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nyjon
11-01-13, 04:09 PM
:) took some pics of my milk. i just got him 2 weeks ago and he was actually quite camera happy :)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/10616043134_d0c8996861_c.jpg

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synyster-garter
11-01-13, 05:03 PM
Love how bold the colours are on a milk snake
they look the best just after shedding

drumcrush
11-01-13, 05:06 PM
Beautiful snake, nice shots!

Pareeeee
11-01-13, 07:19 PM
Wow what colours!!!

sharthun
11-01-13, 09:00 PM
Wow beautiful! ;) Welcome btw.

Hurrok
11-01-13, 11:05 PM
Beautiful snake. The red is just so vibrant!

nyjon
11-04-13, 09:43 PM
thank you guys... this evening when i came home from work i took a look his tank and i see him hanging out by the grass. could this mean he is getting comfortable or was he looking for food? since i got him i have never seen him out in the open like that :suspicious: its monday so it was feeding time... he ate about an hr ago with no issues. he actually ate it within seconds after he smelled the small fuzzy :)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/10683245145_c885a0ddf1_c.jpg

nyjon
11-09-13, 10:22 PM
some new pics from today :)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/10770451434_eb13f80c9e_c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/10770454794_074e3992f2_c.jpg

drumcrush
11-09-13, 11:03 PM
Really nice!

sharthun
11-10-13, 04:58 AM
Wow love the bright red. Awesome pics! :)

kwhitlock
11-10-13, 08:24 AM
That's a beautiful milk! Love the colors and how clean he is! Amazing snake!

nyjon
11-18-13, 09:01 PM
Thanks guys!

looks like snakeweed is getting ready to shed :) he was extremely gentle and calm when i picked him up (i thought he was going to fight me and try to get away). I offered him a small fuzzy and he ate it. I had to put it right on his nose for him to take it. hopefully by the time he sheds the meal will be fully digested. his whole belly is hazey but his eyes arent blue yet. cant wait for his first shed with me :rolleyes:

sharthun
11-18-13, 09:12 PM
Thanks guys!

looks like snakeweed is getting ready to shed :) he was extremely gentle and calm when i picked him up (i thought he was going to fight me and try to get away). I offered him a small fuzzy and he ate it. I had to put it right on his nose for him to take it. hopefully by the time he sheds the meal will be fully digested. his whole belly is hazey but his eyes arent blue yet. cant wait for his first shed with me :rolleyes:
Excellent! Such a beautiful milk! :cool:

drumcrush
11-18-13, 09:31 PM
Thanks guys!

looks like snakeweed is getting ready to shed :) he was extremely gentle and calm when i picked him up (i thought he was going to fight me and try to get away). I offered him a small fuzzy and he ate it. I had to put it right on his nose for him to take it. hopefully by the time he sheds the meal will be fully digested. his whole belly is hazey but his eyes arent blue yet. cant wait for his first shed with me :rolleyes:

Good luck!

nyjon
11-25-13, 08:14 AM
Excellent! Such a beautiful milk! :cool:

Good luck!

looks like this heat is drying up all the humidity. my lil guy was poking his head out of the aspen this morning when i woke up so i decided to check up on him. His eyes were blue thursday morning when i checked him and he's been in a deep hide and super inactive. Well, it looked like he was able to take off the head part of the old skin and thats about it. i soaked in warm water this morning for about 3 mins (i had to go to work) so hopefully that helps. the heat has been cranking at my house and rightfully so as its been 20 degrees over the last few days.

will he be able to shed today? im guessing hes going to try again later as he still has the entire skin to take off minus the head...:mad:

sharthun
11-25-13, 11:46 AM
Put some moistened spagnum moss in hide. I do this for all my snakes in their warm hides.

nyjon
11-25-13, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the reply :)

Put the moss inside the hide on the warm side? Will he keep trying to shed? I hope he can take off whats left.

sharthun
11-25-13, 02:36 PM
Thanks for the reply :)

Put the moss inside the hide on the warm side? Will he keep trying to shed? I hope he can take off whats left.

My snakes tend to use the warm hides more when in shed. You could put the moss in all hides. Just make sure the hide that's being used more frequently has moss.

nyjon
11-25-13, 07:59 PM
I put him in a plastic container with warm wet paper towels and he was able to shed. I also lowered the temp to around 82. I had it on the high side on 89. I usually feed him on mondays, should i wait till tomorrow? Or see if he will take it?

Thanks for your help Steve #thumbsup

sharthun
11-25-13, 08:05 PM
I put him in a plastic container with warm wet paper towels and he was able to shed. I also lowered the temp to around 82. I had it on the high side on 89. I usually feed him on mondays, should i wait till tomorrow? Or see if he will take it?

Thanks for your help Steve #thumbsup

I would wait until tomorrow to let him recover a bit after the molt. It's a good idea not to handle your snake for a day before feeding unless it doesn't stop them from feeding after they adapt.

Steve

nyjon
11-26-13, 12:17 AM
I would wait until tomorrow to let him recover a bit after the molt. It's a good idea not to handle your snake for a day before feeding unless it doesn't stop them from feeding after they adapt.

