Red Tail Boa Help!!!

[hunter4life]

So I'm so pissed! The.boa I purchased today.not.only is INVESTED with.mites, but it has a contusion! I'm thinking of taking her to the vet tomorrow maybe to.have her checked (its an exotic vet and I called and.they have delt with snakes) do you guys have any.clue what it could be or the cause? She's super friendly and beautiful I don't want to give up on her or give it back to the neglectful owner! Don't worry she is being.soaked and quarentined in a tank in another room

[hunter4life]

Here is a picture of her and her bump and contusion

[hunter4life]

And the other side

[Starbuck]

For mites I'd just follow directions from other threads on here, but I'ddef recommend a vet for the bump :-/ very weird. Can you describe ot a little bit more? Best of luck I hope you get things sorted!

[hunter4life]

She's been soaking for a few hours, I put her in the tub and rubbed off a lot of the stuck dead mites and she is re soaking now. But yeah I'm thinking vet for her..it looks just bad. It's not hard, it's soft like if puss was in it? And then it's a bit discolured as the photo shows

[Mikoh4792]

Where did you get her from? Did you not ask for current pictures, or ask if she was healthy before purchasing her?

[hunter4life]

I did, she came from my coworker. He said she was healthy and that her mites came back, he said there were only a few but there were a lot! I'd seen pics and I didn't see that of her before, it's not really noticeable till I started taking the dead mites off.

[Mikoh4792]

I did, she came from my coworker. He said she was healthy and that her mites came back, he said there were only a few but there were a lot! I'd seen pics and I didn't see that of her before, it's not really noticeable till I started taking the dead mites off.

I know it's in the past, but if I were taking in an animal from someone in close proximity to me I would have taken a good look in person first.

[hunter4life]

I know I mean I could take her back and get money back (I got her for $60) He says that in a shed or two it should go away. He said his boa has had something like that before and it goes away after a shed or so..I don't even know what it is. Should I at least have her evaluated by a vet? Cause that's what I want to do but don't want to spend $50 if I don't need to with the vet

[Mikoh4792]

I know I mean I could take her back and get money back (I got her for $60) He says that in a shed or two it should go away. He said his boa has had something like that before and it goes away after a shed or so..I don't even know what it is. Should I at least have her evaluated by a vet? Cause that's what I want to do but don't want to spend $50 if I don't need to with the vet

I don't want to tell you what to do, but if it were me, I'd get a full refund. Why would a normal, healthy boa have a reoccurring contusion before each shed? That's not normal. Not only that... it came with mites.

Who knows what the owner's past is with this snake. Very shady.


EDIT: $60...If I were selling a healthy boa female at that size it would be for more than that.

[snakeman879]

Hi I would never sell my female full stop but if I ever had to it wouldent be for 60 I allsothink u should get your money back if you can and put it to a helthy snake. But if you want that one I would probably take her to the vet just to be saffe. All the best

[formica]

while i do agree that you have been ripped off - its clear to me that the person you got her from, has not got a clue, and the worst thing you can do for the snake is take her back to him and get your money back - that said you should discuss with the vet what her long term health needs may be, you dont want to end up spending thousands on vet bills, and it may not be the best thing for the snake either - if you can manage her yourself, then great, if not, find someone who can, just not her original owner!


personally I would take the vet bill to the original owner and ask them to cover it

[hunter4life]

while i do agree that you have been ripped off - its clear to me that the person you got her from, has not got a clue, and the worst thing you can do for the snake is take her back to him and get your money back - that said you should discuss with the vet what her long term health needs may be, you dont want to end up spending thousands on vet bills, and it may not be the best thing for the snake either - if you can manage her yourself, then great, if not, find someone who can, just not her original owner!


personally I would take the vet bill to the original owner and ask them to cover it

I'm going to ask for my money back and keep her. I'm going through the trouble to help her with mites and the vet so obviously I need the money and it seems this person only wants money. He sold her for so low because she had SOME mites (what my coworker told me) and because we are coworkers at BHB. She had two soakings yesterday for 3 hours each and was put in a tank in another room to keep away from my collection. I'm still debating wether to take her to my work and have her stay there and just get a new Boa at the Tinley show in two weeks or keep her and take her to the vet to be evaluated.

[Starbuck]

you work at BHB? and bought this snake from someone who works at BHB?

