Princess Diamond Boa Reproduced!!!

[simpleyork]

thought that this was cool as they live just down the street from me!!!
Leutistic Boa Constrictor!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=554463121267166

[Mikoh4792]

Pretty cool. I would still take a normal one over that.

[sweatshirt]

Woah... want! :p

[simpleyork]

I too am more keen on normals over the morphs, but it is cool that it was proven out.
last I read he was advertising possible hets. for $35,000 not sure if that was what he was getting though.

[Mikoh4792]

$35,000

Wowwwwwwwwwww :shocked:

[KORBIN5895]

I too am more keen on normals over the morphs, but it is cool that it was proven out.
last I read he was advertising possible hets. for $35,000 not sure if that was what he was getting though.

He was getting $15,000 for normals and $25,000 ( maybe just 20k) for motleys.

The saddest part is that it is a completely dead end morph

[Lickeypie]

Wow, so pretty!

[MrCaveman]

I wonder how many years it will take until the price drops when normal people can afford one. I also wonder if its possible to get a blue eyed version, which would be more awsome.

[smy_749]

I wonder how many years it will take until the price drops when normal people can afford one. I also wonder if its possible to get a blue eyed version, which would be more awsome.

Depends on what you mean by normal person. Also depends on how many people start producing them. If nobody does it, then the price will never come down.

[Will0W783]

That is stunning!!! *drool*

[MrCaveman]

Depends on what you mean by normal person. Also depends on how many people start producing them. If nobody does it, then the price will never come down.
I mean like something under $500 maybe under $1,000

[smy_749]

10 years is my guess , maybe 15

[Robin.M]

Such a dead end when it comes to breeding. It's a white snake, can't see pattern through it, can't have a super form, and doubt adding colour mutations into it will affect the colour.

Beautiful animal in its own right, but for the price tag that will be on it, I think I'll wait 20 years or so.

Rob

[TeaNinja]

i am super jealous.

[BrasilBoa55]