Steve

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/11062566874_57d287d0fd_c.jpg

i offered him a fuzzie and left him alone for about 45mins. When i checked on him he was half way done so i let him be and put him back in his cage after he was done. Lesson learned. Ill keep his temps in the lower 80's and cover the screen and add some moist paper towels when he sheds again. thanks for your help once again. here he is stuffed and looking glossy :)

sharthun
11-26-13, 09:17 AM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/11062566874_57d287d0fd_c.jpg

i offered him a fuzzie and left him alone for about 45mins. When i checked on him he was half way done so i let him be and put him back in his cage after he was done. Lesson learned. Ill keep his temps in the lower 80's and cover the screen and add some moist paper towels when he sheds again. thanks for your help once again. here he is stuffed and looking glossy :)

I feed all my snakes in their enclosures.No need to take them out to feed.;)

nyjon
11-29-13, 06:38 PM
love their colors after a shed :)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5546/11124790283_85b6aef3bb_c.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/11124687444_94f44a2b8d_c.jpg

messing around with some gradiant :D

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i also ordered a mbk from ryan beatty from kingsnake.com :D it should ship monday for tuesday delivery :D

thank you steve for linking me to kingsnake.com #thumbsup

sharthun
11-29-13, 06:40 PM
Awesome pics!! ;)

nyjon
11-29-13, 06:55 PM
Awesome pics!! ;)

thanks steve :) i went with kingsnake.com for a mbk. i cant wait man lol :p

sharthun
11-29-13, 07:15 PM
thanks steve :) i went with kingsnake.com for a mbk. i cant wait man lol :p

Sweet!!! :)

nyjon
11-30-13, 10:03 PM
heres some pictures of current setup for my milk snake. ill setup the mbk exactly the same.


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3672/11144444536_44893d5f1d_c.jpg

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nyjon
11-30-13, 10:57 PM
is 80F (warm side) and 75(cool side) ok for a milk snake? im debating weather or not i should add the heat pad :3eyes:

sharthun
11-30-13, 10:58 PM
heres some pictures of current setup for my milk snake. ill setup the mbk exactly the same.


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3672/11144444536_44893d5f1d_c.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3735/11144424535_d0cecd08ca_c.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5518/11144421435_581d4ebf5d_c.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3795/11144595173_1b09b71bfb_c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/11144481534_b1389726eb_c.jpg

Looking good!!! :)

nyjon
11-30-13, 11:01 PM
hey steven :)

burning the midnight oil?

what temp do you have your warm side set to on your milk snake? :)

sharthun
11-30-13, 11:11 PM
hey steven :)

burning the midnight oil?

what temp do you have your warm side set to on your milk snake? :)

Sup? I don't have a hot side for my black milk. They like it cool. He gets room temperature which is now around 73.if it's real cold at night I do turn on a 60 watt infrared light that keeps one end of his huge 10g tank around 80 degrees. I keep my other two kings and corn's hot side around 85 and cool side low 70's.

Steve

nyjon
12-01-13, 08:15 PM
Sup? I don't have a hot side for my black milk. They like it cool. He gets room temperature which is now around 73.if it's real cold at night I do turn on a 60 watt infrared light that keeps one end of his huge 10g tank around 80 degrees. I keep my other two kings and corn's hot side around 85 and cool side low 70's.

Steve

thank you sir. i just adjusted my temps similar to what you have :)


just waiting for my mbk :D

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5501/11163915383_1e829920fe_c.jpg

sharthun
12-01-13, 09:06 PM
thank you sir. i just adjusted my temps similar to what you have :)


just waiting for my mbk :D

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5501/11163915383_1e829920fe_c.jpg


Looking good! MBK's have lots of personality! Did you get male or female? :D

nyjon
12-01-13, 09:09 PM
Looking good! MBK's have lots of personality! Did you get male or female? :D

thanks!! i specifically asked for a male :D im not sure what the milk snake is. the shop where i got it from was going to pop him/her and i told them not to worry about it. do female milk/king get larger then males?

sharthun
12-01-13, 09:35 PM
thanks!! i specifically asked for a male :D im not sure what the milk snake is. the shop where i got it from was going to pop him/her and i told them not to worry about it. do female milk/king get larger then males?

All I know is male Black Milks get larger than females. Not sure on other kings. :)

kwhitlock
12-02-13, 04:28 AM
thanks!! i specifically asked for a male :D im not sure what the milk snake is. the shop where i got it from was going to pop him/her and i told them not to worry about it. do female milk/king get larger then males?

I think it depends on what kind of milk/king it is. (Honduran, Mexican, pueblan, etc.)

nyjon
12-06-13, 10:40 PM
here is my mexican black king :) hopefully the spots go away as she gets older and it looks like she rubbed her nose trying to get out while she was shipped. the male i originally wanted did not work out but regardless im happy. she is definitely more docile than my milk snake ;)

you can definitely see the spots more with the camera's flash but i love how the blue shines with the flash aswell :D


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/11245834464_5541e91429_c.jpg

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nyjon
12-06-13, 10:40 PM
this is how she looks without the flash. as you can see the speckled spots are barely noticable but they are there if you look close. the spots on the side are clearly visible..

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/11245923313_dc3f3e9d98_c.jpg

she is also way more active in her tank than my milk snake. my milk snake will hide all day if he could. she could careless about whos in the room. she is out and about lol

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3720/11246423705_aa06c10745_c.jpg

Primal Rage
12-07-13, 05:43 AM
Nice MBK! I forgot how much I liked these guys. Thanks for posting all the pics nyjon!

nyjon
12-07-13, 10:01 AM
Thanks primal rage :)

Does anyone else think my mbk is a mbk/black milk cross? I emailed the seller and he said she was 100% but i have my doubts. He said the spots will go away 99% of the time and if shes crossed with a black milk i can see why hes so confident the spots will go away.

sharthun
12-07-13, 12:21 PM
Thanks primal rage :)

Does anyone else think my mbk is a mbk/black milk cross? I emailed the seller and he said she was 100% but i have my doubts. He said the spots will go away 99% of the time and if shes crossed with a black milk i can see why hes so confident the spots will go away.

