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Mikoh4792
06-29-13, 04:22 AM
I plan on screwing some grapewood to plywood blocks to make them stand at angles for perches. Should I seal the plywood before putting it in? Does plywood have any toxins or chemicals that are bad for the snakes?

smy_749
06-29-13, 07:11 AM
I plan on screwing some grapewood to plywood blocks to make them stand at angles for perches. Should I seal the plywood before putting it in? Does plywood have any toxins or chemicals that are bad for the snakes?

It might rot sitting in moist substrate for long periods of time if you don't seal it

mmarchl23
06-29-13, 08:52 AM
Plywoods are typically pine based so they have the same oils as pine bedding would. And as smy pointed out rot is a real concern. If you do a few coats of sealer or use a concrete waterproofer they should work fine. I have a similar concept in my tokay enclosure (there's pics on here somewhere) and its holding up very well. I used behr brand concrete sealer. Its like 25ish a gallon.

franks
06-29-13, 09:05 AM
You should seal the entire inside of the enclosure (whatever is plywood) with polycrylic.

Mikoh4792
06-29-13, 09:12 AM
I see. Thanks guys, I might not use plywood in that case. Is there any wood that comes in blocks or beams like plywood but are non toxic to snakes?

@Franks

My enclosure is plastic, I was only planning on using a wooden block to screw a grapewood vine onto it.

franks
06-29-13, 09:45 AM
What is the enclosure for? You can probably screw the grape vine right into the sides if you want. The plywood is fine, once its sealed it will present no problems, and even if it were not to be sealed, the way you want to use it should be fine for your snakes health. Pine plywood does not have to oils that pine lumber have, they are dried out. The toxicity that people are referring to is the glue used to keep the plywood together. That small quantities should be fine, but it is always best to seal it.

KORBIN5895
06-29-13, 10:35 AM
Plywood would be completely safe as everything is baked after being assembled. Just seal it to keep it from swelling or rotting.

larry.cloyes
07-05-13, 04:26 PM
I really wouldn't trust plywood at all. when I was a kid my aunt had a python that would actually get splinters and what not from plywood. You can get any solid wood that is really pretty that would be fine, but I would get it untreated. the only problem would be after YEARS of being in humidity it might warp

Mikoh4792
07-05-13, 04:28 PM
I really wouldn't trust plywood at all. when I was a kid my aunt had a python that would actually get splinters and what not from plywood. You can get any solid wood that is really pretty that would be fine, but I would get it untreated. the only problem would be after YEARS of being in humidity it might warp

ohh I see. Well I really know nothing when it comes to wood. What choices of wood are there?

The warping problem shouldn't matter because when the wood goes bad, Ill just make another block to screw my logs and branches on so they will be replaceable.

larry.cloyes
07-05-13, 05:04 PM
ohh I see. Well I really know nothing when it comes to wood. What choices of wood are there?

The warping problem shouldn't matter because when the wood goes bad, Ill just make another block to screw my logs and branches on so they will be replaceable.

How big of a place do you need it to cover?? you can buy planks of just about anything. Oak would probably be the best seeing how it isn't very expensive. or maybe even pine. you can buy like 4X4 blocks or even sheets if that fits ur fancy

Mikoh4792
07-05-13, 05:10 PM
How big of a place do you need it to cover?? you can buy planks of just about anything. Oak would probably be the best seeing how it isn't very expensive. or maybe even pine. you can buy like 4X4 blocks or even sheets if that fits ur fancy

I am looking for small blocks. Probably 1ftx1ft. Isn't pine dangerous for snakes?

mmarchl23
07-05-13, 05:44 PM
I am looking for small blocks. Probably 1ftx1ft. Isn't pine dangerous for snakes?

Pine lumber I would say is a no no. Your best bet would be a hard wood such as oak, or poplar. If you properly seal and water proof them warping should not be a issue. 1'x1' blocks are kind of an odd size. You'd. Be better to buy a board that is say 1"x10"x8' and cut to your desired size. It'll be much more cost effective.

Amadeus
07-05-13, 05:47 PM
Pine lumber I would say is a no no. Your best bet would be a hard wood such as oak, or poplar. If you properly seal and water proof them warping should not be a issue. 1'x1' blocks are kind of an odd size. You'd. Be better to buy a board that is say 1"x10"x8' and cut to your desired size. It'll be much more cost effective.

All the turpines are gone once the plywood is bakes at the lumber mill.

KORBIN5895
07-05-13, 11:39 PM
I really wouldn't trust plywood at all. when I was a kid my aunt had a python that would actually get splinters and what not from plywood. You can get any solid wood that is really pretty that would be fine, but I would get it untreated. the only problem would be after YEARS of being in humidity it might warp

Maybe should should've sealed it Luke we suggested to Mikoh.

mmarchl23
07-06-13, 07:40 AM
All the turpines are gone once the plywood is bakes at the lumber mill.

I said lumber not plywood, they are different... and well quite frankly I don't buy that it is 100% safe. Why chance doing something potentially harmful to your animals?

Just what ever type of wood you end up using be sure the seal it very well. If you do multiple coats of a sealent the wood wil last much longer and any potential ide effects will be prevented.

Amadeus
07-06-13, 09:52 AM
I said lumber not plywood, they are different... and well quite frankly I don't buy that it is 100% safe. Why chance doing something potentially harmful to your animals?

Just what ever type of wood you end up using be sure the seal it very well. If you do multiple coats of a sealent the wood wil last much longer and any potential ide effects will be prevented.

Lumber is also baked. They bake it so it becomes harder and better for use in homes/structures. Less water+strongly bonded fibers= very strong wood.

mmarchl23
07-06-13, 11:41 AM
Lumber is also baked. They bake it so it becomes harder and better for use in homes/structures. Less water+strongly bonded fibers= very strong wood.

Well i dont know what kind of lumber you use, but i have many instances where it is still very damp even sappy. All i am saying is that The individual needs to seal the lumber and IMO it would be best to avoid something POTENTIALLY harmful.

Amadeus
07-06-13, 12:57 PM
Well i dont know what kind of lumber you use, but i have many instances where it is still very damp even sappy. All i am saying is that The individual needs to seal the lumber and IMO it would be best to avoid something POTENTIALLY harmful.

It's not potentially harmful. There is pine wood in your house. Are your snakes harmed. It can be used. There is an irrational fear of using anything pine because there have been instances of sickness from shredded pine/cedar bedding. Where do you get sappy lumber? That's preposterous.

mmarchl23
07-06-13, 02:58 PM
Aight. I give.

OP best of luck! Hope all works for the best!