrified. i love snakes, dont get me wrong. but im not even 5'ft, or 110 pounds. I would be terrified of having a giant snake in the house. If i'm going to go with a python, it'd be a ball. something that i can hold by myself.

and as for pits, i have 2 & 1/2. you can train a dog. a snake is a hunter, and i dont think i would trust one that big.

Boys Tragic Death Could Have Happened To Any Family With 20-Foot Pet Python - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6O9nZ3CZs) <-- not sure if its real or fake, but thats the reason im so iffy.
:hmm:

[ilovemysnake]

I would worry first about getting adult enclosures for both your other snakes, then doubling that size footprint for a burm cage. A 40 gallon screen top won't cut it.

if we WERE to get one, it would have a custom built enclosure, with padlocks.. and be in its own room.

Can never be too safe when it comes to your kids safety.

[Mikoh4792]

Even if I had the resources to provide for a burm or retic I wouldn't own one. They take up way too much space and require more than one person to fully look after.

Everytime it poops you'll need someone to help you move the snake out while you clean a massive pile of feces and urine. Not to mention all that cleaning(when the fecal/uric fluids spread out in the cage). Huge water bowl, huge prey items...etc

It's easy to forget the tedious work you have to put in to keep up with all that.

[ilovemysnake]

Even if I had the resources to provide for a burm or retic I wouldn't own one. They take up way too much space and require more than one person to fully look after.

Everytime it poops you'll need someone to help you move the snake out while you clean a massive pile of feces and urine. Not to mention all that cleaning(when the fecal/uric fluids spread out in the cage). Huge water bowl, huge prey items...etc

thats pretty much what i tried to explain to him. 1. i think theyre dangerous. & 2. theyre expensive to take care of them. you cant feed a full grown one a mouse or fat and expect it to be full. they need chicken and rabbits.

i read that for every 5 ft of snake = 1 person. not sure if thats true or not though, but those things are massive.

[ilovemysnake]

I hear more about humans..

A Burmese python is not a good beginner snake. Maybe after years of research and after his military career you could surprise him with one. Just food for thought.

I believe he's had a burmese before and it escaped. i know he had a huge snake and it got away. 75% sure it was a burmese.

[kwhitlock]

Ehh..tired of the news press about killer snakes. Snakes can be trained, "hook training". Understand your concern. Just watch the kid if the snake ever got near it. And also..I watched a news report about a family in Asia or something with a 15 foot burm (wild, not captive) gained the trust of a little boy. He was roughly ehh 4 feet tall, they slept together everyday..food for thought.

But as far as the burm goes, I would wait. Your new to the trade of snakes, Burms are like everyone said. Not a beginner snake, reason why I won't own one for years.

[Mikoh4792]

And also..I watched a news report about a family in Asia or something with a 15 foot burm (wild, not captive) gained the trust of a little boy. He was roughly ehh 4 feet tall, they slept together everyday..food for thought.

What does this prove? Who is to say that they know the snake actually has a trusting bond with the boy? Some animals are just tame wild or not. It does not mean they form bonds with people, they can turn at anytime.

[ilovemysnake]

Ehh..tired of the news press about killer snakes. Snakes can be trained, "hook training". Understand your concern. Just watch the kid if the snake ever got near it. And also..I watched a news report about a family in Asia or something with a 15 foot burm (wild, not captive) gained the trust of a little boy. He was roughly ehh 4 feet tall, they slept together everyday..food for thought.

But as far as the burm goes, I would wait. Your new to the trade of snakes, Burms are like everyone said. Not a beginner snake, reason why I won't own one for years.

what would you say the pros/cons of having a burm are?

pro: you have a really cool huge snake... all i can think of.

con: you have a huge snake. expensive. takes up alot of room. can eat almost all my pets.
i think theyre gorgeous, amazing creatures, but i dont think theyre for me. they easily will outweigh me by 3x my weight.

[kwhitlock]

What does this prove? Who is to say that they know the snake actually has a trusting bond with the boy? Some animals are just tame wild or not. It does not mean they form bonds with people, they can turn at anytime.

Proves the point that just because it's a "big vicious killer" as media makes it out to be doesn't make that out to be what it is. I would be more scared of a venomous snake that can kill me on the spot then a big snake any day of the week. Just my .02

[kwhitlock]

what would you say the pros/cons of having a burm are?

pro: you have a really cool huge snake... all i can think of.

con: you have a huge snake. expensive. takes up alot of room. can eat almost all my pets.
i think theyre gorgeous, amazing creatures, but i dont think theyre for me. they easily will outweigh me by 3x my weight.