Congrats! She's one beautiful snake!! :) I agree, I think the seller mislead you. You can see the milk snake cross banding in a couple of pics. Definitely a keeper though!! :)

Steve

EL Ziggy
12-07-13, 08:16 PM
She's a beauty. What did you name her?

sharthun
12-09-13, 10:39 AM
The more I look at those pics the more I like! One gorgeous snake!:cool:

Starbuck
12-09-13, 01:12 PM
I've seen lots of pictures of jevenile mbks with banding that goes away as they get older. If the seller owns black milks I guess its a possibility, but I wouldn't say it is guaranteed.


Just something to think about, Op: as you add to your collection, which I'm sure you will, make every effort to quarantine your snakes for at least 3 months before putting them in the same room. This means separate rooms, separate cage furnitire, feeding tongs, everything. It would be devastating if a new snake were to bring a pathigen into your collection, or if an older one gave something to new, higher end animal (since many ofnus twnd to 'trade up' as we add to our collections.).
Your snakes are very beautiful, it will be great to see them grow up.

EL Ziggy
12-09-13, 01:23 PM
I've seen lots of pictures of jevenile mbks with banding that goes away as they get older. If the seller owns black milks I guess its a possibility, but I wouldn't say it is guaranteed.


Just something to think about, Op: as you add to your collection, which I'm sure you will, make every effort to quarantine your snakes for at least 3 months before putting them in the same room. This means separate rooms, separate cage furnitire, feeding tongs, everything. It would be devastating if a new snake were to bring a pathigen into your collection, or if an older one gave something to new, higher end animal (since many ofnus twnd to 'trade up' as we add to our collections.).
Your snakes are very beautiful, it will be great to see them grow up.
^^Great advice Starbuck. I didn't think about the quarantine.^^

nyjon
12-10-13, 10:19 AM
Nice MBK! I forgot how much I liked these guys. Thanks for posting all the pics nyjon!

thanks primal. ive had my eye on a mbk for a while now. hopefully she goes 100% black when shes all grown (that's what attracted me the most when i found out about the mbk) :rolleyes:

Congrats! She's one beautiful snake!! :) I agree, I think the seller mislead you. You can see the milk snake cross banding in a couple of pics. Definitely a keeper though!! :)

Steve

thanks steve. after going back and forth, i decided to keep her. the seller offered a full refund after swapping a few emails but she is beyond docile (i hope thats normal) to the point my 4yo son enjoys handling her :)

She's a beauty. What did you name her?

my 4yo named "her" ratking lol. i was expecting a male, but there were some issues with that order so i ended up with a female. so ratking it is lol

I've seen lots of pictures of jevenile mbks with banding that goes away as they get older. If the seller owns black milks I guess its a possibility, but I wouldn't say it is guaranteed.


Just something to think about, Op: as you add to your collection, which I'm sure you will, make every effort to quarantine your snakes for at least 3 months before putting them in the same room. This means separate rooms, separate cage furnitire, feeding tongs, everything. It would be devastating if a new snake were to bring a pathigen into your collection, or if an older one gave something to new, higher end animal (since many ofnus twnd to 'trade up' as we add to our collections.).
Your snakes are very beautiful, it will be great to see them grow up.

thank you starbuck. i have done my due diligence this time around to make sure i keep them as long as possible. i was not successfull with my first 2 corns i owned but i knew nothing about snakes. i spent a good 2 years reading and just waiting till i was ready to own another. i read about quarantining them and to be honest i was so excited that i didnt think about it. i did leave her in a tub for an hr to check for mites but that was it. definitely worth noting if i ever get another. thanks :)


is it normal for them to go to their humid hide after eating? i fed my milk snake in his enclosure last nite (good advise steve) since he was being picky about eating when the king snake arrived. he ate the fuzzy without issues and 15 mins later i see him in his humid hide :confused: is this normal? the ambient temp was 75 and his hot spot was at its normal temp between 88-90..

thanks guys!!

drumcrush
12-10-13, 11:59 AM
Mbks grow fast! Just thought I'd warn ya :D

nyjon
12-10-13, 01:01 PM
Mbks grow fast! Just thought I'd warn ya :D


she is one active lady thats for sure. she was exploring her tank even after she ate a nice 2" fuzzy :eek: if that would of been my milk snake he would of been hiding until the next feeding time lol

nyjon
12-12-13, 01:13 AM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5523/11335203414_591f289fbf_z.jpg

She a night crawler lol

Are king snakes more active than milks? I rarely see my milk out. He eats well but i never see him out. Only when he was brand new.

I see my king out eveynight..

sharthun
12-12-13, 02:21 AM
she is one active lady thats for sure. she was exploring her tank even after she ate a nice 2" fuzzy :eek: if that would of been my milk snake he would of been hiding until the next feeding time lol


Lol just like Darth!

Starbuck
12-12-13, 05:42 AM
Your milk is probably more used to his environment, while the mbk is still.exploring and figuring out where everything is. My kings are faorly active though, at all times of day.


