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athms
11-23-13, 09:01 PM
I just bought one is it big enough. My honduran is 18-19 inches when can i put him in it

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 09:04 PM
You can put him in anytime you want. The smaller he is the more cover you will need.

Substrate to burrow in, multiple hides. Some foliage, plants...etc. Also cover all sides but the front to reduce visual traffic.

I'd also cover 4/5th's of the screen top to retain heat and humidity.

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 09:06 PM
Do you have a thermostat to control the heat source? What heat source are you using?

What thermometers are you using to monitor temperature?

athms
11-23-13, 09:22 PM
Do you have a thermostat to control the heat source? What heat source are you using?

What thermometers are you using to monitor temperature?

Right know a heat mat. But i have a 75 watt night glow heat bulb

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 09:39 PM
Right know a heat mat. But i have a 75 watt night glow heat bulb

Do you have a thermostat? How big is the heat mat?

athms
11-23-13, 10:09 PM
Do you have a thermostat? How big is the heat mat?

I have 2 digital thermostats and the heat mat is a 10 gallon

athms
11-23-13, 10:16 PM
Do you have a thermostat? How big is the heat mat?

This may be a dumb question but do u know anything about pixie frogs

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 10:21 PM
Okay I'm guessing you don't know what a thermostat is.

Thermostats and thermometers are not the same thing.

A thermostat is a device used to control the heat source. You need one so that your heat source doesn't overheat the enclosure.

A thermometer is a device used to measure temperature. You also need this to monitor the conditions in your enclosure.


A 10 gallon heat mat is too small for a 40 gallon tank. Go out and get one appropriate for your setup. It should cover 1/4 to 1/3 of the floor space.

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 10:22 PM
This may be a dumb question but do u know anything about pixie frogs

Nothing at all about pixie frogs.

athms
11-23-13, 10:27 PM
Okay I'm guessing you don't know what a thermostat is.

Thermostats and thermometers are not the same thing.

A thermostat is a device used to control the heat source. You need one so that your heat source doesn't overheat the enclosure.

A thermometer is a device used to measure temperature. You also need this to monitor the conditions in your enclosure.


A 10 gallon heat mat is too small for a 40 gallon tank. Go out and get one appropriate for your setup. It should cover 1/4 to 1/3 of the floor space.

Okay i feel dumb lol. I will just buy a 40 gallon heat mat from lllreptile on cyber monday does that sound like a good idea?

athms
11-23-13, 10:27 PM
And will the tank be big enough for a adult male hondo

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 10:31 PM
And will the tank be big enough for a adult male hondo

Some people including big name breeders might say yes. Personally, for a snake that could potentially grow to 6ft give or take, I'd say it's a bit small.

However a 40 gallon should last you years if you decide to provide more for your adult snake later on.

Mikoh4792
11-23-13, 10:32 PM
Okay i feel dumb lol. I will just buy a 40 gallon heat mat from lllreptile on cyber monday does that sound like a good idea?

Sounds like a great idea. I'd buy a helix thermostat from LLLreptile while you are at it. No excuses, you need a thermostat.

edit: if you are on a budget I'd recommend getting a hydrofarm from amazon.com

athms
11-23-13, 10:34 PM
Sounds like a great idea. I'd buy a helix thermostat from LLLreptile while you are at it. No excuses, you need a thermostat.

K my birthday was friday soooo MONEY!!!

athms
11-23-13, 10:35 PM
Still want a boamaster

athms
11-23-13, 10:39 PM
Sand blasted grape wood vs pacific driftwood

kwhitlock
11-23-13, 10:42 PM
Okay i feel dumb lol. I will just buy a 40 gallon heat mat from lllreptile on cyber monday does that sound like a good idea?

You still need something to control the temperature of the heat mat. How much you want to spend on one, is up to you. They have ones for reptiles that are awesome control almost everything. Seeing as this is for a Hondo, any simple thermostat will work. I use a hydro farm thermostate for both my snakes and it works well. They are roughly $40 shipped off of Amazon. I need to stress you NEED to have a thermostat.

athms
11-23-13, 10:43 PM
For him to climb on

swolek
11-23-13, 10:44 PM
This may be a dumb question but do u know anything about pixie frogs

I know about them, what do you need to know?

athms
11-23-13, 10:45 PM
You still need something to control the temperature of the heat mat. How much you want to spend on one, is up to you. They have ones for reptiles that are awesome control almost everything. Seeing as this is for a Hondo, any simple thermostat will work. I use a hydro farm thermostate for both my snakes and it works well. They are roughly $40 shipped off of Amazon. I need to stress you NEED to have a thermostat.

Zoo Med 500R thermostat with probe (http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/thermometers-thermostats-and-timers/-/zoo-med-500r-thermostat-with-probe/)

would this work

athms
11-23-13, 10:45 PM
I know about them, what do you need to know?

How long can a baby live in a 10 gallon

know i have a empty one

kwhitlock
11-23-13, 10:46 PM
For him to climb on

Not all Hondos are climbers depends on the snake. I know mine isn't. I wouldn't spend a whole lot of money on a big branch for him to climb on unless you like the look of it.

swolek
11-23-13, 10:49 PM
How long can a baby live in a 10 gallon

know i have a empty one

Honestly, the adults are so inactive that they can live in a 10 gallon for their whole life.

athms
11-23-13, 10:50 PM
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athms
11-23-13, 10:50 PM
My cart so far

athms
11-23-13, 10:52 PM
Honestly, the adults are so inactive that they can live in a 10 gallon for their whole life.

Exo Terra Compact Fluorescent 13wt Natural Light

is that a good uvb light

athms
11-23-13, 10:53 PM
How do i add what animals i have

MDT
11-23-13, 11:02 PM
As a rule, UVB is not needed for snakes.

swolek
11-23-13, 11:40 PM
Exo Terra Compact Fluorescent 13wt Natural Light

is that a good uvb light

Pixie frogs don't need UVB so sure, that would work for lighting :). But a regular florescent bulb would work just as well.

Primal Rage
11-24-13, 03:28 PM
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Okay I'm guessing you don't know what a thermostat is.

Thermostats and thermometers are not the same thing.

A thermostat is a device used to control the heat source. You need one so that your heat source doesn't overheat the enclosure.

A thermometer is a device used to measure temperature. You also need this to monitor the conditions in your enclosure.


A 10 gallon heat mat is too small for a 40 gallon tank. Go out and get one appropriate for your setup. It should cover 1/4 to 1/3 of the floor space.


Another thing is your hide size. I noticed on your shopping list that you had several large hides. My younger hondos have large hides but they never use them. They always cram themselves into the smaller ones. I think it makes them feel more secure. The little coconut house hides at petsmart/Petco work great. Also, like mikoh mentioned a thermostat is a MUST have. Keep us posted! And let's see some pics once you get everything setup.-Patrick

Mikoh4792
11-24-13, 03:58 PM
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Another thing is your hide size. I noticed on your shopping list that you had several large hides. My younger hondos have large hides but they never use them. They always cram themselves into the smaller ones. I think it makes them feel more secure. The little coconut house hides at petsmart/Petco work great. Also, like mikoh mentioned a thermostat is a MUST have. Keep us posted! And let's see some pics once you get everything setup.-Patrick

Yup most of my snakes will jam themselves into the tighest space available.