That's basically it to be honest.

[Mikoh4792]

Proves the point that just because it's a "big vicious killer" as media makes it out to be doesn't make that out to be what it is. I would be more scared of a venomous snake that can kill me on the spot then a big snake any day of the week. Just my .02

And I agree. Burms are often known to be "puppy dog tame" but it's still a constrictor that could easily kill you if it wanted to. Just need to be cautious.

[lady_bug87]

thats pretty much what i tried to explain to him. 1. i think theyre dangerous. & 2. theyre expensive to take care of them. you cant feed a full grown one a mouse or fat and expect it to be full. they need chicken and rabbits.

i read that for every 5 ft of snake = 1 person. not sure if thats true or not though, but those things are massive.


If you believe this than you have your answer

[Sharlynn93]

they definitely are beautiful. I had a friend that had an albino years ago, and he was amazing...but I agree, they are A LOT of work, and personally I would not want one just due to space issues, feeding costs, and the fact that I LOVE to play with my snakes on my day off...and that is one that I couldn't handle alone...I also have a lot of other pets that would be "food" for it if it ever got out, and I couldn't handle losing one of them to my pet snake...my 2 cents..

[kwhitlock]

And I agree. Burms are often known to be "puppy dog tame" but it's still a constrictor that could easily kill you if it wanted to. Just need to be cautious.

Lets just agree to disagree! ;) don't get me wrong, if I ever did own a huge snake such as this, I would be cautious with it, especially with kids around, would be a big time supervised snake only!

[ilovemysnake]

any thoughts on a snake that has similar marking to an albino burm? but doesnt max out over 10 ft.

[Mikoh4792]

dwarf burmese pythons

[ilovemysnake]

dwarf burmese pythons

wow, ive never heard of them. thanks!

[shaunyboy]

personally i would'nt have any of the large snakes in my home if my children were still young,imo it only takes one mistake and a kid gets hurt or worse

imo not adding dangers into your house when kids are around,far out ways any good points of having a large Burmese in your care

one accident,a curious toddler,mistakes,etc,etc, and a horrific life changing avent takes place

personally i could'nt do it,nor would my wife allow it

cheers shaun

[ilovemysnake]

personally i would'nt have any of the large snakes in my home if my children were still young,imo it only takes one mistake and a kid gets hurt or worse

imo not adding dangers into your house when kids are around,far out ways any good points of having a large Burmese in your care

one accident,a curious toddler,mistakes,etc,etc, and a horrific life changing avent takes place

personally i could'nt do it,nor would my wife allow it

cheers shaun


that's basically my thinking as well. i wouldnt mind having a "bigger snake" as long as it get no bigger then 9-10 feet max, and doesnt outweigh me. I prefer kings, corns, milks, hognoses, etc.. not so much boas and the bigger pythons.

[KORBIN5895]

i remember when i was like 6 years old going over my mother's friends house who had a 16.5 ft albino burm. and it just stared me down. i was terrified. i love snakes, dont get me wrong. but im not even 5'ft, or 110 pounds. I would be terrified of having a giant snake in the house. If i'm going to go with a python, it'd be a ball. something that i can hold by myself.

and as for pits, i have 2 & 1/2. you can train a dog. a snake is a hunter, and i dont think i would trust one that big.

Boys Tragic Death Could Have Happened To Any Family With 20-Foot Pet Python - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he6O9nZ3CZs) <-- not sure if its real or fake, but thats the reason im so iffy.
:hmm:
That's fake.

[shaunyboy]

Can never be too safe when it comes to your kids safety.

^^^^^
this.....

because there is NOTHING MORE PRECIOUS.....!!!



Ehh..tired of the news press about killer snakes. Snakes can be trained, "hook training". Understand your concern. Just watch the kid if the snake ever got near it. And also..I watched a news report about a family in Asia or something with a 15 foot burm (wild, not captive) gained the trust of a little boy. He was roughly ehh 4 feet tall, they slept together everyday..food for thought.
.

there was a case on the news a few weeks ago.....

where 2 CHILDREN were killed by a large snake...

