Going to college... What do I do with my Ball Python?

[VenomousKiss]

This is probably the most depressing problem I have ever faced. :no:
I'm going to college this fall, and my dorms don't allow pets... I've contacted them several times, but to no avail. They're pretty strict on their policies. I can't trust any of my extended family members with her; she originally belonged to my cousin, but he was abusing her (NEVER cleaned her tank, hit her because she bit him, and he tried to feed her cat food...:mad:). The rest of my family is pretty unconcerned with the welfare of animals, and my parents simply hate her... In fact, I'm pretty sure they were counting on me letting her die when they let me have her, since I was pretty terrified of her for the first few days... but instead I fell in love with her. :p I was looking at finding a job so I could pay for an apartment, but my dad kind of got in the way. He's EXTREMELY strict and thinks I'm going to get murdered on my way to school (ludicrous; I've walked outside really late and nothing happened to me). Plus he thinks I won't go to school if I start working... My mom isn't much better, and I can't really argue against them since they're paying for everything. If I'd gone to my state school, I could have started working and paying for everything myself, but I stupidly decided to go to Mount Holyoke and there's no way I can afford the pricey tuition on my own...

I've read all these horror stories about people who sold their reptiles, and I really don't want to let her go... I've been considering purchasing one of those snake racks so that I could disguise it as clothing shelves, but I'm kind of worried that it won't work. I won't be having a roommate, so it could work, but I'm not sure. What should I do? :(

[smy_749]

Where are you located? If your alone I think you could get away with it, lots of people do it.

[bcr229]

If you're concerned about shipping, check FaceBook for reptile and ball python discussion groups for your local area, and offer her free up there so you can meet the new owner in person.

I have 24 snakes in the house, only one was shipped in (SYR/FedEx). Not sure I want to do it again as the hand-delivered ones settled in within 2-3 days, while the little girl who was shipped acted stressed for about 2 weeks.

[Ourobouros]

Where are you located? If your alone I think you could get away with it, lots of people do it.

I second this motion. I would sneak the snake in. They don't make noise and you could disguise the tank as a table or hide the tank in a cardboard box like it's for storage if they do any inspections.

[sweatshirt]

If you DO sneak the ball python in... MAKE SURE you have a back up, though. In case someone finds it, have someone to send the snake to in an emergency. I doubt they would find it, but just in case.

[Ourobouros]

If you DO sneak the ball python in... MAKE SURE you have a back up, though. In case someone finds it, have someone to send the snake to in an emergency. I doubt they would find it, but just in case.

And make sure any supplies for it you have are concealed in a box or some other container so they don't start getting suspicious

[Aaron_S]

What the hell?

Why are people encouraging others to break rules/policies?

If the school is really strict what if they decide to kick you out along with the snake? How would that affect your education trying to find another place to live on such short notice?

My advice, find another home. You have all summer. Scour the internet and network your local community for a good person.

[KORBIN5895]

What the hell?

Why are people encouraging others to break rules/policies?

If the school is really strict what if they decide to kick you out along with the snake? How would that affect your education trying to find another place to live on such short notice?

My advice, find another home. You have all summer. Scour the internet and network your local community for a good person.

This.

I don't get why people have so little disregard for rules and openly advocating it.

[slowhite03]

Are you here for the feeding?

This is the first thing that came to my mind when reading this thread

[EL Ziggy]

Don't get in trouble at school. Find a good temporary or permanent home for your snake. Maybe you can get her back or get a new pet when you are able to get your own place. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made. Put your education first.

[smy_749]

I had no idea there were so many righteous human beings in these forums. Nobody ever partied in dorms, went to a girls dorm that they weren't supposed to, smoked weed, drank before 21, sped on the highway, cheated on a test, nothing right?

Everyone knows that kids go to college to follow all the rules!
Get off your high horses, you all break the law some how. I wasn't encouraging her to do it, but the same time I highly doubt they will permanently kick her out of the university when they usually just give students who do much worse a slap on the wrist or an F in a course or something.

I guess I'm just a rebel without a cause, I've rolled through a few stop signs in my day.