Hi,folks! I live in Brazil and just now, one of the most famous programs showed a reporting saying that the Jeremy Stone’s Princess diamond was actually trafficked from Brazil, as repeatedly stated in this forum. Some people have already been arrested and was ordered the JS prison. He toke his facebook off the air. What next?
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A million dollars may be the price of a snake. The animal that worth this fortune carries wealth in own name: Princess Diamond. A very rare boa. The only one in the world with a completely white skin and black eyes. It’s the darling of the American Jeremy.
“It’s really hard to describe what I personally fell for Princess Diamond” says the American.
He loves to show off the animal in videos and photos on the internet. But he prefers to hide the past and present of the invaluable snake, which is missing now.
The answers to the disappearance of Princess Diamond can be here in Brazil. In 2006, the white snake was found in the woods, in Rio de Janeiro and taken to the Niterói Zoo.
Researchers found out that the boa constrictor has a rare genetic mutation called leucism. "It would be the first boa in the world to register that pattern", explains Anibal Melgarejo, a biologist at the Instituto Vital Brazil.
Light skin and black eyes. The little snake became famous, appeared on TV. But it was never shown to visitors. "It's never been on display. As I remember, it never stayed on display at the zoo", said Thiago Muniz, a veterinarian.
Thiago Muniz, who worked at the zoo, questioned the manager of the zoo, Giselda Candiotto, about the snake.
"She said that she would take the animal home and, a few months later, we were informed that the animal died", said Thiago.
In 2011, the zoo was closed for mistreatment of animals. At that time, it was also observed that some animals were missing, among them the rare boa.
IBAMA and the Federal Police began to investigate and came across the videos and photos of Jeremy, all available on the internet.
"In 2010, he began to post a video of a boa constrictor leucistic too, adult already. And then we started to think that it was quite a coincidence and started to investigate further and came to the conclusion that it was the same animal", says Carlos Magno Abreu, environmental analyst of IBAMA.
Jeremy is one of the largest snake breeders of the United States. According to investigators, he came to Rio in 2007 to negotiate the purchase of the snake with the manager of the zoo.
The transaction would have been completed in 2009 when Jeremy would have taken the animal illegally from Brazil across the border of Roraima and Guyana.
In Giselda’s house, police found photos of her and her husband with Jeremy in the United States. It still remains to be clarifying the value that the former manager would have received for the sale.
"We estimate somewhat around US$ 1 million, that was paid for this animal," says Carlos Magno Abreu.
"It ends up being an animal of a very high value to these people because of the possibility of crossing this animal," says Thiago.
Exactly what Jeremy would have done. "The first puppies were sold in the range of US$ 60,000. There are puppies of US$ 35 thousand, US$ 25 thousand", reveals Franco Perazzoni, Federal Police.
A snake just like the Diamond Princess, that would be her granddaughter, ended up in Italy. "There's a video of Jeremy, he goes to Italy and he goes there to see a snake that would be the Diamond Princess’ granddaughter, this animal that he had there", says Franco Perazzoni.
"It spends a few years, I showed this guy the Princess Diamond. He decided to buy a couple of pups and reproduce the white snake. What an amazing experience for me!", says Jeremy in the video. Giselda and her husband, José Carlos Schirmer, were arrested last week and will respond for international animal trafficking, smuggling and misappropriation.
In the United States, the police searched the Jeremy’s home, but didn’t find the Diamond Princess.
"The information we have is that it has already died twice. The first time in Brazil and now Jeremy says it would have died in January and does not present a carcass, nothing", says Franco Perazzoni, Federal Police.
His arrest was ordered by the Brazilian authorities. We contact Jeremy by e-mail, he says he will not answer questions from the press and completed saying it was instructed not to talk about the case. The former manager of the Niterói Zoo also refused talking.
"The biggest interest we have in concern to this investigation is the repatriation of the genetic heritage, that are the snakes. It’s an animal caught in the wild, then it belongs to the Brazilian State", conclude Franco Perazzoni, Federal Police.
And the search for the US$ 1 million snake continues.

[Jendee]

thats a crock lol So its stating that jeremy stone stole the animal from a zoo?? and that he claims the animal is dead?? he posts that animal all over the net everyday lol and all its babies. I know several people who have invested in this project is very much alive and out in the open..not some covert operation! Im so confused by these claims

[BrasilBoa55]

WTF!!! Searching for more info about Jeremy Stone's Lucy, I found a digital book on Amazon (The story of Boitatá Operation and "Princess Diamond" - The One Million Dollar Snake) which has all the details about the princess diamond story. I’ve just read it and there are many cool info and jpgs. It’s just like a movie! Now, it became really hard to believe in JS! WTF!!! For those who still think that JS is innocent, go to Interpol wanted people!!! The Brazilian police may be corrupt, but also Interpol???

[Aaron_S]

thats a crock lol So its stating that jeremy stone stole the animal from a zoo?? and that he claims the animal is dead?? he posts that animal all over the net everyday lol and all its babies. I know several people who have invested in this project is very much alive and out in the open..not some covert operation! Im so confused by these claims

You should do some research before saying it's a crock.

Just because someone thinks they got away with things and posts it everywhere doesn't mean they are safe. I'm inclined to believe Interpol and if it's all true, Jeremy is a scumbag.


Follow this link.
http://www.interpol.int/Wanted-Perso...%29/2013-18819

STONE, JEREMY D.
Wanted by the judicial authorities of Brazil for prosecution / to serve a sentence
Identity particulars
Present family name : STONE
Forename : JEREMY D.
Sex : Male
Date of birth : 29/04/1974 (39 years old)
Place of birth : United states
Language spoken : English
Nationality : United states
Charges Published as provided by requesting entity
Charges :

International trafficking of wild animals
If you have any information please contact
Your national or local police
General Secretariat of INTERPOL
This extract of the Red Notice has been approved for public dissemination

[simpleyork]

interesting, he lives not too far from me. bought a ball python from him a few years back

[Ddub]

Aaron I tried that link and it wasn't working. I also searched his name on interpol's site which came back with nothing. There are a few things on both sides of this story that are suspect.

