View Full Version : Husbandry :Dumeril's vs Redtails
ErikBush97
08-28-13, 04:19 AM
I've been offered a very cheap Dumerils, and I am going to inspect the animals health, along with the others that were offered, before even considering it. They are in absolutely no hurry to sell him, and they asked how many reptiles I've owned, have I own Boas, etc, so they seem.to care about where he's going/his wellbeing, which is great. Do they have similar environmental needs to a Redtail? We are meeting on the 7th, and I am in NO hurry to buy another snake. I have always loved Dumerils, and that's the only reason I am even considering it. Thanks in advanced.
Starbuck
08-28-13, 05:11 AM
I would make sure you have a MINIMUM of 500$ saved for potential vet care for your CURRENT snakes, and an additional 200$ for habitat needs (thermostats, lights, temp guns, etc) in case anything of yours goes. on top of that, you'd need about 100$ to set up your new enclosure, added to the cost of the snake.
further, do you have means to quarantine your new snake? have you quarantines any of your other new snakes? quarantine means separate from EVERY other individual, not just keepin all your new snakes in one room and your old snakes in another.
I dont think you will find anyone telling you to GO GET THAT SNAKE(!!) if that is what you're looking for, but i would make sure at a minimum you have the above covered.
i've not kept a dum, or even a boa, but im sure someone who has will assist you with that part shortly.
Mikoh4792
08-28-13, 06:08 AM
You don't even have thermostats for each of your current snakes. I would make sure the animals you have now are taken care of before acquiring a new animal that will get as big as your two bci, if not bigger.
Edited:
It does not really matter what I think.
Valvaren
08-28-13, 01:03 PM
You haven't OWNED boas. You've had those snakes for a week tops. Honestly? you think you can go around saying "I have experience with boas, I own two!" I await the day when you come back saying you can't keep your animals because you have to go to college and you can take them with you and your parents wont look after them.
smy_749
08-28-13, 01:13 PM
Stick with what you have for now, give them proper care and save some of your money for unexpected expenses. By acquiring so many in such a short period of time when you have little experience, by the time you realize you cannot keep that many, you will most likely already have some issues at the expense of your animals health. Don't get another snake.
smy_749
08-28-13, 01:14 PM
Also, what do you mean you've been 'offered' a dumerils. I see a lot of new keepers using that phrase for when they found something they like locally and want an excuse to get it so they say the keeper offered it to him. I've been keeping reptiles for a lot longer than you have, and I have to say, only a few times have I been 'offered' a reptile by someone I don't know.
Mikoh4792
08-28-13, 01:20 PM
Adding to what other's have already said, you will be much happier by fulfilling the needs of fewer animals and seeing them thrive instead of hoarding a bunch of animals in a short period of time and not having the appropriate husbandry practices in place.
ErikBush97
08-28-13, 04:32 PM
You don't even have thermostats for each of your current snakes. I would make sure the animals you have now are taken care of before acquiring a new animal that will get as big as your two bci, if not bigger.
Good point, man! I'll hold off for a little while until I have what I need for all my animals + another. Plus, I don't have a ton of experience with Boas yet, so that's another reason to wait.
ErikBush97
08-28-13, 04:36 PM
You haven't OWNED boas. You've had those snakes for a week tops. Honestly? you think you can go around saying "I have experience with boas, I own two!" I await the day when you come back saying you can't keep your animals because you have to go to college and you can take them with you and your parents wont look after them.
If I bought both of my Boas with my money, how don't I own them? (I've had my first BCI for almost a month) also, I don't say I have experience. I know I dont! Lol and I start college this September. I already have that kind of stuff planned out. Thanks for the concern, though :) and I have decided to back off for financial reasons.
ErikBush97
08-28-13, 04:39 PM
Also, what do you mean you've been 'offered' a dumerils. I see a lot of new keepers using that phrase for when they found something they like locally and want an excuse to get it so they say the keeper offered it to him. I've been keeping reptiles for a lot longer than you have, and I have to say, only a few times have I been 'offered' a reptile by someone I don't know.
My friend said that another friend wanted to sell some of their Dumerils, and they told their friend about me and they asked if I would be interested in buying one because they're starting new projects, and need room.
smy_749
09-08-13, 10:55 AM
In case anyone is wondering, Erik did get the dumerils. He made a facebook page about reptile awareness that was in his sig before he was banned and I joined it just for giggles. He posted pictures of the new snake to show off to the facebook world :P
Mikoh4792
09-08-13, 10:56 AM
lol. Is he banned forever?
smy_749
09-08-13, 11:09 AM
Would seem that is the case
Mikoh4792
09-08-13, 11:11 AM
Just checked out the page. That's a big snake he's got. Looks big enough to eat small rabbits.
warehouse13fan
09-08-13, 02:57 PM
You haven't OWNED boas. You've had those snakes for a week tops. Honestly? you think you can go around saying "I have experience with boas, I own two!" I await the day when you come back saying you can't keep your animals because you have to go to college and you can take them with you and your parents wont look after them.