[Amadeus]

I had no idea there were so many righteous human beings in these forums. Nobody ever partied in dorms, went to a girls dorm that they weren't supposed to, smoked weed, drank before 21, sped on the highway, cheated on a test, nothing right?

Everyone knows that kids go to college to follow all the rules!
Get off your high horses, you all break the law some how. I wasn't encouraging her to do it, but the same time I highly doubt they will permanently kick her out of the university when they usually just give students who do much worse a slap on the wrist or an F in a course or something.

I guess I'm just a rebel without a cause, I've rolled through a few stop signs in my day.

I almost pissed my pant lolol

rolled through a few stop signs....

[Aaron_S]

I had no idea there were so many righteous human beings in these forums. Nobody ever partied in dorms, went to a girls dorm that they weren't supposed to, smoked weed, drank before 21, sped on the highway, cheated on a test, nothing right?

Everyone knows that kids go to college to follow all the rules!
Get off your high horses, you all break the law some how. I wasn't encouraging her to do it, but the same time I highly doubt they will permanently kick her out of the university when they usually just give students who do much worse a slap on the wrist or an F in a course or something.

I guess I'm just a rebel without a cause, I've rolled through a few stop signs in my day.

Not all kids have daddy's money or business to fall back on.

This isn't about a high horse it's about someone's future. Education is paramount and I don't see how an "F" is any less serious than being kicked out. It would surely drop the GPA and may lose someone their funding to stay in school. Way to go! Your analogy has someone dropping out of school instead of being kicked out of a dorm. A+ to you.

[sweatshirt]

It's true though that maybe OP shouldn't risk her education.
This thread has me thinking what I'll do when I go to college. I know she'd be safe with either of my parents but they'd never hold her.

[Aaron_S]

It's true though that maybe OP shouldn't risk her education.
This thread has me thinking what I'll do when I go to college. I know she'd be safe with either of my parents but they'd never hold her.

1. You can live off campus.

2. I don't know the personal school or policies but depending on the day the "manager/supervisor/RA" or whomever is having could decide the person's future there.

[KORBIN5895]

I had no idea there were so many righteous human beings in these forums. Nobody ever partied in dorms, went to a girls dorm that they weren't supposed to, smoked weed, drank before 21, sped on the highway, cheated on a test, nothing right?

Everyone knows that kids go to college to follow all the rules!
Get off your high horses, you all break the law some how. I wasn't encouraging her to do it, but the same time I highly doubt they will permanently kick her out of the university when they usually just give students who do much worse a slap on the wrist or an F in a course or something.

I guess I'm just a rebel without a cause, I've rolled through a few stop signs in my day.

I don't have an issue with kids pushing the rules and breaking them but I do have a issue with adults encouraging a kid to break the rules. Kids get enough peer pressure without adults acting like idiots and possibly jeopardizing the kids future.

[sweatshirt]

Eh... I need to research on college more :/

[KORBIN5895]

Not all kids have daddy's money or business to fall back on.

This isn't about a high horse it's about someone's future. Education is paramount and I don't see how an "F" is any less serious than being kicked out. It would surely drop the GPA and may lose someone their funding to stay in school. Way to go! Your analogy has someone dropping out of school instead of being kicked out of a dorm. A+ to you.

This.

I always planned on falling back on my uncle's business if life got too hard. I actually did well in college but I failed an absolutely ridiculous class ( They took five assignments to determine my final grade and I didn't do one they ended up choosing.) and I wasn't comfortable with major so I never got a degree. I then moved to a different country and I am up that brown stream without a paddle. Therefore I think education is very important.

[smy_749]

If you get an F you can retake it and replace the old grade in most universities.
And you missed my point. I don't drink or smoke and commuted 5 days a week 2 hours driving everyday. I didn't even go through the college 'experience'. My point is, if she is anything NEAR a normal college student, shes going to be doing alot stupider, more risky things, than having a ball python in her room. And if they do 'catch her' with it, they will probably just say get rid of it and forget about it. They won't throw away your education because you wanted to have a little pet. They just have the policy so every dorm doesn't turn into a zoo. As for encouraging her, I didn't say she should do it. I said plenty of kids do it, and they don't get caught so she would probably have nothing to worry about IF she chose that route.