[Aaron_S]

Aaron I tried that link and it wasn't working. I also searched his name on interpol's site which came back with nothing. There are a few things on both sides of this story that are suspect.

Yup it doesn't work anymore. Here's something someone who works in fraud pulled up though. I do believe, where there's smoke, there's fire.

[REPORTS] 2013 - warrant issued by Interpol. Wanted by the 2nd Criminal Court of Roraima State, for international animal trafficking. Oct 2013 - charged by the Federal Public Prosecutor of Roraima for alleged wildlife and environment crimes, theft, smuggling, and procedural fraud relating to illegal exportation and sale of a rare snake (USD1m).
Last Name: STONE Category(2): INDIVIDUAL
First Name: Jeremy D Subcategory:
World-check Keyword(s):
INTERPOL
Alias(es):
Alternative Spelling:
Title: Position:
DOB: 1974/04/29
Age: 39 Deceased:
Place of Birth:
Passport(s):
SSN:
Identification Number(s):
Citizenship(s):
USA (US)
Location(s):
BRAZIL

[simpleyork]

just talked to one of his neighbors, they had no clue whats going on but she said she'll talk to someone who worked for him,
when you go to the interpol site click on "wanted persons" type in his last name and bam!!! he pops up.

[Jendee]

There are alot of things in this article that are simply not true and weird lol why anybody is believing any of this is beyond me
I heard the animal that this women claims to have had was female, jeremys is male. And he purchased the boa from this women..
the article also claims the police went looking for it and searched his facility, this animal is not in any way "hidden" nor the score of hets it has produced.This project is in no way secretive. He has not disappeared from social media either. This guy brasilboa has signed up for a ton of forums with only 1-2 posts the same exact post about jeremy in ever forum copy and pasted. the article then the wtf??! post the whole thing is extremely fishy. There is a personal reason this guy is spreading this article every where trying to make jeremy out to be the bad guy he just plain isnt! Jeremy is a good guy, his family is pretty inspiring as well. Jeremy bought a hot boa, that could have happened to anybody doesnt at all make him a criminal

and Id like to add that Im pretty sure its against the law for brasil to come here and search jeremys place there are jurisdiction laws, they would have to get permission from our government to follow this legal matter iin our country. Which makes this article even more shifty bc they obviously didnt knock on his door. Also they claim he paid a million dollars or is that the price tag brasil is putting on it now that there is zoo has been shut down?? Now that the gene proved out and they see how much the project is worth..coincidence and if he did pay that much money there would be record of it, and I highly doubt he did. There are pictures floating around I guess too of jeremy and this women in the usa.. its all speculation its all he said she said. Nothing that will hold up to anything substantial. Nothing that will change the way people look at Jeremy bc it is very much a crock as I originally said.

[Jendee]

WTF!!! Searching for more info about Jeremy Stone's Lucy, I found a digital book on Amazon (The story of Boitatá Operation and "Princess Diamond" - The One Million Dollar Snake) which has all the details about the princess diamond story. I’ve just read it and there are many cool info and jpgs. It’s just like a movie! Now, it became really hard to believe in JS! WTF!!! For those who still think that JS is innocent, go to Interpol wanted people!!! The Brazilian police may be corrupt, but also Interpol???

are you the author of that book?? trying to make sales?? your spamming the whole net. there is something more going on here..