Additionally (this is only heresay, idk if there is proof) I have heard of other snakes acting more 'nervous' if kings are present, as they can smell the kingsnale and recognize that it is a predator, regardless of size. That being said, milks are in the lampropeltis group as well and caan amd will eat other snakes so.... my corns and kings and rosy boa are all in the same.room and I.don't have any.problems (after a 6month quarantine)

nyjon
12-16-13, 10:33 PM
Mbks grow fast! Just thought I'd warn ya :D

:eek:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5498/11413522225_3e851f3ed0_c.jpg

Your milk is probably more used to his environment, while the mbk is still.exploring and figuring out where everything is. My kings are faorly active though, at all times of day.


Additionally (this is only heresay, idk if there is proof) I have heard of other snakes acting more 'nervous' if kings are present, as they can smell the kingsnale and recognize that it is a predator, regardless of size. That being said, milks are in the lampropeltis group as well and caan amd will eat other snakes so.... my corns and kings and rosy boa are all in the same.room and I.don't have any.problems (after a 6month quarantine)

i was wondering if my milk is stressed. ever since i got my king snake he has been musking me ALL THE TIME. he was doing good until i got her. actually this was the first weekend since i got her that he didnt musk me. he has been a real picky eater ever since she came also. maybe there is some truth to that. i hope he gets used to it. what i do now, is if im going to hold any of them, ill hold him first, because she can care LESS. she is definitely a one calm king. she only musked me once while i was taking her out of the box when she was first shipped. other than that, she never tries to flee or bite me or anything. shes enjoys being out. my milk on the other hand -.-


anywho, i tried feeding both (mondays is usually feed time) and both refused to eat. i did upgrade their fuzzies last time so maybe they are still full. i dont see any lumps so maybe they are just on a break.

here is king. shes in blue :rolleyes:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7395/11413538435_5794677bab_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7451/11413537846_e5796ec6bc_c.jpg

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http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5521/11413546114_ca7fe97c26_c.jpg

i mentioned the scales on her nose to the seller when i first got her. he said she might have been rubbing her nose on the plastic tub when she was being shipped. i hope thats true and hopefully she clears up after a few sheds.

nyjon
12-19-13, 09:05 PM
i noticed there was a little bug walking on my mbk and i decided to take some pictures. this thing definately looks like a mite. i last week i picked her up and saw something crawling and didnt think much of it and now i see this again. i should of quarantined her when i got her. i kept her in a container for an hr when i first got her to see if there was anything on her and i didnt see anything on her. i never had an issue with mites until i got my mbk.

i got this snake from ryan beatty from kingsnake.com and it has been nothing but a headache. im so pissed off. i originally bought a male mbk from him. i specifically asked for ALL black king with no pattern and no white. he said he had one male left that was all black. i told him the temperature was in the 30s here in new york so be sure to add a heat pack. he ends up putting 2 heat packs in the box and drops off my snake too late at fedex and missed the last overnight pick up. i tell him the next day the tracking info has not changed since and the snake never came to my house. he calls me and tells me the snake died in the fedex facility. he offers another male snake but tells it has pattern. i said no. i didnt not want a mbk with pattern. he tells me he has a female thats all black. i said ok, please ship her as i didnt care much about he sex, as long as it was all black.

u guys can see the pictures that ive posted and shes clearly no ALL black which i repeatedly told him i didnt want any pattern or white marks. now i have mites. this is the second mite ive seen on her.

how do you guys recommend i treat her? this just pisses me off man. im never buying another snake from that guy again. he said he had a x amount of years in this business with a good reputation and i find that really hard to believe right now...

Starbuck
12-19-13, 09:20 PM
it does look like that could be a mite, but without clear magnification we can't be 100% sure. It could be a dust mite, mite from a dog or cat (if you have any) etc… HOWEVER i would recommend starting a course of mite treatment for BOTH your snakes and their enclosures (look on this forum for more tips on this…).

I will also say that from what i have seen, many MBKs grow out of their pattern and end up as solid black adults.

sharthun
12-20-13, 08:27 AM
it does look like that could be a mite, but without clear magnification we can't be 100% sure. It could be a dust mite, mite from a dog or cat (if you have any) etc… HOWEVER i would recommend starting a course of mite treatment for BOTH your snakes and their enclosures (look on this forum for more tips on this…).

I will also say that from what i have seen, many MBKs grow out of their pattern and end up as solid black adults.

I agree with Starbuck. Definitely a mite! Treat both snakes and enclosures. I found this mite treatment how to link:

Dealing with Snake Mites (http://lllreptile.com/info/library/care-and-husbandry-articles/-/dealing-with-snake-mites/)

nyjon
12-21-13, 05:43 PM
it does look like that could be a mite, but without clear magnification we can't be 100% sure. It could be a dust mite, mite from a dog or cat (if you have any) etc… HOWEVER i would recommend starting a course of mite treatment for BOTH your snakes and their enclosures (look on this forum for more tips on this…).

I will also say that from what i have seen, many MBKs grow out of their pattern and end up as solid black adults.

thanks starbuck. i started treatment today. i went to my local reptile shop and got a bottle of reptile relief and spray both of them. i didnt see any mites on them tonight when i took them out.


this is what confuses me. so far ive seen 2 (one per week). i hope this kills any eggs hanging around their scales. ill spray the substrate tomorrow and let it air out.

