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Concept9
07-11-13, 05:44 AM
So, I have a long range project of breeding Sharp Sunglows with the hope of having Jungle and/or Super Jungle Sharp Sunglows.

I just got a line on a male Hypo. He is a Columbia Salmon Jungle. My problem is that I'm not that good with morphs YET.

Could some of you more knowledgeable people have a look and let me know if this morph is accurate please ?

OH, he will be bred to a female Sharp Sunglow.

Thanks in advance. :)

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http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y424/adorian1000/KGrHqRrgFGyORlmLJBR3MWNyNQ48_20_zpse01837eb.jpg (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/adorian1000/media/KGrHqRrgFGyORlmLJBR3MWNyNQ48_20_zpse01837eb.jpg.ht ml)
marvelfreak
07-11-13, 07:47 PM
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She breeds and knows more about Boa morphs than any one i know.
Mark Taylor
07-12-13, 01:47 AM
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She breeds and knows more about Boa morphs than any one i know.

She don't come on here much but she is on facebook I believe ;)
smy_749
07-12-13, 04:25 AM
Your wife is gonna kill you mate
Mark Taylor
07-12-13, 04:26 AM
Your wife is gonna kill you mate

Who me? :D
smy_749
07-12-13, 04:27 AM
No haha MBK is building quite the collection. Your wife probably already attempted to kill you for having 20 boas in the house lol
Mark Taylor
07-12-13, 04:41 AM
No haha MBK is building quite the collection. Your wife probably already attempted to kill you for having 20 boas in the house lol

I thought you was on about Jendee lol.

She was cool, stopped talking to me for a while then started talking to me:hmm: so I will have to get more lol.

Sorry MBK for taking it of track;)
KORBIN5895
07-12-13, 06:09 AM
It's definitely a hypo. What is the age and what do you have to pair it with?
Ddub
07-12-13, 06:29 AM
That's a hypo and could very likely be a jungle, but there are abberant lines of hypos that can resemble jungles with the zig zag pattern. As for being from Rich Isles salmon line who knows. Who is the seller? Can they provide you with pictures of the parents? Personally, if your goal is sunglows or jungle sunglows I'd pass on it if its not at the very least het for albino, otherwise you won't make sunglows on your first breeding, just more hypo jungles (and supers) that are het for albino.
KORBIN5895
07-12-13, 06:44 AM
I totally missed the salmon jungle Part. I'm not sure about the jungle part but I'm pretty sure it's not a salmon. Like ddub said salmon is a specific blood line and a lot of people claim their hypo is a salmon but they red and pink pigmentation.
Concept9
07-15-13, 10:07 AM
Your wife is gonna kill you mate

I know. :)
Concept9
07-15-13, 10:10 AM
That's a hypo and could very likely be a jungle, but there are abberant lines of hypos that can resemble jungles with the zig zag pattern. As for being from Rich Isles salmon line who knows. Who is the seller? Can they provide you with pictures of the parents? Personally, if your goal is sunglows or jungle sunglows I'd pass on it if its not at the very least het for albino, otherwise you won't make sunglows on your first breeding, just more hypo jungles (and supers) that are het for albino.

Thanks mate, I going to pass on it.

They have no papers on it and it came from pet store.

Thanks for the input guys.
Concept9
09-12-13, 02:39 PM
Ok, so Im back to this snake and have more pics, LOL. I really like this guy and am think about it again. :)

Now that we have confirmed he is a Hypo and not a salmon. Does anyone know if he is a jungle or just a kool Hypo pattern ?

EDIT: I found out he is approx.,. 3 years old and about 5ft long. Looks a lil fat to me too.


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Ddub
09-12-13, 08:30 PM
My advice the first time around still stands, but if you really want him then get him. If it were me I'd be gunning for a male with all three genes since your female is only a sunglow. That way you would have visual jungle sunglows in the first breeding instead of having to wait 3-4 years for hets to grow to maturity.
Btw- Salmon is hypo. It's a particular line of hypo.
Ddub
09-12-13, 08:40 PM
Think about it this way; if you got that one (and it is in fact a jungle) and bred it to your sunglow the best you could hope for with offspring is a jungle hypo (or possible super) het for albino. That's basically what this guy is minus the het albino. Wouldn't it be worth it to hold out for a similar male that's already het albino and save 3-4 years?
Ddub
09-13-13, 06:38 AM
Now that we have confirmed he is a Hypo and not a salmon. Does anyone know if he is a jungle or just a kool Hypo pattern ?

How did you confirm it was not a salmon but remain unable to confirm the jungle part? Seems like the person who produced him is the only person that could confirm anything and they would be able to confirm both.
Concept9
09-13-13, 08:02 AM
True that, I guess we will never truly know.

But if he is in fact a jungle I could . . .

Hypo (Salmon) Jungle x Sharp Albino = Sharp Sunglow (possible Sharp Jungle Sunglow) :)
Ddub
09-13-13, 08:20 AM
True that, I guess we will never truly know.

But if he is in fact a jungle I could . . .

Hypo (Salmon) Jungle x Sharp Albino = Sharp Sunglow (possible Sharp Jungle Sunglow) :)

This is incorrect as albinism is a recessive gene and both parents have to have it for it to be visually expressed in offspring.

Hypo (Salmon) Jungle x Sharp Albino =
Normal het albino
Hypo het albino
Jungle het albino
Hypo jungle het albino

If she were a sunglow the results would be the same except you may have some super hypos in there but there will be NO albinos or sunglows, only hets. This is why I suggested holding out for a hypo jungle het albino.
Concept9
09-13-13, 08:28 AM
DOH, forgot about the Hypo Het Albino part, LOL, kinda important. :)