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ErikBush97
07-05-13, 07:48 PM
Hey, everyone. I have never tried to sex a snake on my own, but I've seen people do it in person and on videos, and even how-to's on sexing snakes. Obviously that's a lot different than hands-on experience, but I really want to sex my new corn snake named 'Yeti' but I don't want to hurt it. I can take it to a place out in Tigard, Oregon that does it for free but I am about an hour a way from them in a car, and about 2 and a half hours away on a bus. So really... I could just wait awhile and try to find a ride. I am not going to do something that's potentially dangerous to my snake unless I get clearance from people who've actually done it. Btw, I know to look for hemipenes and all that good stuff, I am just scared to try it.

smy_749
07-05-13, 07:50 PM
Hey, everyone. I have never tried to sex a snake on my own, but I've seen people do it in person and on videos, and even how-to's on sexing snakes. Obviously that's a lot different than hands-on experience, but I really want to sex my new corn snake named 'Yeti' but I don't want to hurt it. I can take it to a place out in Tigard, Oregon that does it for free but I am about an hour a way from them in a car, and about 2 and a half hours away on a bus. So really... I could just wait awhile and try to find a ride. I am not going to do something that's potentially dangerous to my snake unless I get clearance from people who've actually done it. Btw, I know to look for hemipenes and all that good stuff, I am just scared to try it.

What do you have to benefit by knowing the sex?

ErikBush97
07-05-13, 07:52 PM
What do you have to benefit by knowing the sex?

I may want to breed at some point. I am just starting so no time soon, but eventually I may want to breed. Don't want to try and breed two females or two males LOL

CK SandBoas
07-05-13, 07:56 PM
It's also beneficial to know the sex of your snake in case you decide to sell it. I would definitely have it done by someone who is experienced in popping or probing, as sometimes inexperience in doing it can lead to false results or even damage to the animal.

ErikBush97
07-05-13, 07:59 PM
It's also beneficial to know the sex of your snake in case you decide to sell it. I would definitely have it done by someone who is experienced in popping or probing, as sometimes inexperience in doing it can lead to false results or even damage to the animal.

That's exactly why I am scared to do it on my own. Where can I get experience/lessons on popping? I plan to breed my BP one day and many other reptiles, and popping is definitely something I am going to need to know how to do. I am 16 so I don't drive (neither does anyone in my family) so finding a ride every time I want to sex a snake is inconvenient for me, and the person who gives me a ride.

Aaron_S
07-05-13, 08:01 PM
You need someone to show you...and then for you to try it in person. It isn't too difficult but good to have an experienced hand so the animal doesn't get injured.

larry.cloyes
07-05-13, 11:37 PM
In my personal opionon I wouldn't do it. There is no reason for it basically if ur not gonna breed right away. Maybe u can in a few years or so. If it does mean that much to u I would find a ride and get it done by a pro. But if I was u I would just pick a gender and call him/her that until breeding time came around. Enjoy your pet and don't risk hurting it for something that foesnt really mean that much in the long run

ErikBush97
07-05-13, 11:57 PM
In my personal opionon I wouldn't do it. There is no reason for it basically if ur not gonna breed right away. Maybe u can in a few years or so. If it does mean that much to u I would find a ride and get it done by a pro. But if I was u I would just pick a gender and call him/her that until breeding time came around. Enjoy your pet and don't risk hurting it for something that foesnt really mean that much in the long run

Idk when Corns hit sexual maturity but that would probably be a bad idea. No offense but you don't see corns around here a lot. Not even in pet stores. So trying to find another corn snake of the opposite gender once he/she is ready to breed would be hell. And IMO knowing the sex of your snake is a really big thing if you plan on breeding lol Again I mean no offense. I am just saying. I won't do it myself but I am surely going to get it done soon. I need to be prepared and I need to know what I am going to need in the future.

SSSSnakes
07-06-13, 12:51 AM
I would wait until you really need to know. Popping is not as reliable as probing. If you pop a male it is definite, but if it pops a female, it maybe a female or you may have done it wrong. Probing is more accurate. But to probe you need to be taught how or you can hurt the snake. I have many people bring snakes to me to be sexed and the breeder had popped them wrong and they turned out to be opposite of what the person wanted. Also it is easier and safer to sex an adult than it is to sex a baby.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 12:58 AM
I would wait until you really need to know. Popping is not as reliable as probing. If you pop a male it is definite, but if it pops a female, it maybe a female or you may have done it wrong. Probing is more accurate. But to probe you need to be taught how or you can hurt the snake. I have many people bring snakes to me to be sexed and the breeder had popped them wrong and they turned out to be opposite of what the person wanted. Also it is easier and safer to sex an adult than it is to sex a baby.