Are you just soaking her in water, or are you also using a mite treatment? She should REMAIN in a separate room and tank for a quarantine period of 3-9 MONTHS anyways, especially if she has mites and a mystery lesion.

[SnakeyJay]

Omg... seriously?!

[hunter4life]

you work at BHB? and bought this snake from someone who works at BHB?

Are you just soaking her in water, or are you also using a mite treatment? She should REMAIN in a separate room and tank for a quarantine period of 3-9 MONTHS anyways, especially if she has mites and a mystery lesion.

Yes I work there, the snake came from his friend who was holding the boa for my coworker so he really had no control over the boa. But she's a lot better now, her contusion is going away and it seems I've killed all mites. I have mite treatment and.have.been soaking her.so it's a lot better now, she is on another room not near my collection don't worry.

[hunter4life]

And this has nothing to do with my work. So no reason to bring it up please.

[Starbuck]

I'm still debating wether to take her to my work and have her stay there and just get a new Boa at the Tinley show in two weeks or keep her and take her to the vet to be evaluated.

That is why i mentioned your work. You are talking about bringing an animal infested with mites and with a mysterious lesion to your work, where there are THOUSANDS of other snakes. That is a huge risk to your employer, and doesn't demonstrate a lot of responsibility on your part.

I'm glad she seems to be doing better, I would still take her to a vet to get the lump evaluated though.

[hunter4life]

That is why i mentioned your work. You are talking about bringing an animal infested with mites and with a mysterious lesion to your work, where there are THOUSANDS of other snakes. That is a huge risk to your employer, and doesn't demonstrate a lot of responsibility on your part.

I'm glad she seems to be doing better, I would still take her to a vet to get the lump evaluated though.

She wouldn't go there till she had no mites, I know better to not do that. And the lump seems to be an absess or infection on her side so she will be going to get that checked out!

[Robin.M]

She wouldn't go there till she had no mites, I know better to not do that. And the lump seems to be an absess or infection on her side so she will be going to get that checked out!

12 months from the last mite seen is when your snake no longer has mites. Not 2 weeks or a month like a lot of people seem to think.

I would assume you need all the help you can get if BHB is where you get your reptile knowledge (no offense to you, just BHB).

Don't expect anything from the seller. You paid $60 for a sick snake. They aren't going to pay you any money back, and there really is nothing you can do against them unless you have a signed Contractual Agreement for Provision of Goods stating the price you paid, their tax number, and a photo and description of the animal in question.

Mites are taken care of with NIX treatments (look up online), and treat the enclosure with PAM (also look up online). The lump can be looked at by a exotics vet.

Rob

[hunter4life]

12 months from the last mite seen is when your snake no longer has mites. Not 2 weeks or a month like a lot of people seem to think.

I would assume you need all the help you can get if BHB is where you get your reptile knowledge (no offense to you, just BHB).

Don't expect anything from the seller. You paid $60 for a sick snake. They aren't going to pay you any money back, and there really is nothing you can do against them unless you have a signed Contractual Agreement for Provision of Goods stating the price you paid, their tax number, and a photo and description of the animal in question.

Mites are taken care of with NIX treatments (look up online), and treat the enclosure with PAM (also look up online). The lump can be looked at by a exotics vet.

Rob


No reason to say anything about my work, we don't work with Boa's and I didn't get any advice from them besides my coworker telling me to use a little bit of oil on her to suffocate the mites under her scales. I have gotten things under control now though which is good! I've seen no mites today in her soaking bath, but I'm still going to treat her as if she still has them because I don't want mites getting to my other collection. Thank you for the advice though, it is always appreciated!

[Starbuck]

Oil on the scales I s not an effective mite treatment, and neither is water soaks. You need treatment with an actual product (pam, nix, etc) to be sure you are actually getting rid of all life stages, not juat the large adults.

[hunter4life]

Oil on the scales I s not an effective mite treatment, and neither is water soaks. You need treatment with an actual product (pam, nix, etc) to be sure you are actually getting rid of all life stages, not juat the large adults.

I am using mite treatments. But the oil suffocates the mites under her scales and the soaking drowns others. And after her soaking is done she is put in her tank with fresh newspaper and it is sprayed down.