Mother's heartbreak after her two sons, 4 and 6, are strangled in their sleep by 16-ft python during sleepover above pet shop




Noah and Connor Barthe were sleeping at an apartment above the Reptile Ocean pet store in Campbellton in New Brunswick, Canada

African rock python escaped its cage and slithered through the air ducts before punching a hole in the ceiling and landing on the boys

A criminal investigation has been launched but no charges so far
Officials said African rock snakes are not allowed in the province

Experts say the deaths are surprising as 'snakes don't go on killing sprees'




so it CAN happen,i bet those poor folk thought it would never happen to them...

but it did...!!

some people think they're defending the hobby, by defending the keeping of large snakes,in the correct circumstances theres nothing wrong with keeping large snakes,i would love to have the space to keep Scrubbies...

imo if you think about mixing children and large snakes in an incorrect way,then the results don't bare thinking about,the damage to the family and the hobby put under a microscope

cheers shaun

[poison123]

That's fake.

No way! Its 100% real.

That was a retic with a ball pythons head hahaha

[ilovemysnake]

^^^^^
this.....

because there is NOTHING MORE PRECIOUS.....!!!





there was a case on the news a few weeks ago.....

where 2 CHILDREN were killed by a large snake...

Mother's heartbreak after her two sons, 4 and 6, are strangled in their sleep by 16-ft python during sleepover above pet shop




Noah and Connor Barthe were sleeping at an apartment above the Reptile Ocean pet store in Campbellton in New Brunswick, Canada

African rock python escaped its cage and slithered through the air ducts before punching a hole in the ceiling and landing on the boys

A criminal investigation has been launched but no charges so far
Officials said African rock snakes are not allowed in the province

Experts say the deaths are surprising as 'snakes don't go on killing sprees'




so it CAN happen,i bet those poor folk thought it would never happen to them...

but it did...!!

some people think they're defending the hobby, by defending the keeping of large snakes,in the correct circumstances theres nothing wrong with keeping large snakes,i would love to have the space to keep Scrubbies...

imo if you think about mixing children and large snakes in an incorrect way,then the results don't bare thinking about,the damage to the family and the hobby put under a microscope

cheers shaun

i actually think i heard about that. my fiance told me. deffinately pretty scary knowing that you're pet can kill your child.

i dont think under any circumstance would I mix a child and a large snake. accident happen. all it takes is one slip up & you could be attending the funeral of a 3 year old.

[ilovemysnake]

That's fake.

ok thank you.

[Valvaren]

As far as I know that incident with the rock python in new Brunswick is being looked into as a murder now.

[Sublimeballs]

Well let me start off by stating if your living situation is likely to change, ie different state, then anything on the Lacey act is not a good idea. Second people always seem to overlook the fact that there are dwarf burmese that do not get over 10 feet and are significantly more slender bodied then normals Burms. I've heard of 3 foot long breeder males, and females typically don't hit the 8 foot mark. Yes burmese are awesome animals, I'd love to have one, but they arnt for your average keeper. Snakes of that magnitude take some seroius man power to control in a safe way. What state are you in anyway?

[ilovemysnake]

As far as I know that incident with the rock python in new Brunswick is being looked into as a murder now.

murder? why? and what are they going to do, arrest the snake.. it was no ones fault.

[ilovemysnake]

Well let me start off by stating if your living situation is likely to change, ie different state, then anything on the Lacey act is not a good idea. Second people always seem to overlook the fact that there are dwarf burmese that do not get over 10 feet and are significantly more slender bodied then normals Burms. I've heard of 3 foot long breeder males, and females typically don't hit the 8 foot mark. Yes burmese are awesome animals, I'd love to have one, but they arnt for your average keeper. Snakes of that magnitude take some seroius man power to control in a safe way. What state are you in anyway?


im sorry, i just saw this. i live in pennsylvania. outside of philly.

[poison123]

murder? why? and what are they going to do, arrest the snake.. it was no ones fault.

They are investigating the people (the moms friend i think) . Not the snake. And the snake is already dead.

I to heard that it was being investigated as a murder but it was never confirmed.

[ilovemysnake]

They are investigating the people (the moms friend i think) . Not the snake. And the snake is already dead.

I to heard that it was being investigated as a murder but it was never confirmed.

did they kill the snake? or did it die from eating the child? i didnt hear everything about it. just bits and parts.

[poison123]

did they kill the snake? or did it die from eating the child? i didnt hear everything about it. just bits and parts.

The snake was euthanized after the incident.