Well he's about three feet so I don't think he's even close to being a baby. I am going to bring him to a place out in Tigard, Oregon. The guys there are really trustworthy IMO and have had a lot of great things said about them. So when I can find a way out there, I will go. I wouldn't mind the two hour bus ride but that'd REALLY stress the little guy out + a car drives smoother, so I'll just keep begging friends who drive ;)

Aaron_S
07-06-13, 07:11 AM
Idk when Corns hit sexual maturity...

You've got a LOT to learn before learning how to sex...

KORBIN5895
07-06-13, 09:14 AM
You've got a LOT to learn before learning how to sex...

This.

You don't even know what size to feed it. You need to slow down and learn the basics of animal husbandry.

Also popping is dangerous on adult snakes.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 02:07 PM
This.

You don't even know what size to feed it. You need to slow down and learn the basics of animal husbandry.

Also popping is dangerous on adult snakes.

Learning the basics of animal husbandry is 30 minutes of research. Same with just about anything I need to know. And I know that popping any snake of any age/size is dangerous.

KORBIN5895
07-06-13, 02:15 PM
Learning the basics of animal husbandry is 30 minutes of research. Same with just about anything I need to know. And I know that popping any snake of any age/size is dangerous.

Really? So why don't you know the husbandry of your corn yet? Why do you keep asking basic questions when a thirty minute search would answer them?

Also popping a hatchling really isn't dangerous.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 02:21 PM
Really? So why don't you know the husbandry of your corn yet? Why do you keep asking basic questions when a thirty minute search would answer them?

Also popping a hatchling really isn't dangerous.

I have been asking questions because the site has been busy lately.
30 minutes of research or a couple minutes for a reply..

Mark Taylor
07-06-13, 02:28 PM
I have been asking questions because the site has been busy lately.
30 minutes of research or a couple minutes for a reply..

How do you know they are right if you don't do your own research :confused:

smy_749
07-06-13, 02:53 PM
Learning the basics of animal husbandry is 30 minutes of research. Same with just about anything I need to know. And I know that popping any snake of any age/size is dangerous.

complete nonsense

Amadeus
07-06-13, 02:54 PM
I could get a caresheet with everything you need to know about husbandry and breeding in 5 minutes and you could read it in 10.

smy_749
07-06-13, 02:57 PM
I could get a caresheet with everything you need to know about husbandry and breeding in 5 minutes and you could read it in 10.

Was referring to the 'same with just about anything I need to know' but could refer to all of it actually. I'd like to see someone become well acquainted with breeding of reptiles in 30 minutes, or even husbandry while we are on the subject. Part of the 'basics of husbandry' is learning signals your snake is telling you that hes not happy, sick, etc. etc.

Care sheets tell you the do's, alot of times they don't tell you the don'ts. There are alot of things you learn with time, experience, trial and error, and stupid mistakes that a 30 minute caresheet won't cover.

Mikoh4792
07-06-13, 03:16 PM
Not only that but it would take longer than 30 minutes to look at other caresheets and articles to make sure they don't contradict eachother, in which case they do, you've got a problem and need to do even more research.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 03:19 PM
Was referring to the 'same with just about anything I need to know' but could refer to all of it actually. I'd like to see someone become well acquainted with breeding of reptiles in 30 minutes, or even husbandry while we are on the subject. Part of the 'basics of husbandry' is learning signals your snake is telling you that hes not happy, sick, etc. etc.

Care sheets tell you the do's, alot of times they don't tell you the don'ts. There are alot of things you learn with time, experience, trial and error, and stupid mistakes that a 30 minute caresheet won't cover.

1. I didn't say I'd learn about breeding in 30 minutes. 2. I can learn a lot about husbandry in 30 minutes. Maybe not everything, but I'd find some useful stuff in that time.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 03:20 PM
Not only that but it would take longer than 30 minutes to look at other caresheets and articles to make sure they don't contradict eachother, in which case they do, you've got a problem and need to do even more research.

Not really. I speed read. Saves a ton of time.

smy_749
07-06-13, 03:23 PM
1. I didn't say I'd learn about breeding in 30 minutes. 2. I can learn a lot about husbandry in 30 minutes. Maybe not everything, but I'd find some useful stuff in that time.

Was referring to Amadeus's comment about breeding, not your comment. Although your comment was equally ....nvm.

The point here is I don't care if you can read the dictionary in 10 minutes, you won't be any kind of expert or even know the basics until you've coupled your reading with experience.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 03:24 PM
Anyways... I am not saying I am going to be a snake expert in 30 minutes... I am saying I can learn enough of the basics to get a snake set up in 30, and then focus on all other stuff.

smy_749
07-06-13, 03:27 PM
Learning the basics of animal husbandry is 30 minutes of research. Same with just about anything I need to know. And I know that popping any snake of any age/size is dangerous.

