Anyone know about anacondas?

[BagnaraSnakes16]

pet anaconda dilema (http://www.edmontonreptiles.com/forum/showthread.php?1478-pet-anaconda-dilema)

I saw this link trying to do research on these beautiful monsters...from what I hear though is they can be more docile then Burmese and retics. Anyone have any info or opinions they'd like to share?!

[Amadeus]

I think more people into giants should keep them. Or at least learn about them.

[marvelfreak]

pet anaconda dilema (http://www.edmontonreptiles.com/forum/showthread.php?1478-pet-anaconda-dilema)

I saw this link trying to do research on these beautiful monsters...from what I hear though is they can be more docile then Burmese and retics. Anyone have any info or opinions they'd like to share?!
Did you noticed the date on that post was 2008?

As for them being more docile the Burmese and Retics i say total BS. I have a three year old Yellow that is totally fine in the cage but freaks out if you take him out. From what i seen and heard from other keepers they just are intrusting and can be very moody. Not to say they all are but most. If you own one it's not if you will get bit but when and how many times. Mine tends to be a repeat biter. he never bites just once but twice some times he even give you a third one.

I got mine at a month old and he will be three next month. Here's a on going thread i update every few months on him.
http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/general-boa-forum/84065-my-yellow-anaconda.html

[BagnaraSnakes16]

I've heard greens can become very docile though. Watching YouTube videos on them one yet to see one strike at the owner

[marvelfreak]

Then you haven't seen this video.
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[BagnaraSnakes16]

Holy **** that made me jump lol

[marvelfreak]

Holy **** that made me jump lol
First time i saw that i jumped so far back i broke the chair i was sitting in.

[BagnaraSnakes16]

That didn't look like an anaconda though lol

[Herpophiliac972]

These are simply fascinating animals in my opinion. I do not know much on captive animals, but I have researched wild ones for many years. The scientific name for the green anaconda is Eunectes murinus. They are found primarily in swamps and flooded forests in South America, especially in the Amazon basin. They eat fish, reptiles, mammals, and even birds. These snakes have been known to take down caimans. There are authenticated reports of them killing humans. Though they can easily kill a man, they are unlikely to be able to consume them (except for children). They can unhinge their jaws to great size, but are unable to get over our shoulders, as they are too wide. It is thought it might be possible if the snake swallowed sideways, however. Considering this, they have few enemies, other than humans, allowing them to usually live out their approximately twenty year lifespan. They grow at an average of sixteen feet five inches, but the record for a snake of this species is twenty six feet and one inch. However, Victorian era explorers claimed to have seen specimens of over sixty feet in length. These claims are highly doubted today, but some see them as possible. The yellow anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), however, only grows from six feet to nine feet in length. Both species bear live young, giving birth to usually around forty at a time. They are primarily aquatic species. This is because of their girth. They are much slower on land, and their weight can actually suffocate them if they are on ground for too long. They are the most closely related species in existence to Titanoboa cerrejonensis, the largest snake to ever have lived. The first fossils were found in a Columbian coal mine in 2009. That specific specimen was about forty-eight feet in length, but the species is thought to have grown up to eight feet in length. It is thought that the reason this is is the higher amount of oxygen that was in the air at the time. Most creatures are directly proportionate to the amount of oxygen in the air. This resulted in giant creatures that dwarf those in existence today. That is a brief overview, but I should be able to answer most questions about wild specimens if anyone has any.

[Amadeus]

That didn't look like an anaconda though lol

It was probably dirty, what other snake would it have been? Retics are skinnier and even dirty you could see the reticulated pattern they are named for.

Also that would be a huuugggeee asssss burm.

[formica]

pet anaconda dilema (http://www.edmontonreptiles.com/forum/showthread.php?1478-pet-anaconda-dilema)

I saw this link trying to do research on these beautiful monsters...from what I hear though is they can be more docile then Burmese and retics. Anyone have any info or opinions they'd like to share?!

I know they can grow big enough to eat an adult aligator, and that they definitely shouldn't be kept by anyone without a huge amount of experience - not even sure they should be kept privately at all tbh, they will eat their owner, their family and their next door neighbours; given even the slightest chance - and once its started constricting, you aint wriggling free

[Mark Taylor]

Holy **** that made me jump lol

First time i saw that i jumped so far back i broke the chair i was sitting in.

I also broke my chair the first time I seen that, then I showed my wife and she broke the replacement chair lol. That video cost me money it should have a warning.

I have been tempted in the past to own a anaconda but due to them being so docile and easy to handle I have decided that they ain't for me :D

[marvelfreak]

That didn't look like an anaconda though lol
If you stop the video at 16 second you can get a good look at the head. I believe it's a Olive or Scrub Python.
But also i have seen some really brown looking greens.