If you've ever studied engineering, you'd know that an F is not the equivalent of dropping out, at all. The average engineer at my school had a 2.3 or 2.5 gpa....and that was fine, they all got jobs and lived happily ever after. My close friend had a 2.0, and he makes 90g's a year at Boeing so.....

Oh, and lastly, the F thing was about if your caught cheating in a course. I don't see how a ball python would cause you to cheat and receive an F in a course....

Oh, and I was a mechanical engineer for 2 years, and got 3 F's because I never showed up to class. I switched to molecular and cell bio and I have a 3.4 and I never replaced the F's...Its not the end of the world.

[bcr229]

Here's the problem that goes beyond just "breaking the rules": if OP does take the snake to school with her and it's discovered, she likely will be given a very short time to dispose of it before being evicted from the dorm, assuming the university doesn't call Animal Control immediately to deal with it. The likelihood of her pet getting a soft landing at that point is nil. At least if the OP starts looking now she has a better chance of placing this girl into a good home. Heck, it's an adult normal female BP, a local breeder may just snatch her up.

I don't doubt that I broke some rules on my way to work this morning, but the consequences of that would fall solely on me and no one else. Breaking rules where other people or animals could get hurt is a no-no.

[Lankyrob]

Forget about hreaking the rules, theat isnt a good way to start the next stage of your life. Tell us where you are and someone on here may be able to board the snake for you iuntil you finish college or suggest othre options for you.

There are plenty of options that dont involve lying on your first day.

[Concept9]

Just send the snake to me. :)

Problem solved.

[Lupinus]

Hit up local boards or FB groups. See if any friends not going to college want it. Heck, put an add on Craigslist if all else fails.

It'll be better than being told to get rid of the snake NOW, or getting kicked out on your behind. Only other option is if your school allows off campus living for freshman don't live in the dorm. And then you have a land lord that has to be OK with it.

[thomas1123]

Hey there, sorry about your situation. But I just finished my freshman year of college and honestly youll be fine with it. You just have to be smart about what you do. You could get the snake rack and put it under your bed disguised as a clothes rack like you said. The RA's are NOT allowed to go through your belongings or and of your things. When they did room checks at my school they come in and look to see if you room is clean and that is about it. At my school we only had 2 room checks the whole time I stayed there. People had hamsters and other reptiles that they just hid. Idk how much different your school is from mine but usually RA's are students and they usually dont care because they ave their own thing to do. Oh and also even if theu do somehow find out you have a snake you they usually give you like 2 days to get rid of It so I would just take it to a friends room from those two days after room check bring it back.

[Ourobouros]

College tuition is a gateway to destitution unless your getting a free ride. Sounds like you are but just in case... It's a common misconception that you HAVE to go to some big fancy college to be successful. I did just that and it's almost ruined my life. I could have a house now full of snakes if I just knew how screwed up the system really was to begin with....

[Mark Taylor]

If it was me..

I would try to find someone that will look after the snake properly (Reputable breeder or collector).
Come to some sort of agreement that you pay all expenses for your snake plus some for time cleaning etc. And have access too, so you can get to see your snake live a happy healthy life while you are away.
When you finish your education you still own your snake:)

If you are unable to find that person I would sell to someone who has experience and wish it all the best.

[Chu'Wuti]

Keep in mind that different universities have different policies and different disciplinary actions for violations. While one school's RAs may not be allowed to do room checks, another school's RAs may do them.

At some schools, freshmen are not allowed to live off campus.

Many people have advocated breaking the rules, but I encourage you to consider the possible consequences and how they might affect both your future and your snake's future. Are you willing to accept any possible consequences that might occur? Instead of thinking, "It'll never happen to me," consider carefully, "What if it DOES happen? What will I do then if I'm [kicked out of the dorms/lose my snake permanently/have to pay a huge fine/????]?"