I agree with Starbuck. Definitely a mite! Treat both snakes and enclosures. I found this mite treatment how to link:

Dealing with Snake Mites (http://lllreptile.com/info/library/care-and-husbandry-articles/-/dealing-with-snake-mites/)

thanks for your continuous help steve!

i started treating both my lil guys tonight! hopefully these bugs die out soon :unhappy:

sharthun
12-21-13, 05:47 PM
Sure anytime!! ;)



thanks starbuck. i started treatment today. i went to my local reptile shop and got a bottle of reptile relief and spray both of them. i didnt see any mites on them tonight when i took them out.


this is what confuses me. so far ive seen 2 (one per week). i hope this kills any eggs hanging around their scales. ill spray the substrate tomorrow and let it air out.



thanks for your continuous help steve!

i started treating both my lil guys tonight! hopefully these bugs die out soon :unhappy:

nyjon
12-22-13, 08:23 PM
kings first shed was perfect :D

this actually makes me feel like a better owner. after seeing these mites this is a definitely a positive. i cleaned both of my tanks again. while i was cleaning snakes tank somebody was out for a cruise. i figured she might be hungry since she didnt last week as she was blue. moments like these make it worth while. im glad i didnt return her :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7307/11506216343_f0e3892415_c.jpg

she went out for a soak after i sprayer her with reptile relief last night..
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5505/11506162474_3909fbc7ab_c.jpg

this was her today going for hunt lol
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5550/11506171734_f59b030e8a_c.jpg

stuffing her face!
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5477/11506142075_fea4c3b746_c.jpg

EL Ziggy
12-22-13, 08:49 PM
Looking really nice nyj.

sharthun
12-22-13, 09:14 PM
Awesome!! She's beautiful! I would have kept her in a heartbeat!! :)

nyjon
12-23-13, 06:15 PM
Looking really nice nyj.

Awesome!! She's beautiful! I would have kept her in a heartbeat!! :)

thank u guys. snake has been somewhat of a picky eater over the last few weeks. last week both didnt eat. yesterday king demolished her mouse and snake did the same today. he actually struck at it and didnt stop until he was stuffed lol so thats a plus :rolleyes:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3827/11522760723_a26825a77b_c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2855/11522673724_4b20f27bf9_c.jpg

sharthun
12-23-13, 06:50 PM
thank u guys. snake has been somewhat of a picky eater over the last few weeks. last week both didnt eat. yesterday king demolished her mouse and snake did the same today. he actually struck at it and didnt stop until he was stuffed lol so thats a plus :rolleyes:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3827/11522760723_a26825a77b_c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2855/11522673724_4b20f27bf9_c.jpg

Sweet!!!!! :cool:

LiL Zap
12-24-13, 09:54 AM
Milk snake's colors are so vibrant. Great looking snake you have there.

drumcrush
12-24-13, 10:47 AM
So awesome to watch the growth through this thread!

nyjon
01-01-14, 08:07 PM
Thank u gents. Hope everyone had a great new years :)

Time to feed these guys now :D

sharthun
01-01-14, 08:27 PM
Thank u gents. Hope everyone had a great new years :)

Time to feed these guys now :D

Great so far lol! Fed my little beast Darth three days ago and he was out prowling again tonight. :) Fed my Corn tonight.

pdomensis
01-08-14, 11:06 AM
Hey, I saw that someone on this thread bought a snake from Ryan Beatty. I'm looking at a CA king from him. Can anyone tell me how he was to work with, how were his shipping practices, was the animal in good shape, etc. You can send a PM. Thanks.

sharthun
01-08-14, 11:17 AM
Hey, I saw that someone on this thread bought a snake from Ryan Beatty. I'm looking at a CA king from him. Can anyone tell me how he was to work with, how were his shipping practices, was the animal in good shape, etc. You can send a PM. Thanks.


Read post # 53 I would think twice about that decision!

www.ssnakess.com/forums/891057-post53.html

pdomensis
01-08-14, 11:24 AM
I missed that post. Thanks for the info. Any recommendations on breeders for a good Cali?

sharthun
01-08-14, 01:04 PM
I missed that post. Thanks for the info. Any recommendations on breeders for a good Cali?


Maybe someone will share some reputuble king breeders. 3 of us on the forums ordered black milks from Isis reptiles. Highly recommend them. But I don't know if they have any kings available.

isisreptiles@aol.com

thinkbig317
01-08-14, 01:44 PM
Smoking colors!!!

pdomensis
01-08-14, 02:27 PM
Maybe someone will share some reputuble king breeders. 3 of us on the forums ordered black milks from Isis reptiles. Highly recommend them. But I don't know if they have any kings available.

isisreptiles@aol.com

I'll give them a try. Thanks.

nyjon
01-09-14, 03:01 PM
Great so far lol! Fed my little beast Darth three days ago and he was out prowling again tonight. :) Fed my Corn tonight.


nice! snake shed yesterday. still needed help shedding :sorry: i put him a small plastic tub with a wet paper towel and 30 mins later he was done :D idk why he cant shed on his own. the temps should be ok as king was able to shed perfectly fine..



Hey, I saw that someone on this thread bought a snake from Ryan Beatty. I'm looking at a CA king from him. Can anyone tell me how he was to work with, how were his shipping practices, was the animal in good shape, etc. You can send a PM. Thanks.


to keep things simple, i asked for an all black king snake and i received one with a few spots. is it a big deal? probly not, but i am meticulous with details. having said that, the snake came with a scab on her nose (i was told it was from her trying to escape) and possibly mites. i found a few mites in her tank. take from that what you will. she is doing fine now :)

pdomensis
01-09-14, 03:07 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I checked some other reviews and I saw far more good than bad, so I'm crossing my fingers and hoping things go well for me. This little boy should arrive Tuesday. As long as he's healthy I'll be happy.

sharthun
01-09-14, 04:02 PM
Shed training! lol good news though! Mine do well with humid hides on their own. I hardly ever catch them shedding. They wait until i'm gone.


nice! snake shed yesterday. still needed help shedding :sorry: i put him a small plastic tub with a wet paper towel and 30 mins later he was done :D idk why he cant shed on his own. the temps should be ok as king was able to shed perfectly fine..






to keep things simple, i asked for an all black king snake and i received one with a few spots. is it a big deal? probly not, but i am meticulous with details. having said that, the snake came with a scab on her nose (i was told it was from her trying to escape) and possibly mites. i found a few mites in her tank. take from that what you will. she is doing fine now :)

sharthun
01-09-14, 04:03 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I checked some other reviews and I saw far more good than bad, so I'm crossing my fingers and hoping things go well for me. This little boy should arrive Tuesday. As long as he's healthy I'll be happy.

