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bikerecho
07-24-13, 08:30 AM
hi there forum.

i have a quick question.
i was looking at some snakes online and i keep seeing these number 0.1 and 1.0
an example is "0.1 Graziani pastel"
what does that mean?

also now where i have your expertise on hand:
is a ball python "pastel" more expensive then a standard ball python?
is there anything special with a pastel at all?
i know that pastel is a gene, so does that mean that a Ball Python pastel is a 2 gene snake? standard + pastel?

sorry if it's a dumb question. i am new to snakes

thanks for reading ^^

Mikoh4792
07-24-13, 08:38 AM
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-discussion/84611-what-does-1-1-0-mean.html

Mikoh4792
07-24-13, 08:39 AM
A pastel will be a little more money than a normal. It's a that makes the gold/yellow brighter

dbassa
07-24-13, 08:41 AM
1.0= 1 male
0.1= 1 female
0.0.1= 1 unknown sex

SnakeyJay
07-24-13, 08:49 AM
Pastel is one gene mate :)

BoaBoy91
07-24-13, 08:54 AM
Im still really new in the ball pythons category but i think im correct when i say that a pastel is really just a single gene ball python. A pastel ball python is typically more expensive than a standard ball python because of the high yellows and contrast that the pastel gene has. And from a breeding point of view pastels make a whole lot of cool morphs like a bumble bee which is a pastel x spider.

bikerecho
07-24-13, 10:55 AM
thanks for the help guys. it cleared out a lot.

so my snake is a 0.1 Ball Python pastel. that's good to know.

pdomensis
07-24-13, 11:21 AM
You could always just call it a female. To use the numeric system to me looks a bit pretentious unless you have several animals. :)

formica
07-24-13, 11:56 AM
wondered this too, I assumed it was something more useful like the age lol :rolleyes: whats wrong with ♂ and ♀ ...?

bikerecho
07-24-13, 12:23 PM
yeah.. or just F/M

bcr229
07-25-13, 09:51 AM
I imagine it's useful for breeders when describing clutches, since it's faster to type or write 2.3.1.6 instead of 2 males, 3 females, 1 unsexed, and 6 eggs.

poison123
07-25-13, 09:54 AM
If you see a fourth number it means how many eggs you have. Though a lot of people don't use it.

Edit: I see it was already said^^^

desipooh.12
07-25-13, 10:03 AM
I've always wondered this to, so now I know,
Well I already knew about the pastel part lol.

bikerecho
07-25-13, 11:49 AM
i am learning a lot on the forum so far. thanks.
i just feed my snake for the first time today. surprising how fast it swallowed the mouse.

desipooh.12
07-25-13, 02:07 PM
Thursdays are feeding day for my brb as well!

Chris72
07-25-13, 04:12 PM
A normal (you called it standard) is what is found in nature almost all the time. Since nearly the middle of the last century when people have found naturally occouring genetic mutations (often never seen before) these animals became the focus of breeding projects. (To prove the visual mutation was genetic) In addition various mutations have come about by combining those natural mistakes (for lack of a better term) to create even more spectacular animals. (Eg mojo x mystic for mystic potion)

This gave way to combining genetic "ingredients" over generations of animals to arrive at true designer aminals.

Every type of designer BP (M or F... Single gene or multi) is more money than a normal. That cost is sometimes heavily based in the look of the animal, of it if also based in the economic potential of the animal from a breeding perspective.

For example:

P-Lesser (visual pastel-lesser) that is 100% double het for two other genes)

Het is short for heterozygous
It means the snake is heterozygous (carrying but not expressing) the genetic traits.

That animal is worth more that a P-Lesser, and the P-Lesser is worth more than a pastel, and your pastel is worth more than a normal. (Because of the look and the potential.

bikerecho
07-26-13, 10:11 AM
thanks for the reply. ^^