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drumcrush
09-11-13, 07:01 AM
I will be releasing my wild caught garter when spring rolls around, so I will have an empty 10gal tank laying around. Any ideas on what to get?? I could use another lizard to eat up some mealworms because I have too many mealworms for one gecko. I would also love another small snake.

sharthun
09-11-13, 07:52 AM
I will be releasing my wild caught garter when spring rolls around, so I will have an empty 10gal tank laying around. Any ideas on what to get?? I could use another lizard to eat up some mealworms because I have too many mealworms for one gecko. I would also love another small snake.

Tangerine Honduran milk snake? I want one of those too! lol

drumcrush
09-11-13, 07:59 AM
Aww man, I would love to get one of those! Sadly, I don't have enough room:/

sharthun
09-11-13, 08:00 AM
Aww man, I would love to get one of those! Sadly, I don't have enough room:/

Lol, yeah they grow fast!

drumcrush
09-11-13, 08:16 AM
I will hopefully get one when I get my own house tho:) and a tegu, I'd love a tegu haha

sharthun
09-11-13, 08:19 AM
I will hopefully get one when I get my own house tho:) and a tegu, I'd love a tegu haha

Tegu's are cool! I don't even want to start with lizards lol. I used to keep Eastern Collard Lizards and miss them! Medusa is growing like a weed! She will outgrow her 20gL soon! lol I'm looking at bigger enclosures already!

drumcrush
09-11-13, 08:31 AM
Tegu's are cool! I don't even want to start with lizards lol. I used to keep Eastern Collard Lizards and miss them! Medusa is growing like a weed! She will outgrow her 20gL soon! lol I'm looking at bigger enclosures already!

Yeah haha, mines growing really fast too, she is about to hit 3 feet. I still remember when she was smaller than a foot. I'm probably gunna build her a new tank instead of buying a new one, those exo terras are too expensive haha

sharthun
09-11-13, 08:50 AM
Yeah haha, mines growing really fast too, she is about to hit 3 feet. I still remember when she was smaller than a foot. I'm probably gunna build her a new tank instead of buying a new one, those exo terras are too expensive haha

Yeah, I thought about building 2 more enclosures but I want to use plastic. Wood works ok but the cleanup and humidity takes it's toll after awhile. I'm looking at maybe getting a 48" wide animal plastic enclosure of some type for medusa.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 09:04 AM
Yeah, I thought about building 2 more enclosures but I want to use plastic. Wood works ok but the cleanup and humidity takes it's toll after awhile. I'm looking at maybe getting a 48" wide animal plastic enclosure of some type for medusa.

I'm afraid to use a heat pad on plastic

sharthun
09-11-13, 09:05 AM
I'm afraid to use a heat pad on plastic

Yeah definitely need a thermostat.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 09:12 AM
Yeah definitely need a thermostat.

Yeah, I will probably just use plexi glass

sharthun
09-11-13, 09:14 AM
Yeah, I will probably just use plexi glass

Yeah great choice! Building your own has it's advantages. I'm getting old and lazy lol. I used to build all of mine.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 09:16 AM
Yeah great choice! Building your own has it's advantages. I'm getting old and lazy lol. I used to build all of mine.

Yeah, I agree.

sharthun
09-11-13, 10:08 AM
Yeah, I agree.


I'm thinking our MBK's will need a 48" wide enclosure lol!

drumcrush
09-11-13, 10:37 AM
I'm thinking our MBK's will need a 48" wide enclosure lol!

Is that the same length as a 40 gal.??

smy_749
09-11-13, 10:42 AM
Whats yo budget mang

sharthun
09-11-13, 10:43 AM
Is that the same length as a 40 gal.??

My 40g that houses my corn snake is 36 inches wide.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 10:49 AM
My 40g that houses my corn snake is 36 inches wide.

Dang, I was off haha

drumcrush
09-11-13, 10:50 AM
Whats yo budget mang

I don't really have a budget, it's just a matter of Savin up money

poison123
09-11-13, 11:06 AM
What about some sort of frog? Pacman.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 11:16 AM
What about some sort of frog? Pacman.