[Amadeus]

If you stop the video at 16 second you can get a good look at the head. I believe it's a Olive or Scrub Python.
But also i have seen some really brown looking greens.

Damn......

[Herpophiliac972]

Is everyone sure this is even real? I am not a hundred percent convinced. This snake looks huge, maybe a little too huge. I am totally open to the possibility of it being real, but I am a little skeptical.

[BagnaraSnakes16]

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

[marvelfreak]

Is everyone sure this is even real? I am not a hundred percent convinced. This snake looks huge, maybe a little too huge. I am totally open to the possibility of it being real, but I am a little skeptical.
It's real but if you look close the are zoomed way in. It not as big as it looks but it is still and good 12 plus foot snake. Olives and Scrubs are both long but slender which can make them appear even longer than say a Burm the same length.

[millertime89]

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

Politics and stupidity.
Matt Martin and Ben Rennick are both breeding greens. Ben has T+ albinos and IIRC he either already has or is about to produce CBB T+ albinos. His adult male is a total **** though, very sketchy animal. Greens can be a bit of a pain to keep in captivity, they love to poop and bite but some can be wonderful to work with. We're only in the early stages of Anaconda keeping and if we can keep the government off our backs for a while I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see well mannered adults just like we did with retics that had a very similar reputation in the early years.

The snake in the video is a very big olive python if I'm not mistaken. The belly coloration is a good indicator as well as the complete lack of pattern and body build.

[marvelfreak]

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

No i won't recommend them to anyone. The main reason once the cool factor wears off and they realize they have a aggressive snake that don't like to be messed with it's too late. Now they don't want it so it goes bye bye. Besides me i only can think of one other person on this site that has gotten one and kept it over a year. These are not Burmese you can take them out when ever you want and show them off. Some snake are meant to be for show not showing off and letting everyone under the sun handle them. Which is what most people like to do with big constrictors.

Most of them tend to be bitey and unpredictable. They are like a big version of a Blood python. I can't count how many times i have seen people showing off their new anaconda just to get rid of it in under a year because they realized they got in over their head. I forever see them for sale or trade on facebook.

[Concept9]

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

Do not get this animal. It will EAT YOU.

A friend of mine had one about 18 years ago, my friend is still missing. :)

[smy_749]

That vid looks like an olive or a huge papuan to me

[Pirarucu]

Agreed, the snake in that video is not an anaconda...

I will say this:
They are certainly not for everyone, you need to be committed and have money to provide a very large cage. That being said, I think that their usual size is very exaggerated, and the only ones that get really huge are the overfed ones. In addition, they do not get huge very fast like a large species of python will, so in that regard I would consider them to be better captives.
At Moody Gardens, the biggest of the three is twenty-eight years old, and is around 14-16 feet, depending on whose estimate you're going by. The smaller two are a few years old and still not over seven feet. The massive anacondas you see are all a lot fatter than they really ought to be, and have been fed far too much.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy75/Agigas/P1030670_zpsa620a40d.jpg

Their temperament is also exaggerated very often, and is not always well deserved, especially with captive bred individuals. That stereotype is often based on wild caught and young animals, to which I can only ask what else is to be expected? Larger anacondas, handled properly, are not very bad, and even juveniles are not if handled properly. I have handled several young "mean" anacondas, and have not been bitten yet. Slow, calm movements and pick them up from beneath. Don't be a predator, and they won't act like prey.

Again, they are most definitely not for everyone, but if you have the resources and knowledge to keep one, then they can be a better choice than some other large constrictors.

[formica]

just a point - the really large ones I've seen where wild caught adults - so dont think really true to say that really large ones are overfed - and they where certainly longer than 14ft - quick scan of google images will clear that point up! they can grow HUGE

[marvelfreak]

I think a lot of owners underfeed them to try and keep them on the smaller side. Which in turn is why they are aggressive because they are always hungry. Which is why most people don't keep them for very long because they don't want a aggressive snake.

[Pirarucu]

just a point - the really large ones I've seen where wild caught adults - so dont think really true to say that really large ones are overfed - and they where certainly longer than 14ft - quick scan of google images will clear that point up! they can grow HUGEOh I certainly am not saying that they cannot grow that big, just that it is not as common as most people seem to think. A twenty foot snake is not a common thing. Can they grow that big? Yes. Do they do it often? No.
It's worth noting that Google is not going to be the best benchmark to set, as especially large snakes will come up more often. Despite that, searching "Green Anaconda" on Google yields mainly pictures of snakes that appear to be 10-15 feet or smaller. A fifteen foot snake is a very large and powerful animal, but it still isn't twenty feet long.