Beautiful snake! good luck and keep us posted!:)

sharthun
02-03-14, 10:09 AM
Well, haven't heard from you in awhile. How's the two snakes doing?;)

pdomensis
02-03-14, 11:01 AM
A quick update on the purchase of my 50/50 cali king from Ryan Beatty. All went well, the little guy is in great shape and has eaten for me three times now with no problems. No mites or any other issues that I can see. The purchase itself was fine, plenty of communication; he had to use a different carrier than originally planned but we worked it out with no troubles. All in all a good experience and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him.

sharthun
02-03-14, 11:04 AM
A quick update on the purchase of my 50/50 cali king from Ryan Beatty. All went well, the little guy is in great shape and has eaten for me three times now with no problems. No mites or any other issues that I can see. The purchase itself was fine, plenty of communication; he had to use a different carrier than originally planned but we worked it out with no troubles. All in all a good experience and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him.

That's great! Post pics of the new one when you can!;)

nyjon
05-31-14, 12:40 AM
look who was waiting for me outside in the driveway.

she escaped in december. i knew she was around somewhere. im glad shes back. i had put away her tank and i set it up again last night. it was that new pet feeling. im glad shes back

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3666/14330661233_5e738dd11c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nQmoj6)20140529_233940 (https://flic.kr/p/nQmoj6) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

nyjon
05-31-14, 01:04 AM
snakeweed is filling up his tank. i had a crawler left in the fridge and i gave that to ratking as a welcome home gift :p i want to get snakeweed something bigger tomorrow hehe :D

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/14308672802_2453ea1d27_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nNpFVd)20140215_164849 (https://flic.kr/p/nNpFVd) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

sharthun
05-31-14, 05:55 AM
look who was waiting for me outside in the driveway.

she escaped in december. i knew she was around somewhere. im glad shes back. i had put away her tank and i set it up again last night. it was that new pet feeling. im glad shes back

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3666/14330661233_5e738dd11c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nQmoj6)20140529_233940 (https://flic.kr/p/nQmoj6) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

Wow, glad you found her!

sharthun
05-31-14, 05:56 AM
snakeweed is filling up his tank. i had a crawler left in the fridge and i gave that to ratking as a welcome home gift :p i want to get snakeweed something bigger tomorrow hehe :D

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/14308672802_2453ea1d27_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nNpFVd)20140215_164849 (https://flic.kr/p/nNpFVd) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

Snakeweed is growing and looking good!

jpsteele80
05-31-14, 09:34 AM
He's beautiful, very vibrant colors

EL Ziggy
05-31-14, 09:40 AM
That's great! I'm really glad you found her.

nyjon
05-31-14, 01:55 PM
Snakeweed is growing and looking good!

He's beautiful, very vibrant colors

That's great! I'm really glad you found her.

thank u :D

updated pictures of snakeweed. took these just now..

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2909/14128137747_5e53425429_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nwsp8R)20140531_153515 (https://flic.kr/p/nwsp8R) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3703/14128041680_82e4bdba22_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nwrUzw)20140531_153349 (https://flic.kr/p/nwrUzw) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3694/14314663765_6edba99d6b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nNWoPF)20140531_153555 (https://flic.kr/p/nNWoPF) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

EL Ziggy
05-31-14, 01:57 PM
Awesome colors and pattern.

sharthun
05-31-14, 04:56 PM
Beautiful Milk snake!!

nyjon
05-31-14, 09:44 PM
thanks guys. im really glad ratking is back. i felt like **** when i saw she wasnt in her tank. im pretty sure she got through where the temperature cable feeds through the tank. i taped that corner up good inside and outside and all 4 corners. i hope to keep both of them for years to come. i love them both :)

nyjon
06-07-14, 06:19 PM
hey guys i have a question. is there that you guys do to keep your snakes cool? the heat is starting to settle in now and my room has been as high as 85deg. i noticed both of them were in their moist hide. my king snake has been in her moist hide for most of the day over the past two days. any thoughts?

thanks <3

sharthun
06-07-14, 08:03 PM
hey guys i have a question. is there that you guys do to keep your snakes cool? the heat is starting to settle in now and my room has been as high as 85deg. i noticed both of them were in their moist hide. my king snake has been in her moist hide for most of the day over the past two days. any thoughts?

thanks <3

I keep our ac themostat set on 72 and use a fan and their cool sides stay about 74 but it's a large front room in the front of house not close to any ac vents. A fan would help I would think.

nyjon
06-10-14, 12:23 PM
Thanks steve

I put the ac in my room and leave it on low so it stays at 75 throughout the day when im not home. Ratking had me concerned because she spent 2 days in her moist hide. She shed yesterday. Looks like she never missed a beat :)

sharthun
06-10-14, 12:27 PM
Thanks steve

I put the ac in my room and leave it on low so it stays at 75 throughout the day when im not home. Ratking had me concerned because she spent 2 days in her moist hide. She shed yesterday. Looks like she never missed a beat :)

That's great! They are surprisingly resilient animals! Post more pics when you get a chance!