[ilovemysnake]

The snake was euthanized after the incident.

thats horrible. i dont think thats fair to the animal. its a hunter. it hunts. now if the circumstance was that it was a dog, i would agree.

[Valvaren]

The snake didn't eat anything, it supposedly strangled them and then crawled into a corner. Which seems to not even be what actually happened anymore.

[ilovemysnake]

The snake didn't eat anything, it supposedly strangled them and then crawled into a corner. Which seems to not even be what actually happened anymore.

would a snake do that though? strangle prey and not eat it? i've never heard of that happening.
makes sense that theyre investigating it as a murder.

[Mikoh4792]

would a snake do that though? strangle prey and not eat it? i've never heard of that happening.
makes sense that theyre investigating it as a murder.

If it strangled the kids than it was out of a feeding response... and I think we would have seen traces of saliva on the bodies(Trying to swallow the kids and then deciding not to later) but there are no signs of it. Just doesn't add up. Why would it constrict them and decide not to eat them without even trying first?

[ilovemysnake]

If it strangled the kids than it was out of a feeding response... and I think we would have seen traces of saliva on the bodies(Trying to swallow the kids and then deciding not to later) but there are no signs of it. Just doesn't add up. Why would it constrict them and decide not to eat them without even trying first?

i dont think it would. it doesnt make sense. not at all. which means someone probably strangled the children, let the snake lose, then blamed the snake.

[Sharlynn93]

that video was so comical my whole household laughed till our belly hurts...lol..as far as the 2 kids that were killed by the rock python, I read that the kids were constricted out of a fear response from the snake as it fell through the ceiling onto them...it had no intentions of eating them, since there was no evidence of an "attack"...

[ilovemysnake]

that video was so comical my whole household laughed till our belly hurts...lol..as far as the 2 kids that were killed by the rock python, I read that the kids were constricted out of a fear response from the snake as it fell through the ceiling onto them...it had no intentions of eating them, since there was no evidence of an "attack"...

were they constricated at the same time though?
if not, which i doubt they were, then why didnt the child run away and get help?

its not adding up at all.

[poison123]

If it strangled the kids than it was out of a feeding response... and I think we would have seen traces of saliva on the bodies(Trying to swallow the kids and then deciding not to later) but there are no signs of it. Just doesn't add up. Why would it constrict them and decide not to eat them without even trying first?

My atb constricted a couple of meals and just dropped them down to the ground. This was when I moved her into a new enclosure. My guess is she was to stessed to eat and saw the mouse as a threat.

[poison123]

that video was so comical my whole household laughed till our belly hurts...lol..as far as the 2 kids that were killed by the rock python, I read that the kids were constricted out of a fear response from the snake as it fell through the ceiling onto them...it had no intentions of eating them, since there was no evidence of an "attack"...

The snake did not fall onto them.

[Mikoh4792]

My atb constricted a couple of meals and just dropped them down to the ground. This was when I moved her into a new enclosure. My guess is she was to stessed to eat and saw the mouse as a threat.

But did she not bite first? There would have been teeth marks or atleast saliva

[poison123]

if not, which i doubt they were, then why didnt the child run away and get help?



They were sleeping.

Though I do agree not everything adds up but everything has not been released as far as I know. And may never be released.

[poison123]

But did she not bite first? There would have been teeth marks or atleast saliva

Yes she did bite.

Did they ever release whether or not their were bite marks? I believe an officer at the seen said he didnt see any but that was all I heard. I havent even checked for updates since the giant thread we had here though lol.

[Mikoh4792]

Yes she did bite.

Did they ever release whether or not their were bite marks? I believe an officer at the seen said he didnt see any but that was all I heard. I havent even checked for updates since the giant thread we had here though lol.

Well as you said, they haven't released much haha. I'll just stay skeptical until everything comes to light

[Sharlynn93]

i read a bunch of articles on it, and 85% of them said the snake crashed through the ceiling and landed on both boys...that is what I was going by when I said that...

[poison123]

i read a bunch of articles on it, and 85% of them said the snake crashed through the ceiling and landed on both boys...that is what I was going by when I said that...

A lot of first reports said that. The owner himself said the ceiling broke else where. And for all we know the snake could have climbed down the ceiling after part of it collapsed.

[Sharlynn93]

I haven't read anything recent on it...just looked it up about a month or so ago when my hubby's ex started pitching fits about us having snakes and how dangerous they are...she thinks ours will kill the kids or something...ugh...none of ours are even big enough...besides, our snake room is on 1st floor which is separated from the upstairs with a steel door...no chance of them getting upstairs even if they got out...