As far as wild-caught adults being big: For starters, if a snake is in an area with an abundance of prey year round (For instance, the Amazon) then of course some individuals may get quite large. However, these animals are again the exceptional ones, not the norm. A twenty foot snake is still a very rare thing. Go out and try to find one, tell me how long it takes..

[Aaron_S]

Oh I certainly am not saying that they cannot grow that big, just that it is not as common as most people seem to think. A twenty foot snake is not a common thing. Can they grow that big? Yes. Do they do it often? No.
It's worth noting that Google is not going to be the best benchmark to set, as especially large snakes will come up more often. Despite that, searching "Green Anaconda" on Google yields mainly pictures of snakes that appear to be 10-15 feet or smaller. A fifteen foot snake is a very large and powerful animal, but it still isn't twenty feet long.

As far as wild-caught adults being big: For starters, if a snake is in an area with an abundance of prey year round (For instance, the Amazon) then of course some individuals may get quite large. However, these animals are again the exceptional ones, not the norm. A twenty foot snake is still a very rare thing. Go out and try to find one, tell me how long it takes..

I agree that the length you're quoting to be correct.

The size though would be more round. Greens are on record as the largest snakes found in the wild. They tend to be more robust. Lots of "wild caughts" on discovery shows over the years.

[Aaron_S]

Politics and stupidity.
Matt Martin and Ben Rennick are both breeding greens. Ben has T+ albinos and IIRC he either already has or is about to produce CBB T+ albinos. His adult male is a total **** though, very sketchy animal. Greens can be a bit of a pain to keep in captivity, they love to poop and bite but some can be wonderful to work with. We're only in the early stages of Anaconda keeping and if we can keep the government off our backs for a while I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see well mannered adults just like we did with retics that had a very similar reputation in the early years.

The snake in the video is a very big olive python if I'm not mistaken. The belly coloration is a good indicator as well as the complete lack of pattern and body build.

I'm not posting to pick on you like I normally do but you're wrong in that there's a lack of a pattern in the video.

If you pause throughout it you can see very faded blotches. I originally thought african rock python but there is a noticeable lack of that pattern. It could be too muddy/dirty to tell along with the sun making the glare off the scales.

The blotches to me do say green anaconda. Does anyone know the location the video was shot in considering that would do most wonders to exclude any species that aren't native to it.

EDIT: After pausing the video at the 17 second mark before the strike denotes a head shape that isn't normal for green anacondas from what I've seen. It does almost look like a retic but it's a bad shot.

[millertime89]

I'm not posting to pick on you like I normally do but you're wrong in that there's a lack of a pattern in the video.

If you pause throughout it you can see very faded blotches. I originally thought african rock python but there is a noticeable lack of that pattern. It could be too muddy/dirty to tell along with the sun making the glare off the scales.

The blotches to me do say green anaconda. Does anyone know the location the video was shot in considering that would do most wonders to exclude any species that aren't native to it.

EDIT: After pausing the video at the 17 second mark before the strike denotes a head shape that isn't normal for green anacondas from what I've seen. It does almost look like a retic but it's a bad shot.

I'm on my netbook, not the best screen for details, especially in crappy youtube videos.

[smy_749]

I'm on my netbook, not the best screen for details, especially in crappy youtube videos.

I did rewatch it after Aaron said there were blotches. I could make out a few, but its hard to tell still. The head really looks like an olive or papuan to me though..And if it was covered in mud would it still show that iridescence?

[moshirimon]

That's definitely not a green conda. Looks like an olive python. Look at the sides, narrow tail, girth to length ratio.

[millertime89]

And if it was covered in mud would it still show that iridescence?

I wouldn't think so.
I see the blotchiness/pattern that you guys are talking about. But that's about it, can't really make out much of anything but even a muddy anaconda I would think would be showing the usually very evident black saddles and the head pattern which doesn't appear to be there.

[Pirarucu]

Not to mention the very obvious lack of yellow/black markings on the sides of the belly.....

[marvelfreak]

Check out how brown this anaconda is.

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[smy_749]

Check out how brown this anaconda is.

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That thing is massive. I love those pics. IMO thought here is a bit more visible pattern even on the really brown pics, especially the dorsal area. Also it looks chunkier than the one in the previous vid, proportions don't match up quite the same. Anyways, who knows, maybe it is a conda.

[marvelfreak]

Just got done checking out a ton of pictures of Olive pythons. I say with out a doubt i think that what the snake in the first video is.