I don't know if I could keep my humidity up for one:/

poison123
09-11-13, 11:29 AM
Just cover the lid.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 11:39 AM
Just cover the lid.

Yeah, that's a good idea

Corey209
09-11-13, 01:08 PM
Indonesian Tree Boa, they're really small.

Indonesia Tree Boa with babies.MOV - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QQzF2GB0Sw)

Mikoh4792
09-11-13, 01:30 PM
Is that the same length as a 40 gal.??

40 gallons are 36x18

drumcrush
09-11-13, 01:50 PM
Indonesian Tree Boa, they're really small.

Indonesia Tree Boa with babies.MOV - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QQzF2GB0Sw)

Never thought about that, I will have to check them out

Mikoh4792
09-11-13, 01:55 PM
Children's or spotted pythons? I've always wanted one

drumcrush
09-11-13, 01:57 PM
Children's or spotted pythons? I've always wanted one

I like those ones too. Erg too many things to choose from haha

Mikoh4792
09-11-13, 02:14 PM
I like those ones too. Erg too many things to choose from haha

Just get em all, like pokemon.

smy_749
09-11-13, 02:30 PM
I don't think a childrens or spotted can be housed in a ten gallon their whole life. 10 Gallon aquariums aren't even really ideal for hatchlings of many species due to the lack of its ability to maintain a decent thermal gradient. Go with something that can be comfy at close to room temp. Amphibian species is my best suggestion honestly.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 02:35 PM
I'm also thinking of a ringneck snake. I know they stay really small

Deva
09-11-13, 04:03 PM
How about a Mandarin Newt? Or two.

Great guys, completely terrestrial, no heat required. Mine beg for food (worms).

Mikoh4792
09-11-13, 04:13 PM
How about a Mandarin Newt? Or two.

Great guys, completely terrestrial, no heat required. Mine beg for food (worms).

What kind of worms do they eat? Is the food cheap?

poison123
09-11-13, 04:14 PM
How about a Mandarin Newt? Or two.

Great guys, completely terrestrial, no heat required. Mine beg for food (worms).

Im not big on newts but I believe those are aquatic.

Hurrok
09-11-13, 04:15 PM
What about a Crested gecko or a Chinese cave gecko? They obviously stay small and I know the cresties are pretty easy to take care of. No additional heat or lamps required (unless it gets really chilly where you live!) Plus they have adorable faces!

Snake-wise Sand boas stay on the smaller side and have good personalities from what I hear. Western Hognose are getting more popular as well. So many choices!

Deva
09-11-13, 05:13 PM
Im not big on newts but I believe those are aquatic.

Nope, they need a large water section for breeding only.

I have had mine on topsoil and a big water dish for over three years and they are doing fine. They eat regular earthwoms, and they can take night crawlers or the smaller red worms. If you have a fish bait store that sells earthworms, you have it made. I buy $5.00 worth every three months. Of course I suppose you can get earthworms delivered from the internet, but that would be more money. They will also eat crickets, which I get at my local pet store - 100 for around the same money. They don't eat that many crickets, but I also have other hungry salamanders and toads.

Just look at the cuties:

http://i.imgur.com/uJaCT.jpg

Deva
09-11-13, 05:17 PM
I would suggest also the Tiger salamander, also completely terrestrial, but one would outgrow the ten gallon eventually. However, if you started with a young one, you could use the ten gallon tank for a couple of years before you would have to move to a 20. Mine is about 8 inches long and I have him in a 20.

drumcrush
09-11-13, 08:10 PM
Nope, they need a large water section for breeding only.

I have had mine on topsoil and a big water dish for over three years and they are doing fine. They eat regular earthwoms, and they can take night crawlers or the smaller red worms. If you have a fish bait store that sells earthworms, you have it made. I buy $5.00 worth every three months. Of course I suppose you can get earthworms delivered from the internet, but that would be more money. They will also eat crickets, which I get at my local pet store - 100 for around the same money. They don't eat that many crickets, but I also have other hungry salamanders and toads.