This is what was said. I agree that you can probably learn what you need to set up your snake in 30 minutes, but thats not what was said. Time to bust out the dictionary

hus·band·ry
/ˈhəzbəndrē/
Noun
The care, cultivation, and breeding of crops and animals.

So its not only the setup bro. Anyways, I get what you meant and no need to start another flame war on this thread. Just keep reading and don't try any experimental husbandry ideas and he will be fine.

Mikoh4792
07-06-13, 03:31 PM
Not really. I speed read. Saves a ton of time.

how many words a minute? If you go too fast you might miss some things. It's better to take thing slows and really take it in, instead of rushing.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 03:42 PM
how many words a minute? If you go too fast you might miss some things. It's better to take thing slows and really take it in, instead of rushing.

I'm not 100%. Yesterday, I read about 30 pages of one of my books in about 10 minutes. And you actually learn more when you speed read. I've taught myself to skip the unneeded words like 'the', 'and', etc. It makes sense I write like this. you get information, but quicker... Your brain has a harder time focusing at a slower pace, because of the way your eyes jump instead of slowly gliding, how you might think it does before focusing on it, and you think about the words previously/currently being read too much. You obtain more when you speed read... It's all scientific, but I won't I get into all that here. Also, I have eidetic memory so I can remember anything I see/read for a while longer than most people. Again... Not getting into all this lol

smy_749
07-06-13, 03:45 PM
I'm not 100%. Yesterday, I read about 30 pages of one of my books in about 10 minutes. And you actually learn more when you speed read. I've taught myself to skip the unneeded words like 'the', 'and', etc. It makes sense I write like this. you get information, but quicker... Your brain has a harder time focusing at a slower pace, because of the way your eyes jump instead of slowly gliding, how you might think it does before focusing on it, and you think about the words previously/currently being read too much. You obtain more when you speed read... It's all scientific, but I won't I get into all that here. Also, I have eidetic memory so I can remember anything I see/read for a while longer than most people. Again... Not getting into all this lol

I have a pretty epic memory, I don't know what its called though hahaha. Anyways, this thread got way off topic.

Moral of the Story: don't rush into learning everything at once, it will come with time.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 03:45 PM
These threads always go so off topic LOL

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 03:49 PM
I have a pretty epic memory, I don't know what its called though hahaha. Anyways, this thread got way off topic.

Moral of the Story: don't rush into learning everything at once, it will come with time.

Are you referring to an eidetic memory? and I know. I am not rushing. I am going at the pace I am comfortable with and I will consult with the people here before tying anything new. As you said... You learn more from time, and experience, than reading online.. And most of you guys have put a lot more time, and have a lot more experience than I do.

desipooh.12
07-06-13, 03:53 PM
Try palpitating.. there's a video on YouTube on how to do it, harmless to your snake
But your snake has to be like a baby ..
Im going to try it since my brb is a baby still

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 05:25 PM
Try palpitating.. there's a video on YouTube on how to do it, harmless to your snake
But your snake has to be like a baby ..
Im going to try it since my brb is a baby still

Unfortunately my snake isn't a baby :/

Aaron_S
07-06-13, 07:10 PM
...And most of you guys have put a lot more time, and have a lot more experience than I do.

I've worked hard for mine. Countless hours reading and learning. I don't freely give it anymore...

Use more than one source.
Read actual books (archaic I know)
Magazine articles...all of it..

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 07:20 PM
I've worked hard for mine. Countless hours reading and learning. I don't freely give it anymore...

Use more than one source.
Read actual books (archaic I know)
Magazine articles...all of it..

Thanks for the tips, man. I'll look into some books on snakes, and try and find some magazines. see what I can learn :)

Amadeus
07-06-13, 07:57 PM
I've worked hard for mine. Countless hours reading and learning. I don't freely give it anymore...


I'm generous so I do.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 09:48 PM
I've worked hard for mine. Countless hours reading and learning. I don't freely give it anymore...

Use more than one source.
Read actual books (archaic I know)
Magazine articles...all of it..

What do you mean "I don't freely give it anymore..."? I don't understand.

Amadeus
07-06-13, 10:17 PM
What do you mean "I don't freely give it anymore..."? I don't understand.

He sometimes refuse to tell people information that he actually worked to find because some people don't take or listen to experienced advice.

ErikBush97
07-06-13, 11:14 PM
He sometimes refuse to tell people information that he actually worked to find because some people don't take or listen to experienced advice.

Oh, I see.

Aaron_S
07-07-13, 07:30 AM
I'm generous so I do.

I will at time be as well.

Like in threads no one has come to answer. Yet, there's a ton of people who say all they do is help and yet I don't see it.