You might check your local herp society, or find out whether there is a herp society near the school you plan to attend, and ask whether they have a member who might be willing to foster your BP. You might also contact the zoology/biology department there to ask if there is anyone who might be able to help you. Someone might be willing to allow you to move your BP into the corner of a classroom. Another possibility might be to check with a highschool or middle school science teacher in the area--would one of them welcome a BP living in their classroom if you went and fed and cleaned each week?

These are just some possibilities off the top of my head. I hope you figure out something that feels comfortable and workable for you and your snake!

[Terranaut]

Wow I just read all of this and most of you are over reacting to each others comments big time!!!
Honestly unless you would trade a house for this snake just rehome it to someone who you think will take good care of it. Go to school and get another after. How hard is this to figure out? Seriously, I love my snakes but I would turff them in a heartbeat if the rest of my life depended on it.
To the Op....you already know what you must do, stop looking to have your mind changed and do it. You will not spend eternity rotting in hell for giving your snake a new home. If your giving it away you should have little trouble finding it a home. Now get your life on track and your future the direction it needs.

[Mark Taylor]

Wow I just read all of this and most of you are over reacting to each others comments big time!!!
Honestly unless you would trade a house for this snake just rehome it to someone who you think will take good care of it. Go to school and get another after. How hard is this to figure out? Seriously, I love my snakes but I would turff them in a heartbeat if the rest of my life depended on it.
To the Op....you already know what you must do, stop looking to have your mind changed and do it. You will not spend eternity rotting in hell for giving your snake a new home. If your giving it away you should have little trouble finding it a home. Now get your life on track and your future the direction it needs.

Amen :laugh:

[Ourobouros]

I guess I'm just a rule breaker and wouldn't care if the rule said I couldn't have a snake. I already know some here think suggestions similar to mine are going to be considered a bad influence or just reckless but it's really not a big issue. A dog or a cat is a different story but snakes are easy to hide. Whatever... College sucks... Graduated and now no jobs in my field... Student loan debt exceeds credit card debt now and everyone lied to me about how it works.. Screw the system. I'm bitter and I know it. One of my admitted faults. Oh well. In the end it's gonna fall down to what kind of person the OP is... And what goals in life the OP has.

[Aaron_S]

I guess I'm just a rule breaker and wouldn't care if the rule said I couldn't have a snake. I already know some here think suggestions similar to mine are going to be considered a bad influence or just reckless but it's really not a big issue. A dog or a cat is a different story but snakes are easy to hide. Whatever... College sucks... Graduated and now no jobs in my field... Student loan debt exceeds credit card debt now and everyone lied to me about how it works.. Screw the system. I'm bitter and I know it. One of my admitted faults. Oh well. In the end it's gonna fall down to what kind of person the OP is... And what goals in life the OP has.

And that kind of attitude is what puts our hobby in jeopardy with law makers.

[smy_749]

And that kind of attitude is what puts our hobby in jeopardy with law makers.

This is probably the only reason I wouldn't keep a snake when I wasn't supposed to.

[Ourobouros]

Lawmakers can suck it

[smy_749]

Lawmakers can suck it

:no: We don't need any more snake bans really...

[Ourobouros]

Seriously, though.. Laws have been improving our favor because the ridiculous restrictions are pissing people off. For the longest time renter's or home owners insurance wouldn't allow for snakes but they do now...

[Ourobouros]

:no: We don't need any more snake bans really...

Aren't most bans based on the fact that the species are having problems or some other trade related issues?

[Amadeus]

Lawmakers can suck it

Agreed.
All said lawmakers do anymore is take away personal freedoms...

An example is the imposing ban of burms in may places in the US.

[smy_749]

It doesn't matter what the 'source' of current bans are. If people are keeping big snakes where they aren't supposed to, and something bad or stupid happens, or people panic for nothing and it gets all over the news, etc. etc. its all bad publicity so when they do have a source or reason to ban, this is just more icing on the cake.

[Ourobouros]

And that kind of attitude is what puts our hobby in jeopardy with law makers.