[Robin.M]

I've had a bit of experience with Yellow Anacondas, and I must agree with what Chuck has said about them hating you and everything to do with you. NOT ALL OF THEM, but from the 5 that I have ever handled in my life, I have been bitten by 100% of them. Multiple times each one.

That being said, I own a female Green Anaconda and she is the most docile snake I own. And she is a WC from Trinidad, so it is pretty much unheard of to have a WC that doesn't want to take a bite out of you.

Would I recommend a Green or a Yellow Anaconda to someone as a pet? No. But then again, I wouldn't recommend a Reticulated Python as a pet either, and I have one of them as well.

Owning large species of snakes isn't something that can be recommended like a Corn Snake or a Ball Python. Those are fine snakes to recommend to someone when they want to venture into snake keeping, but recommending the giants is stupid. People wanting to keep giants have been keeping snakes for many years (I hope) and if they were serious about wanting to venture into that territory they wouldn't need any recommendation at all.

If you are interested in keeping an Anaconda I would recommend you find a couple people in your area who own Babies, Sub Adults, and Adults. Get a feel for how the snake is at each one of these stages of its life. Get a feel for what it's like to move a 120 pound Anaconda (MUCH different then moving a Reticulated Python or Burmese Python of the same weight). Anacondas are by far the strongest snake species on the planet, so make sure to respect that before you buy the cute little baby.

Rob

[Concept9]

I've had a bit of experience with Yellow Anacondas, and I must agree with what Chuck has said about them hating you and everything to do with you. NOT ALL OF THEM, but from the 5 that I have ever handled in my life, I have been bitten by 100% of them. Multiple times each one.

That being said, I own a female Green Anaconda and she is the most docile snake I own. And she is a WC from Trinidad, so it is pretty much unheard of to have a WC that doesn't want to take a bite out of you.

Would I recommend a Green or a Yellow Anaconda to someone as a pet? No. But then again, I wouldn't recommend a Reticulated Python as a pet either, and I have one of them as well.

Owning large species of snakes isn't something that can be recommended like a Corn Snake or a Ball Python. Those are fine snakes to recommend to someone when they want to venture into snake keeping, but recommending the giants is stupid. People wanting to keep giants have been keeping snakes for many years (I hope) and if they were serious about wanting to venture into that territory they wouldn't need any recommendation at all.

If you are interested in keeping an Anaconda I would recommend you find a couple people in your area who own Babies, Sub Adults, and Adults. Get a feel for how the snake is at each one of these stages of its life. Get a feel for what it's like to move a 120 pound Anaconda (MUCH different then moving a Reticulated Python or Burmese Python of the same weight). Anacondas are by far the strongest snake species on the planet, so make sure to respect that before you buy the cute little baby.

Rob

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Nods in agreement with fear . . . .

[Corey209]

I've had a bit of experience with Yellow Anacondas, and I must agree with what Chuck has said about them hating you and everything to do with you. NOT ALL OF THEM, but from the 5 that I have ever handled in my life, I have been bitten by 100% of them. Multiple times each one.

That being said, I own a female Green Anaconda and she is the most docile snake I own. And she is a WC from Trinidad, so it is pretty much unheard of to have a WC that doesn't want to take a bite out of you.

Would I recommend a Green or a Yellow Anaconda to someone as a pet? No. But then again, I wouldn't recommend a Reticulated Python as a pet either, and I have one of them as well.

Owning large species of snakes isn't something that can be recommended like a Corn Snake or a Ball Python. Those are fine snakes to recommend to someone when they want to venture into snake keeping, but recommending the giants is stupid. People wanting to keep giants have been keeping snakes for many years (I hope) and if they were serious about wanting to venture into that territory they wouldn't need any recommendation at all.

If you are interested in keeping an Anaconda I would recommend you find a couple people in your area who own Babies, Sub Adults, and Adults. Get a feel for how the snake is at each one of these stages of its life. Get a feel for what it's like to move a 120 pound Anaconda (MUCH different then moving a Reticulated Python or Burmese Python of the same weight). Anacondas are by far the strongest snake species on the planet, so make sure to respect that before you buy the cute little baby.

Rob


My personal experience with owning a green is pretty good. He'll never bite but he does get pissy sometimes and he's not a snake that you can guide where you want him to go, he's going to go where he wants or you'll hear from him. Overall he's a very good snake and I'd definitely recommend one as an intermediate snake.

[BryanB]

My personal experience with owning a green is pretty good. He'll never bite but he does get pissy sometimes and he's not a snake that you can guide where you want him to go, he's going to go where he wants or you'll hear from him. Overall he's a very good snake and I'd definitely recommend one as an intermediate snake.

NEVER say an animal will never bite... i agree with pureboa