[KORBIN5895]

As far as I know that incident with the rock python in new Brunswick is being looked into as a murder now.

I don't think so.. The last police report plainly attributed the deaths to the snake. They are going to be pressing a bunch of charges for negligence ( it was completely avoidable) and keeping illegal species of which he had several.

[KORBIN5895]

So I'm prety sure there were bite marks and blood. It was a holiday here in NB and the family was up late drinking. The kids spent the day at a farm where Jean Claude got his animals he fed to his rap and alligators so the kids smelled like prey. Many snakes will kill something that smells like prey but not eat it when they realize it's not what it smells like ( shaunyboy talks about people sewing chicken heads to rats for this reason). This snake was 14' long and could have easily lowered it self down to the floor. As for killing two at once I just had my woman python constrict a mouse then use it's body to grind and smashed another (f/t) so I could see an arp doing it easily to a child. Finally if it was a murder I guarantee the mother would be screaming long and loud about it not being the snake yet she has never said anything different. The only article I have ever seen claiming it was being looked into as a murder was from an Australian radio station which I wouldn't consider a valuable source of info at all.

[Sublimeballs]

murder? why? and what are they going to do, arrest the snake.. it was no ones fault.

No, not like that. I haven't thrown my 2 cents in on this incident yet, for fear of starting a giant argument. But there are a lot of things that I and others have found fishy about this incident(google what snake experts have to say on the subject). For starters neither of the boys were bitten by the rock python; not python behavior to constrict with out anchoring itself to the animal in question first. Next both boys were incapacitated at the exact same time; while not impossible still unlikely. There's been speculation that the snake fell from the ceiling landed ontop of the boys and ,startled, held on for stability(somehow getting coils all the way around the boys?). Also the man who owns the snake has a son. The boys that died were sleeping over; why was he in a different area of the house when this happened? When I was a kid, at a sleepover you hung out right up til passing out in the same room. It's seems that if the guy wanted to kill the 2 boys, saying the python did it would raise few questions; cause everyone knows snakes are evil ugly monsters right.

Now I'd like to go ahead and say that these may just be wild assumptions, or perhaps wishful thinking that it wasn't the python(as terrible as it is if the man did it). But it just doesn't add up in my opinion. Although almost every story about it online has varied from the last. I'm very interested to see how this one will end.

[Sublimeballs]

Wow there was like 20 posts that hadent loaded when I posted this

[LiL Zap]

murder? why? and what are they going to do, arrest the snake.. it was no ones fault.

No bite marks were found on the children's bodies. When constrictor snakes (whether it's a king snake or an African rock python) hunt prey, they always bite first. This is their way of holding onto their prey.

If the python did "kill" the kids, why isn't there ANY bite marks?

[Terranaut]

No bite marks were found on the children's bodies. When constrictor snakes (whether it's a king snake or an African rock python) hunt prey, they always bite first. This is their way of holding onto their prey.

If the python did "kill" the kids, why isn't there ANY bite marks?

Where did you get the "no bite marks" information?
Can you link it? I have not read one bit of evidence either way.

[shaunyboy]

that's basically my thinking as well. i wouldnt mind having a "bigger snake" as long as it get no bigger then 9-10 feet max, and doesnt outweigh me. I prefer kings, corns, milks, hognoses, etc.. not so much boas and the bigger pythons.


ask your fiance to look at Carpet Pythons.....

come in all sorts of patterns and colours,usually out on display hanging of a branch,great feeding responses,easy to keep and a hardy species

most average around 6 to 8 feet,and the same girth as a coke can...

maybe an alternative to one of the very large snakes

cheers shaun

[CosmicOwl]

Regardless of whether they are tame or not, I still wouldn't want a pet that requires two people to handle.

[Mikoh4792]

ask your fiance to look at Carpet Pythons.....

come in all sorts of patterns and colours,usually out on display hanging of a branch,great feeding responses,easy to keep and a hardy species

most average around 6 to 8 feet,and the same girth as a coke can...

maybe an alternative to one of the very large snakes

cheers shaun

You can always recommend a carpet python lol. To me they are the best all around snake to keep.

They look good, they display good, get to a good size, and usually have a nice feeding response.