Only if you do it wrong. Rules were implemented because people's snakes got out one too many times, thus flustering the herds of snake-fearing cowards

It's like those people abusing allergy meds..we all suffer because someone screwed up.
A better society would just punish the individuals not everyone. Oh well forget it

[smy_749]

If you don't like laws and restrictions, I suggest you move to the congo or somalia or something and see how much you like it. Or if you know of a country which has all the laws you enjoy, and none of the restrictions you hate, let me know what the name of it is. Unicorn land isn't accepted as an answer.

[Amadeus]

With time I can only foresee that most large constrictors will be banned. Just like guns...

Goddammit

[Ourobouros]

With time I can only foresee that most large constrictors will be banned. Just like guns...

Goddammit

If guns are banned... I will move to Switzerland...

[Amadeus]

If guns are banned... I will move to Switzerland...

Ich leibe der Schweiz ;)

[Ourobouros]

If you don't like laws and restrictions, I suggest you move to the congo or somalia or something and see how much you like it. Or if you know of a country which has all the laws you enjoy, and none of the restrictions you hate, let me know what the name of it is. Unicorn land isn't accepted as an answer.

No place is perfect, except my mind. Sorry. Unicorn land will have to do until society stops rewarding incompetence. And believe me I doubt that will ever happen...

Idiocracy is our destiny lol

[Ourobouros]

Ich leibe der Schweiz ;)

Me too =3

Meeeeeeep

[franks]

I had no idea there were so many righteous human beings in these forums. Nobody ever partied in dorms, went to a girls dorm that they weren't supposed to, smoked weed, drank before 21, sped on the highway, cheated on a test, nothing right?

I did 5 of 6 of those things in my one semester at college. So... I got 17% on your righteous test.

[Starbuck]

The OP isn't attending university in Unicorn Land, but in a place that doesnt allow snakes.

OP: see if your school has a herpetology club/something similar. Maybe one of the upperclassmen living off campus would be willing to house your snake for the first year or so. If your university isn't very far away, you could make it a commitment to get home every two weeks (minimum) to feed your snake, as long as your parents will keep an eye on humidity/temperature.

Rehoming is NOT a bad option, and may be worth considering. If so, i'd start looking for responsible takers now, so you have time to stay updated before school starts.

[smy_749]

Unicorn land only has community college anyways

[Aaron_S]

Only if you do it wrong. Rules were implemented because people's snakes got out one too many times, thus flustering the herds of snake-fearing cowards

It's like those people abusing allergy meds..we all suffer because someone screwed up.
A better society would just punish the individuals not everyone. Oh well forget it

This society is the one you currently live in. Don't like? You can leave.

To the "lawmakers can suck it" comment, all I have to say is you clearly have a problem with "the man" or the "system" and you also clearly don't know how to play the "system" or "the man" to your advantage. When you grow up, maybe you will.

[Lickeypie]

I had no idea there were so many righteous human beings in these forums. Nobody ever partied in dorms, went to a girls dorm that they weren't supposed to, smoked weed, drank before 21, sped on the highway, cheated on a test, nothing right?

Everyone knows that kids go to college to follow all the rules!
Get off your high horses, you all break the law some how. I wasn't encouraging her to do it, but the same time I highly doubt they will permanently kick her out of the university when they usually just give students who do much worse a slap on the wrist or an F in a course or something.

I guess I'm just a rebel without a cause, I've rolled through a few stop signs in my day.

I agree with you. College students do much worse than sneaking a bp into a dorm room. I had my leopard gecko with me all last semester. And I've kept hamsters with me in my dorm rooms my whole college career.

I'm not saying that you should sneak him, I'm just saying that it is possible.

[Ourobouros]

This society is the one you currently live in. Don't like? You can leave.

To the "lawmakers can suck it" comment, all I have to say is you clearly have a problem with "the man" or the "system" and you also clearly don't know how to play the "system" or "the man" to your advantage. When you grow up, maybe you will.

Oh I would if I could

[KORBIN5895]

Lawmakers can suck it



Aren't most bans based on the fact that the species are having problems or some other trade related issues?