[Aaron_S]

There are alot of things in this article that are simply not true and weird lol why anybody is believing any of this is beyond me
I heard the animal that this women claims to have had was female, jeremys is male. And he purchased the boa from this women..
the article also claims the police went looking for it and searched his facility, this animal is not in any way "hidden" nor the score of hets it has produced.This project is in no way secretive. He has not disappeared from social media either. This guy brasilboa has signed up for a ton of forums with only 1-2 posts the same exact post about jeremy in ever forum copy and pasted. the article then the wtf??! post the whole thing is extremely fishy. There is a personal reason this guy is spreading this article every where trying to make jeremy out to be the bad guy he just plain isnt! Jeremy is a good guy, his family is pretty inspiring as well. Jeremy bought a hot boa, that could have happened to anybody doesnt at all make him a criminal

and Id like to add that Im pretty sure its against the law for brasil to come here and search jeremys place there are jurisdiction laws, they would have to get permission from our government to follow this legal matter iin our country. Which makes this article even more shifty bc they obviously didnt knock on his door. Also they claim he paid a million dollars or is that the price tag brasil is putting on it now that there is zoo has been shut down?? Now that the gene proved out and they see how much the project is worth..coincidence and if he did pay that much money there would be record of it, and I highly doubt he did. There are pictures floating around I guess too of jeremy and this women in the usa.. its all speculation its all he said she said. Nothing that will hold up to anything substantial. Nothing that will change the way people look at Jeremy bc it is very much a crock as I originally said.

You're blindly defending Jeremy because he's a friend or a "big guy" and they can do no wrong, right?

Go to the interpol website yourself. Click on wanted persons and type in "Stone, Jeremy" and he pops up. The only one. For guess what? Trafficking wild animals! Guess what Nation wants him? Brasil!!!

Until proven otherwise I wouldn't quite dismiss it as a "crock".


I'm sure interpol is nothing substantial. :rolleyes:

[formica]

innocent until proven guilty eh.

[shaunyboy]

You're blindly defending Jeremy because he's a friend or a "big guy" and they can do no wrong, right?

Go to the interpol website yourself. Click on wanted persons and type in "Stone, Jeremy" and he pops up. The only one. For guess what? Trafficking wild animals! Guess what Nation wants him? Brasil!!!

Until proven otherwise I wouldn't quite dismiss it as a "crock".


I'm sure interpol is nothing substantial. :rolleyes:


imo theres no arguing with the info on interpols official site,its all there for folk to read

cheers shaun

[Ddub]

imo theres no arguing with the info on interpols official site,its all there for folk to read

cheers shaun

Interpol doesn't guarantee the accuracy of their information. They function as an administrative liaison between member countries. They provide database and communication assistance to make it easier for different countries to work together. They don't even arrest people. The info they have posted is what Brazil gave them. They believe it to be reliable but there's no guarantee that the info isn't false.

I also don't believe they actually stated it was a female that they lost. As I understood it, the words in Portuguese used to describe the snake were feminine in nature but could be used to describe both "she" or "it". Couple that with the name princess diamond and you can see how an e-translator would designate it as "she". Could be wrong on that as Portuguese is not my forte.

[Aaron_S]

Interpol doesn't guarantee the accuracy of their information. They function as an administrative liaison between member countries. They provide database and communication assistance to make it easier for different countries to work together. They don't even arrest people. The info they have posted is what Brazil gave them. They believe it to be reliable but there's no guarantee that the info isn't false.

I also don't believe they actually stated it was a female that they lost. As I understood it, the words in Portuguese used to describe the snake were feminine in nature but could be used to describe both "she" or "it". Couple that with the name princess diamond and you can see how an e-translator would designate it as "she". Could be wrong on that as Portuguese is not my forte.

You're correct.

Interpol is just another tool. It's a legitimate tool that Countries all over the world use though.

As I stated earlier, it's something there of substance that this person from Brazil isn't plainly lying. Sure there could be inaccuracies but I still believe there's something here.

Also, for those saying Jeremy hasn't stopped his daily normal activity and that means he's innocent. I'd say that any lawyer would tell him to do just that! If he all of a sudden disappears then it's not far off that he feels guilty for something and it's a simple leap forward from there.