Steve

nyjon
06-10-14, 12:35 PM
I will. I was going to yesterday. I checked on her but she was cranky (probably because she was ready to shed) and her belly still had a lump from that huge meal i gave her when i found her, so i left her alone haha. Ill take her out in a few days and get better pics :D

What is the next sized meal after crawlers? They look too small for snakeweed now. I saw he was out lasrnight when i came home. He is never out unless he is hungry and i just fed him 5 days ago lol

sharthun
06-10-14, 12:40 PM
I will. I was going to yesterday. I checked on her but she was cranky (probably because she was ready to shed) and her belly still had a lump from that huge meal i gave her when i found her, so i left her alone haha. Ill take her out in a few days and get better pics :D

What is the next sized meal after crawlers? They look too small for snakeweed now. I saw he was out lasrnight when i came home. He is never out unless he is hungry and i just fed him 5 days ago lol

If I could see a recent pic that would help. Probably weanlings or small adult mice. Just guessing until I can see your snake.

nyjon
06-10-14, 10:17 PM
Just gave snakeweed another crawler and he took it no problems. Crazy how a lil warm weather gets their appetite moving :)

He got picky during the winter and when i introduced ratking into the same room. I love when they eat and shed :D

nyjon
06-12-14, 09:29 PM
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2912/14386789916_a185366b5c_c.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90375153@N02/14386789916/)
Hungry hungry hippo :) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90375153@N02/14386789916/) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

nyjon
06-12-14, 09:38 PM
Check plz! :)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2900/14408826874_d9eaa66fb7_c.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90375153@N02/14408826874/)
Check plz :) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90375153@N02/14408826874/) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

sharthun
06-13-14, 07:20 AM
Check plz! :)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2900/14408826874_d9eaa66fb7_c.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90375153@N02/14408826874/)
Check plz :) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90375153@N02/14408826874/) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

Lookin good! That looks like about the right sized prey for awhile. you could probably move up a size soon.

nyjon
06-13-14, 08:39 AM
Thanks steve! The mice are about 1.5" (not including the tail). Shes less than 1.5ft long. Snakeweed is about 1.5ft but a little thicker than ratking. I wanted to upgrade his meals also or feed him every 3-5 days, but i rather go bigger and stick to every 5 days. They have been eating everything i throw at them since it got warm. Snakeweed shed last month and ratking shed this month. Hopefuly they go on a growth spurt this summer :)

sharthun
06-13-14, 08:50 AM
Thanks steve! The mice are about 1.5" (not including the tail). Shes less than 1.5ft long. Snakeweed is about 1.5ft but a little thicker than ratking. I wanted to upgrade his meals also or feed him every 3-5 days, but i rather go bigger and stick to every 5 days. They have been eating everything i throw at them since it got warm. Snakeweed shed last month and ratking shed this month. Hopefuly they go on a growth spurt this summer :)

Yeah a 5 day schedule is good when they are smaller. They will grow fast!

nyjon
06-30-14, 10:51 PM
mice monday at my house tonite :)

snakeweed took his second hopper like a champ and ratking ate 2 fuzzies. i think i may switch her over to hoppers sometime next month. i think i will feed her 2 fuzzies this month when its feeding time and switch her to hoppers in august. its weird that snakeweed has never contricted any meal and she never did either before i lost her. she must have learned a few tricks when she was loose :) she wraps her meals now before eating. its awesome. i always wanted a constrictor and she is the one lol

sharthun
07-01-14, 06:11 AM
Great news! Cool snakes!


mice monday at my house tonite :)

snakeweed took his second hopper like a champ and ratking ate 2 fuzzies. i think i may switch her over to hoppers sometime next month. i think i will feed her 2 fuzzies this month when its feeding time and switch her to hoppers in august. its weird that snakeweed has never contricted any meal and she never did either before i lost her. she must have learned a few tricks when she was loose :) she wraps her meals now before eating. its awesome. i always wanted a constrictor and she is the one lol

nyjon
07-04-14, 05:36 PM
thunderstorm = photoshoot lol

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14552306346_6d85783433_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oaWnFy)DSCN3189 (https://flic.kr/p/oaWnFy) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2930/14388781659_d3430b24a3_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nVugup)DSCN3240 (https://flic.kr/p/nVugup) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/14572028511_9586336a70_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ocFsoT)DSCN3234 (https://flic.kr/p/ocFsoT) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2899/14574596772_a626dcf08d_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ocUBRf)DSCN3236 (https://flic.kr/p/ocUBRf) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

franks
07-04-14, 05:43 PM
They are such cool snakes. Nice guy you got there.

sharthun
07-05-14, 07:22 AM
Lookin good Jon!!

nyjon
07-08-14, 05:54 PM
locked and loaded!