[KORBIN5895]

No, not like that. I haven't thrown my 2 cents in on this incident yet, for fear of starting a giant argument. But there are a lot of things that I and others have found fishy about this incident(google what snake experts have to say on the subject). For starters neither of the boys were bitten by the rock python; not python behavior to constrict with out anchoring itself to the animal in question first. Next both boys were incapacitated at the exact same time; while not impossible still unlikely. There's been speculation that the snake fell from the ceiling landed ontop of the boys and ,startled, held on for stability(somehow getting coils all the way around the boys?). Also the man who owns the snake has a son. The boys that died were sleeping over; why was he in a different area of the house when this happened? When I was a kid, at a sleepover you hung out right up til passing out in the same room. It's seems that if the guy wanted to kill the 2 boys, saying the python did it would raise few questions; cause everyone knows snakes are evil ugly monsters right.

Now I'd like to go ahead and say that these may just be wild assumptions, or perhaps wishful thinking that it wasn't the python(as terrible as it is if the man did it). But it just doesn't add up in my opinion. Although almost every story about it online has varied from the last. I'm very interested to see how this one will end.

Here is where critical thinking tips it away from your theory. He knew there would be some form of investigation yet he owned how many illegal animals? Think about it. Why try to cover it with an illegal animal and get busted with all of the other illegal animals?

Also the only snake "experts" I ever saw say anything were breeders that had a vested interest in giants. Like when Jay from prehistoric predators started telling everyone the kids were killed by CO from the broken vent pipe....seriously?

[Mikoh4792]

Here is where critical thinking tips it away from your theory. He knew there would be some form of investigation yet he owned how many illegal animals? Think about it. Why try to cover it with an illegal animal and get busted with all of the other illegal animals?

Also the only snake "experts" I ever saw say anything were breeders that had a vested interest in giants. Like when Jay from prehistoric predators started telling everyone the kids were killed by CO from the broken vent pipe....seriously?

Maybe so he'd get charged with a lesser crime, or atleast have the authorities and public be distracted by it.

Just guessing.

[bigsnakegirl785]

Well, it appears USARK is getting ready to battle the Burm listing on the Lacey Act, so they may (big may) end up being taken off. So there's that at least. I wouldn't count on it any time soon, but it's something to think about for some people.

In my opinion, any animal of any kind should be supervised or not brought out around a child. Chances are either the child will harm the animal or the animal will harm the child.

I've always heard it's 1 person per 6ft, and sometimes per 8ft.

Since you seem to be taking into account the cost, work, and the dangers of having this kind of snake, I think you're being responsible enough in your opinion. If you are really this uncomfortable about having one, then let your fiance know. Not every animal is for every person.

[Terranaut]

I ask again where is the evidence they were not bitten. The cops said the guy had blood on him and his shorts. This says bite to me. Also the last update I can find on this has it's info dated from August 23rd. Please post facts or science to back up wild allegations and not theories. This is a touchy subject and although I wish there was something that showed the snake was not the cause evidence shows it was. Pathology shows it was and all of the witnesses said it was.

[ilovemysnake]

ask your fiance to look at Carpet Pythons.....

come in all sorts of patterns and colours,usually out on display hanging of a branch,great feeding responses,easy to keep and a hardy species

most average around 6 to 8 feet,and the same girth as a coke can...

maybe an alternative to one of the very large snakes

cheers shaun

Thanks! that actually sounds perfect.

[ilovemysnake]

Regardless of whether they are tame or not, I still wouldn't want a pet that requires two people to handle.

exactly, and both my fiance and i are small in stature.

[shaunyboy]

one of the stories i read said.....

the 2nd child attempted to rescue the first child constricted by the snake,imo that would cause the snake to become defensive and coil around and constrict the 2nd child...

in this day and age,forensic science will be able to determine the difference a human can do,compaired to a large constrictor capable of many hundreds of pounds per square inch of pressure,i watched an adult anaconda constrict a live turkey sized bird,the bird has pressure guages attatched to it,the readings were...

900 pounds per square inch,held on for 15 continues minutes...

they said it would be like the wieght of a school bus, on each square inch of your chest

so imo the bruising and damage a snake would cause,would be much different to what a man could do

cheers shaun

[MizCandice]

I've had balls that struck, constricted then left the rat.. losing interest in the meal..

[Mikoh4792]

I've had balls that struck, constricted then left the rat.. losing interest in the meal..

Exactly. You'd find bite marks and saliva.