[Jendee]

Im not saying there isnt a warrant for his arrest. All I'm saying is he purchased stolen property which in our country is just a misdemeanor. Whos to say he even knew it was stolen. Whos to say it was actually stolen to begin with. That zoo was shut down for ill treatment of their animals now suddenly they have a million dollar snake that has been stolen, seems legit... keep in mind this was yrs ago and they are just now sqauking about it. This yr the first blue eyed off spring appeared..tada!! motive?? maybe
none of this is anybodys business and it doesnt really affect anything, maybe jeremy cant visit brasil for now but there is nothing brasil could do if they wanted too from here. All of this is here say without real proof ie paper trail, transactions, and DNA. People have spent yrs in prison to be found innocent, just because an accusation is out there doesn't make it true. Im not in anyway friends with Jeremy we have spoken once or twice (specifically over another thread when I was told he had a problem with me) Jeremy has done ALOT for the boa industry and he is being dragged through the mud over some story that nobody really knows anything about.
Is the warrant for illegally bringing the animal over here or for stealing it?? if it was for illegally bringing it over here and if everybody is having a fit over that part specifically I kinda giggle bc most of the exotics we have today were originally illegally brought over here right?? Idk is it that big of a deal I think not?? we all have ran that red light before?? jay walked??
I personally dont think the man stole it from a zoo or this lady. There is obviously way more to this story.

[Aaron_S]

Im not saying there isnt a warrant for his arrest. All I'm saying is he purchased stolen property which in our country is just a misdemeanor. Whos to say he even knew it was stolen. Whos to say it was actually stolen to begin with. That zoo was shut down for ill treatment of their animals now suddenly they have a million dollar snake that has been stolen, seems legit... keep in mind this was yrs ago and they are just now sqauking about it. This yr the first blue eyed off spring appeared..tada!! motive?? maybe
none of this is anybodys business and it doesnt really affect anything, maybe jeremy cant visit brasil for now but there is nothing brasil could do if they wanted too from here. All of this is here say without real proof ie paper trail, transactions, and DNA. People have spent yrs in prison to be found innocent, just because an accusation is out there doesn't make it true. Im not in anyway friends with Jeremy we have spoken once or twice (specifically over another thread when I was told he had a problem with me) Jeremy has done ALOT for the boa industry and he is being dragged through the mud over some story that nobody really knows anything about.
Is the warrant for illegally bringing the animal over here or for stealing it?? if it was for illegally bringing it over here and if everybody is having a fit over that part specifically I kinda giggle bc most of the exotics we have today were originally illegally brought over here right?? Idk is it that big of a deal I think not?? we all have ran that red light before?? jay walked??
I personally dont think the man stole it from a zoo or this lady. There is obviously way more to this story.

Smuggling is smuggling. You do know Tom Crutchfield was found guilty of this right? Others have been too.

It isn't nothing. It IS a big deal to some.

Think of it this way, if Brazil had that animal still and re-homed it to the Sao Paulo Zoo (from my understanding a well reknowned one) then they could be making bank with tourism on it!

If he just purchased stolen property then he has to return it. He loses his money or has to sue the person he paid.

He can't go anywhere if there's an International warrant for his arrest for smuggling! LOL. Why would another Country allow him entry with that kind of charge? Innocent or not I wouldn't be taking my chances with him in my Country.

I can't really comment on the issues with International law and what this would fall under but I doubt he'd be slapped with a misdemeanour. I think Brazil would want something done too according to their law since the whole thing started there.

[simpleyork]

Brother, sister allegedly smuggled rare boa constrictor into US | ksl.com (http://www.ksl.com/?sid=28293702&nid=148&title=brother-sister-allegedly-smuggled-rare-boa-constrictor-into-us&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-2)

[KORBIN5895]

Well I'm not surprised at all....