Wow! Rebelliousness coupled with ignorance? Who would've thought? You really need to rethink your life. As it seems really sad and depressing. I think a good psychiatrist could help you.

[Amadeus]

Wow! Rebelliousness coupled with ignorance? Who would've thought? You really need to rethink your life. As it seems really sad and depressing. I think a good psychiatrist could help you.

Speak for yourself.....

[marvelfreak]

WOW your all missing the obvious answer to the problem. All you have to do is cook the snake and eat it. You get a nice taste meal and your snake can stay with you. Well until you crap it out. lol
















I know this sound stupid and immature but hey so doesn't this whole thread.

[Amadeus]

WOW your all missing the obvious answer to the problem. All you have to do is cook the snake and eat it. You get a nice taste meal and your snake can stay with you. Well until you crap it out. lol
















I know this sound stupid and immature but hey so doesn't this whole thread.

Actually this was just as entertaining as the thread in general.

[Aaron_S]

WOW your all missing the obvious answer to the problem. All you have to do is cook the snake and eat it. You get a nice taste meal and your snake can stay with you. Well until you crap it out. lol
















I know this sound stupid and immature but hey so doesn't this whole thread.

As always, wise words from Vader.

[KORBIN5895]

Speak for yourself.....

I am neither rebellious or ignorant so it doesn't really apply to me. I also was studying to be a psychologist so I think I got myself handled.

[Terranaut]

There is only 2 obvious things going on here.
1) read my previous post and do it.
2) everyone else stop trying to display your "coolness" and take this thread into some "cooler than you" contest.
Lets just try to let the op know loosing the snake to a good home is not a sad option because the snake will be fine and school is to important to muck with vicariously through other people. Stop telling this person what you would do and support them to do the right thing. What happens over thenext 5years for the op will determine the rest of their life . Why even risk giving bad advice based on poor judgements and having a good time? Go to school. Get your degree. Then worry about having snakes.
Again this is so cut and dry. All other argument is null and void.

[franks]

There is only 2 obvious things going on here.
1) read my previous post and do it.
2) everyone else stop trying to display your "coolness" and take this thread into some "cooler than you" contest.
Lets just try to let the op know loosing the snake to a good home is not a sad option because the snake will be fine and school is to important to muck with vicariously through other people. Stop telling this person what you would do and support them to do the right thing. What happens over thenext 5years for the op will determine the rest of their life . Why even risk giving bad advice based on poor judgements and having a good time? Go to school. Get your degree. Then worry about having snakes.
Again this is so cut and dry. All other argument is null and void.

Well said Terra

[Ourobouros]

The right thing cannot be determined by anyone here other than the OP. Having options is one thing and in the end there may be other factors present we cannot take into account. It's better to have more choices to think about as opposed to having morality dictated towards someone. It's all subjective.

[Ourobouros]

I am neither rebellious or ignorant so it doesn't really apply to me. I also was studying to be a psychologist so I think I got myself handled.

No one expects you to admit your own faults. It's okay. =D

[possum]

If it was me..

I would try to find someone that will look after the snake properly (Reputable breeder or collector).
Come to some sort of agreement that you pay all expenses for your snake plus some for time cleaning etc. And have access too, so you can get to see your snake live a happy healthy life while you are away.
When you finish your education you still own your snake:)

If you are unable to find that person I would sell to someone who has experience and wish it all the best.

Good advice, IMO. You might also check with any veterinary clinics in the area...some vet techs might welcome some reptile experience without charging you an arm & a leg. Just to be safe, if you decide to "board" your snake with someone & intend to get it back or be able to visit in the meantime, be sure to make it a written agreement. Reputable people will understand. Also check with nearby zoo's (not that a zoo wants a BP, but a staff member might?) or herpetological societies in the area? Same goes if you just decide to rehome it.

I would not advise sneaking it into the dorm though... remember your pet needs proper conditions and cages set up incorrectly can & have started fires. You could face ALL kinds of penalties (including financial responsibility!) if that were to happen, not to mention the ugly death of your pet.