[Aaron_S]

No reason to say anything about my work, we don't work with Boa's and I didn't get any advice from them besides my coworker telling me to use a little bit of oil on her to suffocate the mites under her scales. I have gotten things under control now though which is good! I've seen no mites today in her soaking bath, but I'm still going to treat her as if she still has them because I don't want mites getting to my other collection. Thank you for the advice though, it is always appreciated!

Did you just say BHB doesn't work with boas? If so then that's the funniest thing I've ever read.

Oil is horrible for the snake's health of it's scales. Water treatments don't really work. Tons of eggs I'm sure are left so wait a week or two, you'll have another infestation.

I'm actually starting to doubt you work with BHB....

Use what Rob said. Nix or PAM.

[hunter4life]

Did you just say BHB doesn't work with boas? If so then that's the funniest thing I've ever read.

Oil is horrible for the snake's health of it's scales. Water treatments don't really work. Tons of eggs I'm sure are left so wait a week or two, you'll have another infestation.

I'm actually starting to doubt you work with BHB....

Use what Rob said. Nix or PAM.

I know what we have, it's not extensive like Ball Pythons or any of the colubrids is what I meant. Didn't see that typo.

[hunter4life]

Did you just say BHB doesn't work with boas? If so then that's the funniest thing I've ever read.

Oil is horrible for the snake's health of it's scales. Water treatments don't really work. Tons of eggs I'm sure are left so wait a week or two, you'll have another infestation.

I'm actually starting to doubt you work with BHB....

Use what Rob said. Nix or PAM.


And if you doubt, ask Brian or come to BHB and see me work.

[Aaron_S]

And if you doubt, ask Brian or come to BHB and see me work.

I'm not traveling to Michigan for you. From my knowledge he's got a number of them, and yes it includes all species I'm talking about. You simply said "boas". I saw him at the CRBE up here. Had a chat about his stuff.

Anyway, again, treat mites appropriately.

[hunter4life]

I'm not traveling to Michigan for you. From my knowledge he's got a number of them, and yes it includes all species I'm talking about. You simply said "boas". I saw him at the CRBE up here. Had a chat about his stuff.

Anyway, again, treat mites appropriately.


I am treating them appropriately. And I see him everyday, we work with Red Tails, Columbian and Brazilian Rainbows, Nicaraguan, Kenyans. If you were going to the NARBC in Tinley then you'd see all of us there.

[Aaron_S]

I am treating them appropriately. And I see him everyday, we work with Red Tails, Columbian and Brazilian Rainbows, Nicaraguan, Kenyans. If you were going to the NARBC in Tinley then you'd see all of us there.

I live in Canada. I won't be attending.

You forgot the amazon tree boas as well as his indian sand boas unless he got rid of them.

No, you're not. You're mistreating the snake because you continue to use oil. It's bad for their scales.

[hunter4life]

I live in Canada. I won't be attending.

You forgot the amazon tree boas as well as his indian sand boas unless he got rid of them.

No, you're not. You're mistreating the snake because you continue to use oil. It's bad for their scales.

I used it once? Sam told me to use this way actually. Sorry forgot about the Tree Boas. Why does it seem that you are coming off rude to me?

[Aaron_S]

I used it once? Sam told me to use this way actually. Sorry forgot about the Tree Boas. Why does it seem that you are coming off rude to me?

Cause it's fun.

Sam is wrong.

[hunter4life]

Well if it works then it works. Thanks for being a ****.

[Aaron_S]

Well if it works then it works. Thanks for being a ****.

It doesn't work though! Silly person. I tried telling you about the eggs but you refused to read it.

Enjoy mite farming! Maybe you'll make a business out of it.

Also, good to know the health of your snake comes second to you having to be right! Gold star for you!

[hunter4life]

Clearly you haven't read my other posts? I HAVE mite treatments and have been using them as SAID in my other posts, lord have mercy. Won't be on after this anymore. This place really doesn't bring help to me.

[Robin.M]

Great to know that BHB hires nothing but the best and brightest to take care of their collection....

Rob

[Aaron_S]

Great to know that BHB hires nothing but the best and brightest to take care of their collection....

Rob

To be honest, the best and the brightest wouldn't even apply.

Who makes good money picking up poop for some other guy's collection?

[SnakeyJay]

What a joke... if thats the level of care/knowledge of bhb staff then im disgusted...