View Full Version : Silly question....but what actually makes a "Tiger"?
Hey retic experts...can someone tell me what actually makes a tiger morph? The reason I ask is that the lateral white patches on my SD are quite elongated compared to my other retics. This seems to be a common visual trait in the tigers I see. However, the back pattern doesn't look anything like what I understand a "tiger" to be. Can someone give criteria or some consistent finding on this? Here's a pic of my SD (blurry, sorry. He wouldn't stop moving). I'm guessing it's just what this guy looks like and nothing more.
http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/mtucker66/IMG_0159_zps7d138702.jpg (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/mtucker66/media/IMG_0159_zps7d138702.jpg.html)
smy_749
08-13-13, 08:05 PM
You've got a new SD morph!!!!!!! (I don't know the answer obviously)
KORBIN5895
08-13-13, 08:55 PM
A mommy tiger and a daddy tiger.
A mommy tiger and a daddy tiger.
Lol...nice :)
StudentoReptile
08-14-13, 06:17 AM
A mommy tiger and a daddy tiger.
Beat me to it.
marvelfreak
08-18-13, 08:18 PM
Still no answer?
Still no answer?
Nope...(tapping fingers on desk)....still waiting :)
marvelfreak
08-20-13, 02:33 AM
So i wonder where all the Retic guys are? Hmmmm After the two boys got killed by that rock python they all just seem to vanish. This suck because i always wonder what made a tiger myself?
slowhite03
08-20-13, 02:45 AM
Tiger Retic is a morph phase of the Reticulate python. These snakes acheive the same impressive size of normal retics but often have a more docile nature. This is a co-dominant gene meaning if you breed this to a normal Reticulate python you will get 50% Tiger Reticulate pythons or if you breed two Tiger Retics together you will get a super form of the Tiger Retic called the Super Tiger. These particular Tiger Reticulate python are also het for Lavender Albino so breed a pair of these together and you will get Albino Super Tigers, Tigers, and possibly normal Retics. You can have fun with these animals.
Retic-page (http://www.aliannaspetworld.com/Retic-page.html)
I'm no retic guy but this shows a lot of them
smy_749
08-20-13, 03:23 AM
Tiger Retic is a morph phase of the Reticulate python. These snakes acheive the same impressive size of normal retics but often have a more docile nature. This is a co-dominant gene meaning if you breed this to a normal Reticulate python you will get 50% Tiger Reticulate pythons or if you breed two Tiger Retics together you will get a super form of the Tiger Retic called the Super Tiger. These particular Tiger Reticulate python are also het for Lavender Albino so breed a pair of these together and you will get Albino Super Tigers, Tigers, and possibly normal Retics. You can have fun with these animals.
Retic-page (http://www.aliannaspetworld.com/Retic-page.html)
I'm no retic guy but this shows a lot of them
That didn't really help ... lol
He's asking what phenotypic characteristics typically classify something as a tiger retic.
He's asking what phenotypic characteristics typically classify something as a tiger retic.
Yes...exactly. What are the visual (phenotypic) characteristics that define a Tiger morph?
Again, as based on my photo (albeit, a crappy photo)...I mentioned the lateral white patches that are horizontally elongated. This seems to be a common visual trait to Tigers, however the dorsal patterning does not "look" like what I understand a Tiger to be. I've just not seen the horizontally elongated white patches in a "normal"....That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. This is a 50% SD, so it may be a commonality for them, I have no idea. I was just wondering if there were any definable visual traits that can be validated...
marvelfreak
08-20-13, 10:00 AM
I found Bob Clark's web site and sent a e-mail these morning and asked him. here the answer i got.
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Bob Clark
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to me
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The tiger trait is a single gene mutation and is produce from breeding tiger to normal.
smy_749
08-20-13, 10:23 AM
I think the problem here, is people aren't understanding MDT's question so we aren't getting an answer, or getting really generic ones haha. If you look at it quickly, it seems like he's just an idiot who doesn't know what a tiger is lolllll
Send him another email asking how the phenotype is affected by the single gene mutation and how much variance is there in it. I know its dominant, but is it possible to look "like it has some tiger in it". Maybe a tiger, but something else going on causing it to display only partially....Are there tiger 'lines' that display the gene better than others?
marvelfreak
08-20-13, 10:48 AM
I think the problem here, is people aren't understanding MDT's question so we aren't getting an answer, or getting really generic ones haha. If you look at it quickly, it seems like he's just an idiot who doesn't know what a tiger is lolllll
Send him another email asking how the phenotype is affected by the single gene mutation and how much variance is there in it. I know its dominant, but is it possible to look "like it has some tiger in it". Maybe a tiger, but something else going on causing it to display only partially....Are there tiger 'lines' that display the gene better than others?
I did one better. I sent him Bob's e-mail so he can ask the exact questions he wants. Hopefully he will share Bob's response.
Pirarucu
08-20-13, 11:02 AM
The back pattern and elongated spotting on the sides. Another characteristic is that the stripe on top of the head does not continue to the nose but stops about where the eyes are.
The back pattern and elongated spotting on the sides. Another characteristic is that the stripe on top of the head does not continue to the nose but stops about where the eyes are.
Thanks Pirarucu....So I would guess his elongated patches are just "him" (so-to-speak)...The stripe on the head does extend to the nose. His back pattern seems pretty normal for a SD. That confirms my suspicion.
Pirarucu
08-21-13, 08:52 PM
Yes, he is a normal SD.
Ivanator
08-27-13, 11:47 PM
The back pattern and elongated spotting on the sides. Another characteristic is that the stripe on top of the head does not continue to the nose but stops about where the eyes are.
^^This. Also the back pattern is usually a solid stripe going all the way down the back or makes a pattern kinda like this -_-_-_. I don't really know how to describe that with words and also they have a horizontal stripe on top of each side between the eyes. If that makes sense.
Pirarucu
09-01-13, 07:57 AM
They have semicircles on each side of the line that goes down their back, which are usually staggered so they aren't just whole circles with a line through them, but they can be in some cases.
That's not the best method of ID until you have more experience differentiating tigers and normals though, as normals can display something similar.
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