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mmarchl23
06-24-13, 03:52 PM
So i got this little guy about 2 weeks ago.
He, (not sexed yet, just using the male as a default) is about a foot, foot and a half long.
The enclosure measures 4X2X3 and temps are currently at 75 in the cool end and 95 at his hot spot. The humidity is between 50 and 60. (I'm going to update the two analog instruments this Thursday.

I do have one concern, he ate Friday, and i have yet to notice any defaecate. This is my first snake so i don't know for sure the timing on these things, but would greatly appreciate some input.

Lankyrob
06-24-13, 04:35 PM
You want to bump your humidity up by 10% to ensure good health, in terms of poop the snake sill poop when it needs too, if you feed small prey then there is little to no waste, there is no need to wait for poop before the next ed or anyhting like that.

My three year old bp poops about once a month

mmarchl23
06-24-13, 05:01 PM
Good to hear and thanks for the input. I wasn't overly worried, just wanted to check this was normal.

Edit:
I am correct that he is a Spider morph right?

smy_749
06-24-13, 05:14 PM
Nice enclosure, looks like a normal spider to me, idk if he has anything else going on as I'm not an expert in BP's. Anyways, seems like you've done your homework, and don't worry about the bathroom, it might not be every feed even.

Amadeus
06-24-13, 05:24 PM
You want to bump your humidity up by 10% to ensure good health, in terms of poop the snake sill poop when it needs too, if you feed small prey then there is little to no waste, there is no need to wait for poop before the next ed or anyhting like that.

My three year old bp poops about once a month

70% humidity all the time? preposterous.

Lankyrob
06-26-13, 03:39 AM
70% humidity all the time? preposterous.

He states the humidity is between 50-60, it should be between 60-70, not preposterous at all.

And if you are going to make statement like that you really should quantify them in some way so that the op knows and is informed of the reasons for your disagreement.

Mikoh4792
06-26-13, 04:06 AM
He states the humidity is between 50-60, it should be between 60-70, not preposterous at all.

And if you are going to make statement like that you really should quantify them in some way so that the op knows and is informed of the reasons for your disagreement.

I agree. Explain your argument instead of just leaving an assertion so we know why you think that way. It would help the people who read your post understand where you are coming from.

I keep my ball pythons at 65-70% at all times. They are doing just fine.

mmarchl23
06-26-13, 08:48 AM
Thanks for the feed back everyone! I bumped the humidity up and am keeping it 60-70. SMY, i definitely looked into this very intently before i got him/her. i wanted to avoid any future catastrophes and this forum as a whole was super helpful! much more so than any care sheets i found online. This is so far one of the best web based communities i have belonged to so far!

Edit: Also, this little bugger is certainly a climber, i know they tend not to be but he loves the little tree branch thinger, and typically hides in the brush i have in the back corners over the hide. i may have seen him in the hides a total of 3 times.

Amadeus
06-26-13, 10:41 AM
He states the humidity is between 50-60, it should be between 60-70, not preposterous at all.

And if you are going to make statement like that you really should quantify them in some way so that the op knows and is informed of the reasons for your disagreement.

Sorry, 50-60% is just fine.

My bp has had no problems. In shed it just gets bumbed to around 70% and all is good.

I think it is preposterous to try and keep 70% all the time when the snake needs less, I can't say it will hurt but it is just not needed.

bcr229
06-26-13, 10:56 AM
An easy way to bump up the humidity would be to move the water dish over to the warm side. Just remember to top it off more frequently.

I would also get some small plants and place them in front of the opening for each hide. Those hide styles are fine, they're just way oversized for your little guy right now which may be why he's not using them. BP's like to be in small, tight, dark spaces. You could also clutter up under/inside of them with loosely crumpled newspaper.

I'd remove the light and install a UTH with thermostat, especially if he's a climber and could come into contact with the bottom corner of it from the climbing branch. I know from experience those things get HOT.

sweatshirt
06-26-13, 12:10 PM
Congrats! He's awesome :)

mmarchl23
06-26-13, 12:22 PM
i do have a UTH installed, but it doesnt keep the enclosure warm enough (its the largest size i could find). i do have a guard around the light and he hasnt tried to get at it yet. actually spends his climbing time hanging out at the end over the water bowl. im going to have to try and come up with a more solid climber for him when he gets bigger though. i could replace the current lamp with a deep dome as it has a smaller diameter and would keep the lamp itself off the guard.

Lankyrob
06-26-13, 12:38 PM
Sorry, 50-60% is just fine.

My bp has had no problems. In shed it just gets bumbed to around 70% and all is good.

I think it is preposterous to try and keep 70% all the time when the snake needs less, I can't say it will hurt but it is just not needed.

Who said to KEEP it at 70%?

Amadeus
06-26-13, 12:39 PM
You want to bump your humidity up by 10% to ensure good health, in terms of poop the snake sill poop when it needs too, if you feed small prey then there is little to no waste, there is no need to wait for poop before the next ed or anyhting like that.

My three year old bp poops about once a month

You did.....

Lankyrob
06-26-13, 12:42 PM
You did.....

You obviously seem to like arguing over semantics.

The OP said his humidity is 50-60%, i said bump it up by 10%

50+10=60
60+10=70

Therfore bumping 50-60% by 10%=60-70% NOT "you must keep the snake at 70%."

do you understand or shall i make it more simple for you?

Amadeus
06-26-13, 12:45 PM
You obviously seem to like arguing over semantics.

The OP said his humidity is 50-60%, i said bump it up by 10%

50+10=60
60+10=70

Therfore bumping 50-60% by 10%=60-70% NOT "you must keep the snake at 70%."

do you understand or shall i make it more simple for you?

Obviously you do as well.

Could you dumb it down a bit? I'm having trouble with the complexity of your mathematics.

Lankyrob
06-26-13, 12:48 PM
Obviously you do as well.

Could you dumb it down a bit? I'm having trouble with the complexity of your mathematics.

Why dont you start here Basic mathematics (http://www.basic-mathematics.com/) and come back if you have questions

Amadeus
06-26-13, 02:11 PM
Why dont you start here Basic mathematics (http://www.basic-mathematics.com/) and come back if you have questions

Thanks, I'll look that over and comeback.

Mikoh4792
06-26-13, 11:03 PM
This argument is preposterous.

Instead of debating whether 50-60 or 60-70 is the correct humidity level, why don't we agree that 50-70% is okay. That's what I seem to be getting from a lot of caresheets. I've never had any problems with ball pythons and I've kept them at different humidity levels throughout my life. Right now my BP's are at 65-70% not because I like keeping them at the higher end, but because the rack system holds humidity too well. I don't ever spray the tubs and it stays that high. No problems whatsoever.