Just look at the cuties:

http://i.imgur.com/uJaCT.jpg those look pretty cool. would they eat mealworms ???

drumcrush
09-12-13, 06:42 AM
What about a Crested gecko or a Chinese cave gecko? They obviously stay small and I know the cresties are pretty easy to take care of. No additional heat or lamps required (unless it gets really chilly where you live!) Plus they have adorable faces!

Snake-wise Sand boas stay on the smaller side and have good personalities from what I hear. Western Hognose are getting more popular as well. So many choices!

I was thinking about hognoses, I've always wanted one haha and how much humidity would a crested gecko need?

drumcrush
09-12-13, 10:45 AM
Would a scarlet kingsnake be okay in a 10gal? Because they only get to 2-2.5 ft.

sharthun
09-12-13, 11:05 AM
Would a scarlet kingsnake be okay in a 10gal? Because they only get to 2-2.5 ft.

After the small amount of reading I did on the scarlet king snake, it looks like it might be a difficult snake to feed. Looks like it prefers live lizards and may be tough to get one to switch to mice.

drumcrush
09-12-13, 11:09 AM
After the small amount of reading I did on the scarlet king snake, it looks like it might be a difficult snake to feed. Looks like it prefers live lizards and may be tough to get one to switch to mice.

I read the same about hognoses:/

sharthun
09-12-13, 11:25 AM
I read the same about hognoses:/

True that! hoggies are toad eating machines! I always liked ground snakes as well but don't know if you could find any for sale. I used to find lots of them herping in western Oklahoma years ago. Never tried keeping one.

Groundsnake (Sonora semiannulata) - Reptiles of Arizona (http://www.reptilesofaz.org/Snakes-Subpages/h-s-semiannulata.html)

drumcrush
09-12-13, 11:45 AM
Those ground snakes look really cool haha

sharthun
09-12-13, 11:46 AM
Those ground snakes look really cool haha

Yeah I never seemed to find 2 snakes alike. Very cool and laid back as well!

Hurrok
09-12-13, 01:50 PM
I was thinking about hognoses, I've always wanted one haha and how much humidity would a crested gecko need?

I'm getting a Hognose pretty quick here, pretty difficult to get here in Canada without shipping from the east coast. As for feeding you just have to make sure you get one from a reputable breeder that has been eating pinkies steadily. Otherwise how could you resist a cute snake like that! They'll even puff up :p

Cresties are easy, as long as the humidity levels are always above 50% it should be fine. A couple mistings a day will prevent the humidity levels to drop as they need a moderate amount, especially during shedding. Plus these guys like fruit as a staple so you can get the Repashy diet for them to thrive on with mealworms, crickets, or waxworms as treats a few times a week. :)

drumcrush
09-12-13, 07:38 PM
I'm getting a Hognose pretty quick here, pretty difficult to get here in Canada without shipping from the east coast. As for feeding you just have to make sure you get one from a reputable breeder that has been eating pinkies steadily. Otherwise how could you resist a cute snake like that! They'll even puff up :p

Cresties are easy, as long as the humidity levels are always above 50% it should be fine. A couple mistings a day will prevent the humidity levels to drop as they need a moderate amount, especially during shedding. Plus these guys like fruit as a staple so you can get the Repashy diet for them to thrive on with mealworms, crickets, or waxworms as treats a few times a week. :)

Oh sweet! So now ik i will get a crested gecko or a hognoses:)

EL Ziggy
09-12-13, 08:23 PM
I really like those hoggies. If I were looking for a smaller snake that would definitely be my pick. I was concerned about their diets too. If they ate f/t rodents consistently that would be awesome. The tiger hogs are ultra fierce.

drumcrush
09-12-13, 08:26 PM
I really like those hoggies. If I were looking for a smaller snake that would definitely be my pick. I was concerned about their diets too. If they ate f/t rodents consistently that would be awesome. The tiger hogs are ultra fierce.

I think I will have to get that next then:)