Also, most dorms (& apartments for that matter) routinely spray to kill bugs...if pets aren't supposed to be there, it's just tough luck if it dies as a result. (that happened to me when I was in college & had a hamster that wasn't supposed to be there...someone in the bldg. had a cat, & before you knew it the entire bldg. needed fumigated for cat fleas...there was no warning...I came home to a dead hamster & no apologies.)

Best of luck!

[Ourobouros]

I wish I lived closer to the OP because I'd be happy to board it if it's expenses were paid. :'(

My apartment actually let's me have snakes....

[Terranaut]

The right thing cannot be determined by anyone here other than the OP. Having options is one thing and in the end there may be other factors present we cannot take into account. It's better to have more choices to think about as opposed to having morality dictated towards someone. It's all subjective.

Common sense is not subjective. Again you desire for choice isbased on your youth . Experience in life is the key here. School is everything at this stage. Again argument is null and void.

[Ourobouros]

Common sense is not subjective. Again you desire for choice isbased on your youth . Experience in life is the key here. School is everything at this stage. Again argument is null and void.

I have plenty of experience on the subject at hand =D
College wise I mean

[Terranaut]

I have plenty of experience on the subject at hand =D
College wise I mean

It's post college I feel your opinion lacks in. Sorry. Not meaning to offend.

[KORBIN5895]

Common sense is not subjective. Again you desire for choice isbased on your youth . Experience in life is the key here. School is everything at this stage. Again argument is null and void.

His arguing is showing how immature and foolish he still is.

@Ourobouros

I actually admit my mistakes and faults quite often but you are still a little wet behind the ears to understand or see that.

[Terranaut]

Also the subject at hand is not college it's responsibility.

[possum]

Perhaps the New England Herpetological Society might be of help to the OP??? New England Herpetological Society (http://www.neherp.com)

[StudentoReptile]

To the OP: do what you feel is best and ignore this thread.

[smy_749]

I live 30 minutes from mount holyoke college, I asked the OP where she was from orginally but she never answered.

[bcr229]

I live 30 minutes from mount holyoke college, I asked the OP where she was from orginally but she never answered.
Women tend not to respond to that kind of a question from strange dudes online. Not that you're strange or anything... ;)

[smy_749]

Women tend not to respond to that kind of a question from strange dudes online. Not that you're strange or anything... ;)

Lolll didn't cross my mind, good point.

[Ourobouros]

His arguing is showing how immature and foolish he still is.

@Ourobouros

I actually admit my mistakes and faults quite often but you are still a little wet behind the ears to understand or see that.

I guess we need to troll each other a little longer eh?

[Ourobouros]

Also the subject at hand is not college it's responsibility.

My fault is, in hindsight, should have researched the legalities of student loans before rushing into college along with my worthless friend. Sorry to deviate. Just feel I have to warn people anytime I have the chance, although it has nothing to do with the OP's question. My apologies....

[rocknhorse76]

I live 30 minutes from mount holyoke college, I asked the OP where she was from orginally but she never answered.

smy, write her a PM explaining where you live, and perhaps you could help her out.

[rmfsnakes32]

If you pay for shipping I will house your BP till u can move of campus pm me and we can work out details I have plenty of rack space

[KORBIN5895]

I guess we need to troll each other a little longer eh?

Of course we do....

If you pay for shipping I will house your BP till u can move of campus pm me and we can work out details I have plenty of rack space

Please do not accept this offer. I will leave it at that.

[smy_749]

She hasn't responded back to this thread, so I doubt she will respond back to a PM. If shes rehoming him I'd rather not take him, because I'm limited atm with how many snakes I can afford to keep and I don't like balls. If she just would like someone to watch him for during semesters and she takes him back during vacations she can let me know.

[Chu'Wuti]

The sad thing about this thread, and so many others on this forum nowadays, is that the voices of those of us who actually posted serious answers to the OP are lost in the babble of those who just want to spout off.

There are some good suggestions here; you just have to find them amongst the silliness.