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2921/14608068352_92c5acd5c6_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ofSaMs)DSCN3258 (https://flic.kr/p/ofSaMs) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Kera
07-08-14, 06:02 PM
Looking good, awesome shot!! :)

sharthun
07-08-14, 08:42 PM
Down the hatch!! :cool:

EL Ziggy
07-08-14, 09:53 PM
Nom nom nom nom.

nyjon
07-19-14, 09:40 PM
fresh from shed :D

25.5" long. ratking also shed, almost at the same time as snakeweed; 2 days apart.


here he is with his kingface on :D

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3845/14508965328_e166e4e0ee_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o77eUC)DSCN3322 (https://flic.kr/p/o77eUC) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3854/14672592936_179be9b518_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/omySGh)DSCN3323 (https://flic.kr/p/omySGh) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

sharthun
07-20-14, 01:08 AM
Beautiful Milk Jon!! :)

nyjon
08-09-14, 07:41 PM
mbk is in shed again :yes:

everyone ate today. i still havent moved them into the new place. im going to build a rack for their tanks tomorrow and then next week move them :)

sharthun
08-09-14, 11:13 PM
mbk is in shed again :yes:

everyone ate today. i still havent moved them into the new place. im going to build a rack for their tanks tomorrow and then next week move them :)

Cool, be sure and post pics after the move! :p

nyjon
08-16-14, 10:24 AM
fresh from shed. 24". idk if she grew 3" or i measured her shed wrong last time but this shed was 24" :D

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3902/14933762941_10e35dc299_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oKDrrp)DSCN3331 (https://flic.kr/p/oKDrrp) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5586/14750177319_c9707f9fe4_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/otqvQ4)DSCN3332 (https://flic.kr/p/otqvQ4) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5553/14750172259_cb9f90409b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/otqujP)DSCN3352 (https://flic.kr/p/otqujP) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3846/14913845196_70ce04b49c_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oHTmA1)DSCN3351 (https://flic.kr/p/oHTmA1) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

had my dog outside with me too

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3839/14750208568_6f291e9d2d_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/otqF7Q)DSCN3392 (https://flic.kr/p/otqF7Q) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

EL Ziggy
08-16-14, 10:35 AM
Nice critters and pictures Jon :)

nyjon
08-16-14, 10:48 AM
thanks zig! my milk snake is in shed also which is why i didnt take him out for a photoshoot lol. he was actually the first one i was going to take out and i saw he was in blue so i left him alone ;)

EL Ziggy
08-16-14, 11:35 AM
They're growing fast Jon :)

SnoopySnake
08-16-14, 11:43 AM
fresh from shed. 24". idk if she grew 3" or i measured her shed wrong last time but this shed was 24" :D


She's really pretty, looks so sleek, I like your dog too! :) Just wanna say sheds aren't really the greatest way to measure them, since they tend to get stretched out in the process.. My snakes only 33" but his sheds are always at least 3', maybe a few inches over.. Here's a good site to measure them with: Serpwidgets - Snake Measurer (http://serpwidgets.com/main/measure)

nyjon
08-16-14, 04:28 PM
hey thank you didnt know there was a program to measure. im going to check it out. here she is all excited


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYehGM1HXQ&feature=youtu.be

EL Ziggy
08-16-14, 07:30 PM
She really gets after it Jon. I love that aggressive feeding response ;)

sharthun
08-18-14, 09:55 AM
Nice shots Jon!

nyjon
09-01-14, 05:58 PM
thanks gentlemen

took out my milk snake today for a small shoot. out of about 60+ pics these were the only ones where he wasnt moving lol

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/15111527842_85ceed99ba_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2mwKu)DSCN3412 (https://flic.kr/p/p2mwKu) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5592/14925243390_ed92d08fef_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oJTLSA)DSCN3420 (https://flic.kr/p/oJTLSA) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3913/15111518572_b022764f7f_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2mtZE)DSCN3421 (https://flic.kr/p/p2mtZE) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15111514782_15910ecf6e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2msSj)DSCN3434 (https://flic.kr/p/p2msSj) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5570/14925231640_986b5b100e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oJTHo1)DSCN3458 (https://flic.kr/p/oJTHo1) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

sharthun
09-01-14, 06:43 PM
Looking good Jon!




thanks gentlemen

took out my milk snake today for a small shoot. out of about 60+ pics these were the only ones where he wasnt moving lol

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/15111527842_85ceed99ba_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2mwKu)DSCN3412 (https://flic.kr/p/p2mwKu) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5592/14925243390_ed92d08fef_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oJTLSA)DSCN3420 (https://flic.kr/p/oJTLSA) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3913/15111518572_b022764f7f_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2mtZE)DSCN3421 (https://flic.kr/p/p2mtZE) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15111514782_15910ecf6e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/p2msSj)DSCN3434 (https://flic.kr/p/p2msSj) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5570/14925231640_986b5b100e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oJTHo1)DSCN3458 (https://flic.kr/p/oJTHo1) by k20jonny (https://www.flickr.com/people/90375153@N02/), on Flickr

EL Ziggy
09-01-14, 10:02 PM
He's growing nicely Jon. Really nice colors too.

nyjon
09-06-14, 03:44 PM
thank you ziggy

here is my girl

6v3RTt-qJ5A

here is my little guy

fOTS1HvVXhw

EL Ziggy
09-06-14, 07:45 PM
Man, they come out for that dinner bell don't they?

sharthun
09-07-14, 09:53 AM
thank you ziggy

here is my girl

6v3RTt-qJ5A

here is my little guy

fOTS1HvVXhw

Very cool Jon!

nyjon
12-07-14, 01:15 AM
Just caught my milk snake escaping. I just came home frim the airport, brushed my teeth and layed down. Then i heard something stumble and there he was lol i need to upgrade my cages :wacky:

EL Ziggy
12-07-14, 09:54 AM
Im glad you caught him Jon. Were you able to block off and secure his escape route? :)

sharthun
12-07-14, 10:02 AM
Yeah they are small living crowbars!!