Um.. excuse me, but some colleges allow pets in them, I will be bringing mine to college with me after I have graduated, both of them.
Mikoh4792
09-08-13, 02:59 PM
Um.. excuse me, but some colleges allow pets in them, I will be bringing mine to college with me after I have graduated, both of them.
Do dorms even have enough space to house adult boas?
warehouse13fan
09-08-13, 03:05 PM
That depends on the dorm room size, they vary. My class took a field trip to the college near us and the dorm rooms looked large enough, then you have the ones only big enough to hold a mini fridge and two beds. Like I said, they vary.
smy_749
09-08-13, 04:18 PM
Some kids get baller dorms with kitchens and bathrooms and a few bedrooms and what not. My buddies had one. Another friend had a dorm that was like a jail cell, cement walls and humid as all hell. That was the only time I've ever been in a typical dorm in 5 years of college haha
KORBIN5895
09-08-13, 04:34 PM
In case anyone is wondering, Erik did get the dumerils. He made a facebook page about reptile awareness that was in his sig before he was banned and I joined it just for giggles. He posted pictures of the new snake to show off to the facebook world :P
Well that should be interesting. Wanna start a pool to see how long it will be before he has to rehome everything?
smy_749
09-08-13, 07:44 PM
Well that should be interesting. Wanna start a pool to see how long it will be before he has to rehome everything?
I'll take 1 month
Billman
09-08-13, 08:18 PM
In case anyone is wondering, Erik did get the dumerils. He made a facebook page about reptile awareness that was in his sig before he was banned and I joined it just for giggles. He posted pictures of the new snake to show off to the facebook world :P
What is the Facebook page? Be "interesting" to look at nonetheless.
Valvaren
09-08-13, 08:26 PM
Yeah Im interested myself.
smy_749
09-09-13, 05:25 AM
https://www.facebook.com/ReptileAwarenessDay
He checks this thread haha He asked me what he wins if he goes longer than a month haha
KORBIN5895
09-09-13, 07:02 AM
Depends on how much he puts into the kitty and what month he pics .
KORBIN5895
09-09-13, 07:09 AM
Sweet we now have a fb page run by a bunch of kids that haven't a sweet clue what they are talking about! I can totally see how this is going to help the reptile community.
FYI Erik, your pastel salmon is not a redtail. As a matter of fact it probably isn't even a salmon as they're a specific blood line just like a lipstick albino is a specific bloodline.
Valvaren
09-09-13, 08:08 AM
Now he'll just keep them to try and prove a point even if it's at the animals expense.
marvelfreak
09-09-13, 12:27 PM
Now that i seen a picture of Erik it explains a lot. He just your typical smart mouth 12 year old who doesn't know squat, but thinks he know it all.
Billman
09-09-13, 01:07 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ReptileAwarenessDay
He checks this thread haha He asked me what he wins if he goes longer than a month haha
Haha.
Thanks for the link
KORBIN5895
09-09-13, 01:25 PM
Now that i seen a picture of Erik it explains a lot. He just your typical smart mouth 12 year old who doesn't know squat, but thinks he know it all.
This.^^^^^^^
Who's Erik..................
Mikoh4792
09-09-13, 01:57 PM
Who's Erik..................
http://i.imgur.com/1i0NH.gif
warehouse13fan
09-09-13, 06:34 PM
I was 8 when I got my ball python....
Mikoh4792
09-09-13, 07:28 PM
I was 8 when I got my ball python....
http://i.imgur.com/1i0NH.gif
smy_749
09-09-13, 07:35 PM
Now that i seen a picture of Erik it explains a lot. He just your typical smart mouth 12 year old who doesn't know squat, but thinks he know it all.
Bahahahahaha We aren't supposed to talk about PMs but this has come up already lol, but he definately looks like I pictured he would.
Mikoh4792
09-09-13, 07:41 PM
Bahahahahaha We aren't supposed to talk about PMs but this has come up already lol, but he definately looks like I pictured he would.
I thought he'd have glasses and curly hair.
KORBIN5895
09-09-13, 09:10 PM
He was almost pro in the mma so watch your mouth.
marvelfreak
09-10-13, 05:21 AM
He was almost pro in the mma so watch your mouth.
Yeah and i am the Easter Bunny.
smy_749
09-10-13, 05:24 AM
Yeah and i am the Easter Bunny.
Thats a disturbing image.
At least your not the tooth fairy.
marvelfreak
09-10-13, 05:30 AM
Thats a disturbing image.
At least your not the tooth fairy.
Now that would be disturbing.
But just for you.
http://healthkwest.guestengine.com/greggilmore/files/2012/03/tooth-fairy-2-trailer1.jpg
KORBIN5895
09-10-13, 08:54 AM
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/breeding-incubation/101732-sexing-palpating.html
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/breeding-incubation/101732-sexing-palpating.html
ah... I see. I do not know why I bothered reading all of that lol, but I was surprised at the persistent patience of people continuing trying to help the belligerent kid. I think he is really really young (13, 14?) - nobody is perfect, hopefully he will learn and grow up. We have all had our "punk" moments
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